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Was Moses just another cult leader? (and other borrowed ideas)

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Serenity1971
Serenity's Island, Arizona USA
Posted: May 3, 2008, 10:16 PM CST
mindfful wrote:
i believe for every drop of rain that falls
a flower grows

no really
i believe that

and its a good thing!
the news is on RIGHT NOW saying its gonna freeze again tonight


That's actually a truth, though it depends on what you call a flower, it could also be a weed or a blade of grass grin

I love that

It's going to be in the 90's here...Wanna trade? laugh
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 1:27 AM CST
This is kinda cool. (Plus I bumped the thread for Brezee)

Sumerian religion was polytheistic, that is, the Sumerians believed in and worshipped many gods. These gods were incredibly powerful and anthropomorphic, that is, they resembled humans. Many of these gods controlled natural forces and were associated with astronomical bodies, such as the sun. The gods were creator gods; as a group, they had created the world and the people in it. Like humans, they suffered all the ravages of human emotional and spiritual frailties: love, lust, hatred, anger, regret. Among the gods' biggest regrets was the creation of human life; the Sumerians believed that these gods regretted the creation of human life and sent a flood to destroy their faulty creation, but one man survived by building a boat. While the destruction of the earth in a great flood is nearly universal in all human mythology and religion, we can't be sure if the Semites had a similar story or took it over from the Sumerians. This is, of course, a question of contemporary significance: According to Genesis, the origionator of the Hebrew race, the patriarch of Abraham, origionally came from...(guess where?) the sumerian city of Ur!
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RobbieM
Hertford, Hertfordshire, England UK
Posted: May 4, 2008, 1:43 AM CST
mindfful wrote:
wikipedia is one of the worst WORST sources for information known to man and god


actually seems ive been ridiculed for citing web sources as well
crazed angel and a few of the 'younger' girls
are pretty on that deal

its all lovely i think-all of it
we all want to be loved and love
we all want to rely and be relied on
by a greater power
deep down i believe that
and what another thinks of it doesnt make a difference. literally.
does not.


I would agree about old Wikipedia, and most things there i take with a large pinch of salt, mainly because anyone can contribute to the subject and we all know how well informed the public are, don't welaugh

The works of Zacharia Sitchin are well worth looking at if your interested in the origins of the gods, and if you want me to suggest more reading materials, just let me know, i have one of the finest library's on the subject anywhere, right here in the house!

There's lots of common ground in ancient histories around the globe, the great flood being just one of them.Anyone who takes the bible though as a historical document though probably isn't aware it's a series of amalgamated tales from lots of ancient belief systems, mostly pagan.

Thumbs up for a thread above the level of "my favourite sock colour".
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 1:52 AM CST
RobbieM wrote:


Thumbs up for a thread above the level of "my favourite sock colour".


Sh*t, that was going to be my next thread.....rolling on the floor laughing
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breezee
athens, Attica Greece
Posted: May 4, 2008, 1:56 AM CST
RobbieM wrote:
Thumbs up for a thread above the level of "my favourite sock colour".

I'm echoing that!!thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up

Serenity, StressFree and esp. Goose applause applause applause for your very interesting, informative, intelligent posts so far teddy bear

This thread makes you think...... thumbs up
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RobbieM
Hertford, Hertfordshire, England UK
Posted: May 4, 2008, 1:59 AM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
Sh*t, that was going to be my next thread.....


Maybe we should start a thread about weird thread titles? You know, ones where a brain scan is required to be arsed to post on themrolling on the floor laughing
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 1:59 AM CST
breezee wrote:
I'm echoing that!!

Serenity, StressFree and esp. Goose for your very interesting, informative, intelligent posts so far

This thread makes you think......


Other than one incident, thee two threads have been going how I planned them. From an academic viewpoint.

No "i'm right, you're wrong." It runs much smoother when people can read things without their Dogma attached.
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 2:00 AM CST
RobbieM wrote:
Maybe we should start a thread about weird thread titles? You know, ones where a brain scan is required to be arsed to post on them


That would be funny.....
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breezee
athens, Attica Greece
Posted: May 4, 2008, 2:03 AM CST
j_goose71 wrote:

Hail, Nekhenu, who comest forth from Heqat, I have not shut my ears to the words of truth.

Hail, Sera-kheru, who comest forth from Unaset, I have not been a stirrer up of strife.

And from your OP, Goose, I thought these two lines were especially pertinent as regards the various (esp. religious) threads. laugh laugh
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breezee
athens, Attica Greece
Posted: May 4, 2008, 2:05 AM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
Other than one incident, thee two threads have been going how I planned them. From an academic viewpoint.

