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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: May 5, 2008, 3:57 PM CST
britainynicole08 wrote:
Those are the things I love to think about. I love debating religion with people. Not ruthlessly, just like, real debate. It opens my mind to new ideas and concepts and I open theirs and it's a great experience. I love contemplating things like that.


Check out Quantum Consciousness explains the Near Death Experience on U Tube then.. based on BBC documentary... it is possible... according to science
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bodleing
Greater Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK
Posted: May 5, 2008, 3:59 PM CST
britainynicole08 wrote:
Well perhaps we have evolved since your youth to being able to think intellectually without the presence of LSD
/sarcasm


Dont discount the power of LSD to get you
to the truth.
In fact after about an hour of taking it, no
trace remains, it just opens a door to whats
already there.
Dealing with the truth is the problem.

BTW, i would NOT advocate anyone dabbling
with this most unpredictable substance.
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britainynicole08
Amherst, Massachusetts USA
Posted: May 5, 2008, 3:59 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
It is to master your thoughts by using many tools to manipulate your energy and create a karma that will speed up your vibration. The teachings preached in all the religions, psychologies(analytical) or self help-new age books are tools to help you understand yourself, others, the world so you can love yourself, others and find happiness. In essence, giving you the power to not take anything personal which would give you a very negative energy....and negative energy is what builds bad thoughts and actions.....bad karma.

The objective with Karma is to reach a level of vibration that would be far beyond the fifth dimension. To work out all karma that would need to be worked through. So when you get to that level of vibration there is no karma.

We don't die, just transit, and we may decide to come back into physical form because the earthly experience is very vibrant and unique. However, getting caught up in karma usually happens again, so therefore, one may be stuck in the painful cycle of trying to work out karma here in this vibrational plane.
The majority of people on Earth, when they die and leave the body, are working out problems in karma, so they have to keep going back and forth. There are exceptions....different entities containing different energies on a different vibrational level, yet they are still able to tune into our astral plane of existence.

In my studies of all the religions, cognitive psychology, philosophy, cosmology, and Astrology, I have found that one of one of the main functions of our soul is to accumulate information from all the lives we ever live. Our ultimate goal is to return to the source Nirvana/Heaven/our concept of God, the Creator. When we have completed all the journeys and adventures through all our many variety of lives we are supposed to return to the Source with our accumulation of knowledge. Knowledge and info seem to be the main purpose of the human species, and thus nothing can be right or wrong. It is only positive and negative we learn lessons from it and it enables us to work out any karma so we can complete our assignments and return to the source. In that respect in the final analysis all we have and are is the sum of our experiences and our knowledge.



Hmm well I'm not really sure I can continue this conversation because I do not share the same beliefs, probably because I cannot understand these observations, they don't make sense to me. I do not believe in souls or a god, or anything. I just believe that we die and our consciousness ends there. If anything happens afterward, it is not something that could be described with the human senses of sight, taste, hearing, smell, touch, knowledge, anything. I would like to believe in other dimensions, maybe other worlds and creatures in other dimensions, but I'm not sure I believe we can knowingly acquire a Karma in the sense that you speak in another dimension. We simply would not be able to tell. Taking things personally, defensiveness, these are all parts of personalities, they are not wrong. I strongly disagree that being defensive would cause you bad Karma. It's exactly the same as saying if you sin you're going to hell. I just don't buy it. But I respect your opinion and your theories and I find them interesting, something to think about for a while.
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britainynicole08
Amherst, Massachusetts USA
Posted: May 5, 2008, 3:59 PM CST
Aries01 wrote:
Check out Quantum Consciousness explains the Near Death Experience on U Tube then.. based on BBC documentary... it is possible... according to science


I meant with people. Science is just as deceptive as religion at times. It's hard to trust anything in this world.
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bajanblue
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Posted: May 5, 2008, 4:09 PM CST
I have not yet managed to stay dead for longer than two hundred and ten seconds so I cannot give a fully informed report.
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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden
Posted: May 5, 2008, 4:10 PM CST
britainynicole08 wrote:
I strongly disagree that being defensive would cause you bad Karma. It's exactly the same as saying if you sin you're going to hell. I just don't buy it.


