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Everyone knows the story of Moses. His rise in egyptian culture, the Exodus from Egypt, etc.

He climbed the mountain alone and came back with the Ten Commandments of which most are familiar with. But, here's something interesting to consider....

Moses, being brought up into adulthood by Pharoah would have surely been educated in the written language of the time and would have been well informed in Egyptian cuture, and the Book of The Dead with all it's philosophies and laws.

That being said. (and obviously His education would be accurate) Here's a copy of the 42 negative confessions in the Book of The Dead....


Hail, Usekh-nemmt, who comest forth from Anu, I have not committed sin.
Hail, Hept-khet, who comest forth from Kher-aha, I have not committed robbery with violence.
Hail, Fenti, who comest forth from Khemenu, I have not stolen.
Hail, Am-khaibit, who comest forth from Qernet, I have not slain men and women.
Hail, Neha-her, who comest forth from Rasta, I have not stolen grain.
Hail, Ruruti, who comest forth from heaven, I have not purloined offerings.
Hail, Arfi-em-khet, who comest forth from Suat, I have not stolen the property of God.
Hail, Neba, who comest and goest, I have not uttered lies.
Hail, Set-qesu, who comest forth from Hensu, I have not carried away food.
Hail, Utu-nesert, who comest forth from Het-ka-Ptah, I have not uttered curses.
Hail, Qerrti, who comest forth from Amentet, I have not committed adultery, I have not lain with men.
Hail, Her-f-ha-f, who comest forth from thy cavern, I have made none to weep.
Hail, Basti, who comest forth from Bast, I have not eaten the heart.
Hail, Ta-retiu, who comest forth from the night, I have not attacked any man.
Hail, Unem-snef, who comest forth from the execution chamber, I am not a man of deceit.
Hail, Unem-besek, who comest forth from Mabit, I have not stolen cultivated land.
Hail, Neb-Maat, who comest forth from Maati, I have not been an eavesdropper.
Hail, Tenemiu, who comest forth from Bast, I have not slandered [no man].
Hail, Sertiu, who comest forth from Anu, I have not been angry without just cause.
Hail, Tutu, who comest forth from Ati, I have not debauched the wife of any man.
Hail, Uamenti, who comest forth from the Khebt chamber, I have not debauched the wife of [any] man.
Hail, Maa-antuf, who comest forth from Per-Menu, I have not polluted myself.
Hail, Her-uru, who comest forth from Nehatu, I have terrorized none.
Hail, Khemiu, who comest forth from Kaui, I have not transgressed [the law].
Hail, Shet-kheru, who comest forth from Urit, I have not been wroth.
Hail, Nekhenu, who comest forth from Heqat, I have not shut my ears to the words of truth.
Hail, Kenemti, who comest forth from Kenmet, I have not blasphemed.
Hail, An-hetep-f, who comest forth from Sau, I am not a man of violence.
Hail, Sera-kheru, who comest forth from Unaset, I have not been a stirrer up of strife.
Hail, Neb-heru, who comest forth from Netchfet, I have not acted with undue haste.
Hail, Sekhriu, who comest forth from Uten, I have not pried into matters.
Hail, Neb-abui, who comest forth from Sauti, I have not multiplied my words in speaking.
Hail, Nefer-Tem, who comest forth from Het-ka-Ptah, I have wronged none, I have done no evil.
Hail, Tem-Sepu, who comest forth from Tetu, I have not worked witchcraft against the king.
Hail, Ari-em-ab-f, who comest forth from Tebu, I have never stopped [the flow of] water.
Hail, Ahi, who comest forth from Nu, I have never raised my voice.
Hail, Uatch-rekhit, who comest forth from Sau, I have not cursed God.
Hail, Neheb-ka, who comest forth from thy cavern, I have not acted with arrogance.

Continued...

Hail, Neheb-nefert, who comest forth from thy cavern, I have not stolen the bread of the gods.
Hail, Tcheser-tep, who comest forth from the shrine, I have not carried away the khenfu cakes from the Spirits of the dead.
Hail, An-af, who comest forth from Maati, I have not snatched away the bread of the child, nor treated with contempt the god of my city.
Hail, Hetch-abhu, who comest forth from Ta-she, I have not slain the cattle belonging to the god.

So, did Moses climb the Mountain and compile his own commandments by plagurizing the 42 confessions, compress them into ten, and say they were given to him by God, and presenting them to the illiterate masses to make them follow what he wanted them to do?

Was Moses a cult leader? And how many other ideas were plagurized into the most published book in history?

Just as an observation, if you do have enough research and material (costly investment), you do not have to dig into the translations for long so see that much of hte biblical Old Testament can be viewed as an edited rewrite of Sumerian stories. For instance, The tablets talk of how King Sargon was floated on a river in a basket of rushes...the Bible tells this same story of Moses.

Interestingly, many of the terms translated into the English version of the Old Testaments as "God" come from words that actually means gods, plural, and the Sumerians said the founder of their civilization were a race of beings that came to this planet from elsewhere in the heavens (universe) bringing great knowledge and technology...which built Atlantis. And some of that knowledge was carried on to Egypt after the great flood.