No "i'm right, you're wrong." It runs much smoother when people can read things without their Dogma attached.
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Serenity1971
Serenity's Island, Arizona USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 2:10 AM CST
breezee wrote:
I'm echoing that!!

Serenity, StressFree and esp. Goose for your very interesting, informative, intelligent posts so far

This thread makes you think......



I'm awaiting some of your insight on this Breezee

Thank you hug
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breezee
athens, Attica Greece
Posted: May 4, 2008, 2:10 AM CST
Woops!!
I meant.....
j_goose71 wrote:
Other than one incident, thee two threads have been going how I planned them. From an academic viewpoint.

No "i'm right, you're wrong." It runs much smoother when people can read things without their Dogma attached.

Not many can do that!!!

Really don't understand what the big deal is.

Imo, if we can stay respectful, objective, relevant,open-minded, not threatened.... there is nothing we can not discuss!!
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Serenity1971
Serenity's Island, Arizona USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 2:15 AM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
Other than one incident, thee two threads have been going how I planned them. From an academic viewpoint.

No "i'm right, you're wrong." It runs much smoother when people can read things without their Dogma attached.



I have to admit Goose...It was a bit difficult to stay unbiased due to my background and studies over the years. Though I think we for the most part agreed to disagree on many of the aspects
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breezee
athens, Attica Greece
Posted: May 4, 2008, 2:19 AM CST
Serenity1971 wrote:
I'm awaiting some of your insight on this Breezee

Thank you

Hi Serenity wave
I don't have too much insight to offer on this topic....
But the question of "god" and where we all came from, the spirit that seems to express itself though us, the how and why, the history of all pagan beliefs and newer religions, like Christianity/Islam have always interested me.
That's why I like these "religious/spiritual" threads. And wish people would stop cr*pping on them...

But I'm lazy about researching things myself. One of the reasons I'm so grateful to you guys.... hug
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 2:25 AM CST
breezee wrote:
Hi Serenity
I don't have too much insight to offer on this topic....
But the question of "god" and where we all came from, the spirit that seems to express itself though us, the how and why, the history of all pagan beliefs and newer religions, like Christianity/Islam have always interested me.
That's why I like these "religious/spiritual" threads. And wish people would stop cr*pping on them...

But I'm lazy about researching things myself. One of the reasons I'm so grateful to you guys....


Oh sure, make us do all the leg work.....rolling on the floor laughing

I've written a bunch of papers on this topic. It's good for a history lesson. Rather thatn rely on faith, I prefer fact, and proofs.

I respect those that have faith and can adhere to it (without preaching and attacking--cause I'll bite right back) But I for one, can't find enough "proof" to go that way.
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 2:26 AM CST
Serenity1971 wrote:
I have to admit Goose...It was a bit difficult to stay unbiased due to my background and studies over the years. Though I think we for the most part agreed to disagree on many of the aspects


Which is how a debate should run. We learned that in high school. But many choose to rant and show their own ignorance and tend to ruin threads.
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Serenity1971
Serenity's Island, Arizona USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 2:39 AM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
Which is how a debate should run. We learned that in high school. But many choose to rant and show their own ignorance and tend to ruin threads.



Yes I learned that as well.

I must say it's a pleasure having you back here in the threads and that you seem to be doing much better.

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aquilonecolorato
., Friuli-Venezia Giulia Italy
Posted: May 4, 2008, 2:40 AM CST
We have had two different creations ... religions have been created for the social control... through hypnotic regression of alien-abducted we have known it very well.
anyway ... I think it could be interesting to look at the movie "ZETGEIST" ... go on google video and type the word, than choose the last remastered version

ps ( i don't know if here accepts the link)

http://video.google.it/videosearch?hl=it&sitesearch=&q=zeitgeist
popcorn
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Serenity1971
Serenity's Island, Arizona USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 2:41 AM CST
breezee wrote:
Hi Serenity
I don't have too much insight to offer on this topic....
But the question of "god" and where we all came from, the spirit that seems to express itself though us, the how and why, the history of all pagan beliefs and newer religions, like Christianity/Islam have always interested me.
That's why I like these "religious/spiritual" threads. And wish people would stop cr*pping on them...

But I'm lazy about researching things myself. One of the reasons I'm so grateful to you guys....


uh oh!

Does this mean you're going to make me bring out the heavy artillery in this thread?

hole
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 2:43 AM CST
Serenity1971 wrote:
Yes I learned that as well.

I must say it's a pleasure having you back here in the threads and that you seem to be doing much better.


Thanks. I'm trying to get back into the groove of things. When I first started here, I stuck mainly to the religion and politics threads.

It took me a while to hit up the main boards and post in funnier threads, (starting a few myself) but I figure I'd hang back in the religion and politics ones again for a while psting in others here and there. But religion is actually where I'm most comfortable.
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