scold What I meant to imply is that if you allow something to irritate you in the sense that it builds up with your negative thoughts, and your imminent actions are meant to hurt somebody in a act of revenge so you feel better about yourself. It's like spreading a virus of negative and cruel actions. If you are at peace with yourself, then really nothing can bother you. You just understand the other person's internal garbage and ignore him or her instead of reacting with the same negative garbage that creates a bad vibration....bad negative thought that manifest a negative reality. Thoughts create and attract, good or bad.
So by taking things personal without a sense of reasoning or understanding, and returning the negative actions, creates a hell in your mind, his or her mind.
There is nothing to gain. It's okay to defend yourself and reason away by teaching or expressing in a peaceful manner so the other person can understand. If they can't, then I would just walk away and not worry about that person's half. I'm really only worried about my half. That is what I can control....and I want it in a good and happy vibe.
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britainynicole08
Amherst, Massachusetts USA
Posted: May 5, 2008, 4:36 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
What I meant to imply is that if you allow something to irritate you in the sense that it builds up with your negative thoughts, and your imminent actions are meant to hurt somebody in a act of revenge so you feel better about yourself. It's like spreading a virus of negative and cruel actions. If you are at peace with yourself, then really nothing can bother you. You just understand the other person's internal garbage and ignore him or her instead of reacting with the same negative garbage that creates a bad vibration....bad negative thought that manifest a negative reality. Thoughts create and attract, good or bad.
So by taking things personal without a sense of reasoning or understanding, and returning the negative actions, creates a hell in your mind, his or her mind.
There is nothing to gain. It's okay to defend yourself and reason away by teaching or expressing in a peaceful manner so the other person can understand. If they can't, then I would just walk away and not worry about that person's half. I'm really only worried about my half. That is what I can control....and I want it in a good and happy vibe.



Well I feel like that's what life is about, learning to be at peace with yourself. Humans are not peaceful creatures and good and bad are part of our nature. I would love to be at peace with myself, that's what I'm hoping I can learn from life. But it will take a while. I'm only in the beginning stages grin
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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: May 5, 2008, 4:56 PM CST
britainynicole08 wrote:
I meant with people. Science is just as deceptive as religion at times. It's hard to trust anything in this world.


Well at least open ur mind.. explore all the possibities.. enlighten urself and then draw an informed conclusion... as a clearly clever person, you would be doing urself a serious injustice if you didn't at least to that dunno
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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: May 5, 2008, 4:57 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
What I meant to imply is that if you allow something to irritate you in the sense that it builds up with your negative thoughts, and your imminent actions are meant to hurt somebody in a act of revenge so you feel better about yourself. It's like spreading a virus of negative and cruel actions. If you are at peace with yourself, then really nothing can bother you. You just understand the other person's internal garbage and ignore him or her instead of reacting with the same negative garbage that creates a bad vibration....bad negative thought that manifest a negative reality. Thoughts create and attract, good or bad.
So by taking things personal without a sense of reasoning or understanding, and returning the negative actions, creates a hell in your mind, his or her mind.
There is nothing to gain. It's okay to defend yourself and reason away by teaching or expressing in a peaceful manner so the other person can understand. If they can't, then I would just walk away and not worry about that person's half. I'm really only worried about my half. That is what I can control....and I want it in a good and happy vibe.
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newinsouth
Aiken, South Carolina USA
Posted: May 5, 2008, 5:00 PM CST
kidatheart wrote:
I thought that way a lot in my youth, but I gave up LSD a dozen years ago.

Still delve into the possibilities at times. I wonder if those are flashback moments.


Hmmmmm. Did someone slip me something without my knowledge??

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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden
Posted: May 5, 2008, 5:00 PM CST
britainynicole08 wrote:
Well I feel like that's what life is about, learning to be at peace with yourself. Humans are not peaceful creatures and good and bad are part of our nature. I would love to be at peace with myself, that's what I'm hoping I can learn from life. But it will take a while. I'm only in the beginning stages


The Force is strong in you britainynicole, I am really impressed that you are outside the reality of the prescribed nonsense.
Is there any way you can be britainynicole 20 years later and come back and post in this forum in the now? I would love to see your expanded observations. Keep an open mind, decide for yourself, and keep studying Science/Cosmology and learn as many spiritualities/religions as you can. I'm not saying convert, but see what is out there for you to connect. I know it's cliche, but the truth is out there. If you ask, you will receive.

Take a look at Theosophy if you get a chance. You may or may not see a connection about energy, souls, and many different astral planes of existence. Just a thought so you get a good look about how our soul leaves our bodies during dreams and after death. Choice is yours...come as you are.
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lusciousmile
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Posted: May 5, 2008, 5:05 PM CST
I'll listen to a dead man's experience..............then again, i'm probably not too keen on that....uh oh!
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britainynicole08
Amherst, Massachusetts USA
Posted: May 5, 2008, 7:00 PM CST
Aries01 wrote:
Well at least open ur mind.. explore all the possibities.. enlighten urself and then draw an informed conclusion... as a clearly clever person, you would be doing urself a serious injustice if you didn't at least to that



I never said I didn't have an open mind, just because I don't personally believe things doesn't mean I'm not open to the possibility that I could be wrong. I do delve into it, I like to debate it and research it whenever I'm skeptical of something or feel like I need to delve deeper into the situation. I have an open mind but I also have my own beliefs. I'm not saying anyone is wrong because I don't have the power to do that.
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skwidwurd
Aberdeen, Grampian, Scotland UK
Posted: May 5, 2008, 7:04 PM CST
if nothing exists beyond death then we have a whole shitload of spiritualists, mediums etc who are all FAKE! personally, i've never been to see one but i've had people close to me who have and have been pretty impressed/shocked by the accuracy of the readings they've had. never been quite sure what to believe but i'm convinced our souls carry on. whether into another life form or another dimension. i guess we'll all find out one day though rolling eyes
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britainynicole08
Amherst, Massachusetts USA
Posted: May 5, 2008, 7:07 PM CST
StressFree wrote:

Is there any way you can be britainynicole 20 years later and come back and post in this forum in the now? I would love to see your expanded observations. Keep an open mind, decide for yourself, and keep studying Science/Cosmology and learn as many spiritualities/religions as you can. I'm not saying convert, but see what is out there for you to connect. I know it's cliche, but the truth is out there. If you ask, you will receive.