That's all I got for now. Not asking anyone to accept it, just making an observation pertaining to this thread. Not saying this is my truth, but it is documented, or what was left of it.

hahaha like I just read alll that - - K actually just got hone anf jusy left my che3zh friends - what a great day - its been levelly dancing with people whim language doesnt matter to - hey n what the heck - its may day too..................................

chuckleisciousnessness - thaats got to be one of the drunkest things i heard in ages

woo hoo - is somebody wanting to speak in the abstract lets go there hahahahhahah

I've studied other religions as a hobby for years. It's a very interesting topic for me.

The Sumerians called ther gods the "Annunaki", or "Those from heaven to earth did come." According to Sumerian legend, the Annunaki were the creators. And they created MAN. Wanna know what his name was? A-dom!!!

And this is written on stone tablets and cylander seals thousands of years BEFORE the Biblical account of Genesis. I believe the Bible is a plagurized account taken from MANY ancient Pagan religions.

The Bible God offers eternal life in heaven for all those who believe and worship him. And people believe that to be FACT. But, Osirus, the Egyptian God offered the same to his followers, so did Demeter. In fact, when ancient writers tell us that in general ancient people believed in eternal life, with the good going to the Elysian Fields and the not so good going to Hades. Yet, these have been passed off as myth to modern man.

Jesus Christ is described as the son of God, born of a mortal woman. And according to prophesy, turned water into wine, raised girls from the dead, Healed a blind man with "his spittle", and set it all up for believers to get into heaven, but those who misbehave are on their way to Hades. This, too is believed to be fact according to Bible believers.

So why is it that when we read a story about Vespatian healing a blind man with his "spittle", we see it as a myth?

Apollonius of Tyana raised a girl from the dead, but that is a myth. Pythia, the priestess at the Oricle at Delphi (Greece) prophesied for a thousand years and the prophesies came true--myth. Dionysus turned water into wine, and his followers were filled with "atay", the Spirit of God,--myth. Romulus, Son of God, born of a virgin--myth. Alexander the Great, Son of God, born of a mortal woman--myth. Agustus, Son of God, born of mortal woman--myth.

How is Jesus "fact" when he came thousands of years after all the others?

Hiya Trish....

It's not a myth. Just the same story of advice told over and over again. There is eternal life. Our energy never dies. I'm not talking about the abstract heaven that is painted up in the Judeo-Christianity-Muslim religions. I'm talking about going back to the source and coming back again to experience something to evolve our karma or too just experience the earthly ways. The info was construed a bit, but the message is coming back today in the sexy clear.....

Sure it's myth. They teach you in school that Egyptian Gods were mythology. Zeus was Mythological, etc.

But Biblical stories are accepted as fact by so many. The thread is pointing out how the Bible borrowed ideas from paganism, not energies, karma, reincarnation, or the like. Just the fact that the Bible is NOT origional in any way.

Uhm, you missed my point. Also, I would like to point out that Paganism speaks a great deal about energies and karma....in their own way. Just like any other mythology/religion. History is the lie commonly agreed upon, so we do agree as to some of the prescribed nonsense that is taught to us.

The biblical stories do have some truth in it. It depends how deep in the rabbit hole you are dwelling in, and how you can connect it to the alternate history that has been hidden from us.

Actually you are almost correct. Paganism has never been a religion. It has simply always been the use of energies as well as the earth in order to create. Nothing more and nothing less.

The religious uprisings had turned Paganism into devil worshipping hence the reason that it was underground for so many years and never spoken of.

good point serenity
theres a few here that arent here at the moment
that are pretty versed on paganism

anyway i just wanted to mention how many times
ive been ridiculed about the length of my posts
and being so many things
this post is...

i think maybe whats good for the goose is also
alright for other people too

By definition......

Definitions of paganism on the Web:

1. any of various religions other than Christianity or Judaism or Islamism

Thank you

I am also extremely versed in/on Paganism, I wish we could bring up old threads. I've done a few of them and participated in a few as well.

Don't worry about people getting their panties in a bunch over how much you post or thength of your posts...It's all rubbish.

Well that definition is actually in acurate and incorrect. Ask any old Pagan if it's a religion and they will fall of their chair laughing.

They are now referring to a certain offspring of Paganism which is Wicca. It was deemed a religion so that it could be practiced without being burned on stakes again as well as be able to practice within institutions ie; jails, prisons, hospitals etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism

Here ya go.
You guys can NEVER agree on this stuff.
EVER!

Why botherit,askit thou.lol





Hi Serenity.

wikipedia is one of the worst WORST sources for information known to man and god


actually seems ive been ridiculed for citing web sources as well



crazed angel and a few of the 'younger' girls
are pretty on that deal

its all lovely i think-all of it
we all want to be loved and love
we all want to rely and be relied on
by a greater power
deep down i believe that
and what another thinks of it doesnt make a difference. literally.
does not.

i believe for every drop of rain that falls
a flower grows

no really
i believe that

and its a good thing!
the news is on RIGHT NOW saying its gonna freeze again tonight

In addition it had become referred to as Paganism due to the rising of religions and they felt the need to put a name on it.

Pagans consist of healers, alchemists, astrologers, haruspices, Oracles and shamans if you want to get to the real nitty gritty of it.