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The woman said that she watched the operation and listened to the conversations in the theatre. She also said that matter was no detriment to her moving where she liked. She went back into her body when they were trying to revive her.

There were details that she related to them that she could not have known, like that they used a lazer to open her skull, she had expected them to drill and then saw, stuff like that. She was hypothermic and anaesthetised before she went into theatre too so she could not have known what they would use for the procedure.

Brain dead IS the criteria for measuring if a person is dead, everywhere , all over the world, in every hospital, by ALL doctors. How can you say she wasn't dead? That makes no sense.

Some people, I believe just don't want to believe, but everyone is entitled to that.

I could give you other instances, but you would not believe them either, and being personal to me, I wouldn't share them here.....

And this document must be notorized and then laminated ,sent to Portiea for closer examination.Now it's a controlled document in fufilment of ISO specification.


For Portiea.

U R so cute, amusing, adorable...

Not convinced and think it's time to depart (lol)...

A cat scan revealed that Reynolds had a large artery aneurysm in her brain, close to the brain stem. Because of the difficult position of the aneurysm Dr. Robert Spetzler of the Barrow Neurological Institute in Phoenix, Arizona decided that an unusual surgical procedure, hypothermic cardiac arrest, had to be performed. During this procedure, also known as standstill, her body temperature was lowered to 60 °F (16 °C), her breathing and heartbeat were stopped and the blood was drained from her head. Her eyes were closed with tape. Small ear plugs with speakers were plugged in her ears. These speakers emitted audible clicks which were used to check the function of the brain stem.

For a brief period in the middle of the procedure, she had a flat EEG, a non-responsive brain stem and no blood in her brain. The operation was a success and Reynolds recovered completely.

During the operation but prior to her being put in cardiac arrest, Reynolds later reports hearing a sound like a natural 'D'. The sound seems to pull her out of her body. Then she is floating around in the operating room and watches the doctors performing the operation. She feels more aware than normal and her vision is more focused and clearer than normal vision. She makes several observations, for example:

She notices the doctor using a drill to open her skull. It surprises her that it looks like an electric toothbrush, not like a saw as she expects. It is later confirmed that the drill used by the doctor was similar in appearance to an electric toothbrush.
She hears a female voice say, "We have a problem. Her arteries are too small." It is later confirmed that the doctors first tried to connect the heart-lung machine to the right leg. But the arteries are too small so they switch to the left leg.
These examples appear to show that she was able to see and hear during the operation.

At some point during the operation she notices a presence. Then she is pulled towards a light. As she gets closer the light becomes very bright. She begins to discern figures in the light, including her grandmother, an uncle, other deceased relatives and people unknown to her.

The longer she is there, the more she is enjoying it. But at some point in time she is reminded that she has to go back. Her uncle brings her back to her body. When she looks at her body she doesn't want to go back in. Her uncle tries to persuade her, but she keeps refusing. Then she sees her body making a jump (caused by the defibrillation to start up her heart). Her uncle gives her a push and she is back in her body.

The 'Pam Reynolds' case is on Wikipedia.. if ye want to check it out....

Mark Twain had some choice things to say about the boring quality of Christian heaven. Let's face it: no life would be worth living without challenge, variety, and even some possible suffering. Perfect peace would be the perfect hell.

Jeff

If there is a life after death, I'm gonna have to start behaving, JFC what a b***h

Have a nose into the EVP phenomena as well, you might well enjoy the discovery!

EVP = Electronic Voice Phenomena [recording messages from the dead]

This is really interesting, especially when there's a fair percentage that are overtly hostile!! Have a look into it, it's fascinating.

If you want a few good books on the research into "Immortality" let me know, and i'll post a few suggestions as it's amazing stuff.

Same back Portiea.

“A friend is one that knows you as you are, understands where you have been, accepts what you have become, and still, gently allows you to grow.” Shakespeare.


Till we meet again.

Glad you found that one on here Aries. Didn't know if anyone else knew of any. It would appear thare has always been proof, it's just that no one believes one person, or even many that it happened to, unless they go through it themselves.

Facinating stuff... I read ur post with interest and looked it up.. gonna go off and read some more now .. supposed to be working.. but heart just not in it.. have forced myself to do a good few hours.. might have to give up soon..

well I allmost took a dirt nap years ago, I was raised in a christian family believed in God but never really took it seriously, so anyway I blew out from exhaustion and my heart was beating like a Bass drum for over six months, I could not sleep,

I thought if I go down like this I would burn in my after life as I was not an Angel in my younger days, health works in living sin free as well

I think if your sins are not forgiven by the Big guy In The Sky and you go down you burn, that is what hell is considered

If you go to the otherside in Gods Favour (Berakah) you live eternity in peace and with God,

Think it's ovious, look at what Christ did while on the earth, not one person gave as much as he did to Humanity, and people are still learning from his example of being an Earth Friendly inhabitant...

I have had similar waking experiences, so your finding that story to support what I was saying really made me feel not quite so odd in some of my beliefs. Thank you for that.

Really what kind??..... would be facinating to hear... you may even convert the odd sceptic

I believe that how you live your life determines how you will spend your afterlife. No heaven or hell. If you die and are content with the life you have lived then you should be content in your afterlife. If you have unfinished business, lack of a better word, youll come back and try again.

I think that nearly dying is often a good thing. It gives us a chance to ask ourselves what we are really doing here and how we can do it better. And that can't be a bad thing.

Naaaahhhhhhhh!!!! Not on here. I can only say that they were spectacular and witnessed.

Ok... fair enough

:hug;

In my opinion, heaven and/or religion is a coping mechanism, a way for humans to rationalize the unrationilazable (not a word I know). Hell on the other hand was and is a tool used by organized religions to control groups of people through fear. No offense to anyone who is religious, to each their own, it's just my opinion.

Maybe one day we will run into each other someplace like a "meet" or something and then I will tell you if you still want to know. You never know where life takes us in the grand scheme of things.

Again, thank you, You made my day.