Haha that's if the world still exists 20 years from now XD But yeah, definitely. Right now, I love reading and learning about Buddhism, I love the way that it isn't as much about worshiping Buddha because he was human once. I love that. I love that the whole point of Buddhism is to learn how to just be, and how you have to find the best path through life trying to be the best person you can possibly be. Stand for peace. I just love the whole concept of it. That is exactly what I want to learn to do. Just to be, and I'm finding my way through life trying to make good decisions and find the best path through life. Have you ever heard of the Tao of Piglet and the Dao of Pooh? Greatest books ever!
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britainynicole08
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Posted: May 5, 2008, 7:14 PM CST
skwidwurd wrote:
if nothing exists beyond death then we have a whole shitload of spiritualists, mediums etc who are all FAKE! personally, i've never been to see one but i've had people close to me who have and have been pretty impressed/shocked by the accuracy of the readings they've had. never been quite sure what to believe but i'm convinced our souls carry on. whether into another life form or another dimension. i guess we'll all find out one day though



Mediums, spiritualists, psychics, they're all fake. Derren Brown I think it is? That amazing psychologist.... he proved them wrong. If they're specific enough, you can give many people the exact same reading and they will all think it's extremely accurate. Look it up on Youtube... this one is about mediums: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G18NfN76bAs

Here's one about psychics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btP_vy5cQq4

He has a whole bunch of videos like that. Guy's amazing. Check it out.
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skwidwurd
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Posted: May 5, 2008, 7:25 PM CST
britainynicole08 wrote:
Mediums, spiritualists, psychics, they're all fake. Derren Brown I think it is? That amazing psychologist.... he proved them wrong. If they're specific enough, you can give many people the exact same reading and they will all think it's extremely accurate. Look it up on Youtube... this one is about mediums: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G18NfN76bAs

Here's one about psychics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btP_vy5cQq4

He has a whole bunch of videos like that. Guy's amazing. Check it out.


sorry but i can't accept that. here's one example:

my ex went to see one shortly after we split up last year.among other things the medium said there was a male spirit with her - which she described as MY father! he told her how sorry he was that things never worked out and that she was to get on with her life. she told him we had a son (who was born after my father died) who had a connection with my father - my son's middle name was the same as my fathers. she told of a relative in the STATES who'd recently passed away (her aunt died in ny a few months previous) and said the woman was asking about my ex's brother (who she NAMED and had been close to when he was young). she also NAMED her father and came pretty close to naming her mother - which was quite surreal since her mum's name is NOMITA. not a name ANY fake medium could pluck out of the air - particularly in this neck of the woods. conclusion.........she'd have to be one HELLUVA clever fake!!!!
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britainynicole08
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Posted: May 5, 2008, 7:30 PM CST
Who knows, maybe there are a few exceptions, maybe not. I've never been, so I have no personal experience to tack onto this. I know a lot of them are fake but that's a pretty cool story.
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Posted: May 5, 2008, 7:43 PM CST
britainynicole08 wrote:
Who knows, maybe there are a few exceptions, maybe not. I've never been, so I have no personal experience to tack onto this. I know a lot of them are fake but that's a pretty cool story.


Another perspective for you...........http://www.edgarcayce.org/

Worth reading everything you can on him before making up your mind.



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skwidwurd
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Posted: May 5, 2008, 7:46 PM CST
just watched that link you put up ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G18NfN76bAs ). must say that for him to be faking that and give such accurate details is pretty astounding. particularly the 2nd lady and the elevator stuff - and the fact he was right about her dad passing when she was young. maybe he is a medium and doesn't even realise it. i once read about a medium (think it was doris stokes) who admitted she used to fake it - until one day she saw a real spirit who gave her a rollicking for fooling the audience. apparently she apologised to the audience there and then and went on to be a world renowned medium. fact is, there's so much we don't understand and perhaps never will. telekenesis, mind reading, even the powers of the pendulum (which i dabbled in for a while and was often quite surprised by the results- although, i think a lot of the results were brought on by my subconscious). i have a real strong urge to go see this medium though because i'm often overwhelmed by the feeling that my father is around and i'm CONVINCED he's trying to contact me. thing is, i'm bloody TERRIFIED of that kinda stuff lol.
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