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WHO ARE THE BEST FILMMAKERS ? SHOULD AFRICAN PEOPLE BE BANNED FROM MAKING FILMS ?

Posted: May 10, 2008, 4:10 AM CST
gillyloves69 wrote:
talk to me about the difference between the ghanian , nigerian , zimbawaeian , and south african film industries and filmmakers !

who makes the best films ? and has the best filmmakers ? and why ?

drama documentary feature films and cartoons ?




dunno

oh well i guess nobody's going to tell us why south african films aare better than nigerian films then?????


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cutypie
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Posted: May 10, 2008, 4:17 AM CST
.Uck knows my friend .....but my nephew Steve.Pegrum..... works for .Spielberge ....but now ....directing movies....A Brit.......worked hard animations.....Betty Boob ...rah de Rah........................and has had found his place so far........thumbs up He is a lovely nephew x
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Posted: May 10, 2008, 6:32 AM CST
cutypie wrote:
.Uck knows my friend .....but my nephew Steve.Pegrum..... works for .Spielberge ....but now ....directing movies....A Brit.......worked hard animations.....Betty Boob ...rah de Rah........................and has had found his place so far........ He is a lovely nephew x




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does he make a lot of money doing it cutypie ? ...ring him up right now and ask him if the worlds best animators are from japan ? and why japanese people are so creazy about animations ?


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cutypie
auckland, Auckland New Zealand
Posted: May 10, 2008, 8:23 AM CST
Hi Gillywave

Yes he makes good money he directed Wallace & Grommit and Flushed away..
Steve Pegram I spelt it incorrectly ..............grin

He started life at the bottom and now very comfotable..grin

My sisters boy..thumbs up
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Posted: May 10, 2008, 8:27 AM CST
cutypie wrote:
Hi Gilly

Yes he makes good money he directed Wallace & Grommit and Flushed away..
Steve Pegram I spelt it incorrectly ..............

He started life at the bottom and now very comfotable..

My sisters boy..



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thats really nice cutipie ! good for him !

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what type of films do you like then ?

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Ulimaroa
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Posted: May 10, 2008, 4:55 PM CST
gillyloves69 wrote:
hi ulimaroa !



you mean quentin tarrentino ?



Thats right !

It was'nt on the
tip of my tongue
just then... cheers
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Rickster
New York, New York USA
Posted: May 10, 2008, 5:03 PM CST
gillyloves69 wrote:
WHAT WAS THAT FILM ABOUT THEN ?...


That movie was about a white man having a hard time jumping rope. He fell down and busted his lip. That was a sad movie.

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Posted: May 10, 2008, 11:13 PM CST
Ulimaroa wrote:
Thats right !

It was'nt on the
tip of my tongue
just then...



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Posted: May 10, 2008, 11:17 PM CST
Rickster wrote:
That movie was about a white man having a hard time jumping rope. He fell down and busted his lip. That was a sad movie.
Wasn't that" White men can"t jump.".rolling on the floor laughing
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Posted: May 10, 2008, 11:21 PM CST
Rickster wrote:
That movie was about a white man having a hard time jumping rope. He fell down and busted his lip. That was a sad movie.



wave

hi rickstar ! haven';t heard frpm you for a long time !

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ere tell me something rickstar why do you think people who joined the thread ' in a non positive way ' disapears when you start talking to them ?


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Posted: May 10, 2008, 11:23 PM CST
mastic55 wrote:
Wasn't that" White men can"t jump.".



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what are you doing up at this time of morning mastic ? ...go back to bed man


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Posted: May 10, 2008, 11:27 PM CST
mastic55 wrote:
Wasn't that" White men can"t jump.".



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ere mastic do you ever dream of living anywhere else apart from new york ? or does that city grow on you ?


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Shadow_lover
West Palm, Florida USA
Posted: May 10, 2008, 11:50 PM CST
I personally have never seen a African film. I've seen a few foreign films and wasn't very impressed. I mean England make some good comedies, and Japan make cool toons but the rest of Europe doesn't have such great film making skills IMO
Any suggestions for an African film to check out Gilly?
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Posted: May 11, 2008, 1:53 AM CST
Shadow_lover wrote:
I personally have never seen a African film. I've seen a few foreign films and wasn't very impressed. I mean England make some good comedies, and Japan make cool toons but the rest of Europe doesn't have such great film making skills IMO
Any suggestions for an African film to check out Gilly?


PART 1

wave hi shadow_lover !

welcome to the threads man !...by the way have you seen don kings house in west palm beeech ? ( he's suppose to have an house there for yer ass )!

head banger

there's a man that made a lot of money !

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when you mention ' african 'some americans automatically think you're you're talking about ' black americans ' because apparently
thats what a black man is called in america for some reason...but no i'm talking about american blacks i'm talking about africans when it comes to filmmaking !

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i've just started slowly getting into african films and hopefully tv as a starting point regarding worldwide cinema so i'll soon be able to start talking deeper about it ! at the moment i'm in the process of watching an african film called ' dilema 'once again made by an african film student freind of mine, a great film for many reasons that they're having trouble trying to get marketed...(there's a new breed of anglo african filmmakers emerging in the united kingdom...and especially screenplay writers that i'm looking forward to eventually linking up with)! that i'm watching again for technical reasons to talk about better at college this week !

cheering

did you ever see the african film ' the gods must be crazy ' that came out in the national cinema about 20 years ago ? thats the only african film that i know of that got a natioinal release over here that i know of...why was that ?

dunno

why was that is the question i'm interesting in as a film student at the moment !

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what foreign films have you seen that you think might be worth talking about ?

have you seen any french films like ' la hain ' ? apparently that an ' the french connection was one of the films that helped to put french films ' on the map ' ! french cinema since that period has always being regarded as ' exciting cinema ' and also italian cinema ! as film students we always taught to look at the work of goddard ! there were many seens in a film called ' la aventura ' that touched me ..but i'll talk about that when we hopefully start talking european cinema !

cheering

because not just looking forward to talking to more african people about african cinema ,and films from around the world ...but also i'm looking forward to talking to people about that to find out what they think about european cinema for historical reasons !...



i thought " hey the british are doing well " with films like 'chariots of fire , four weddings and a funeral, notting hill, all about a boy,a fish called wanda, bridget jones diary etc. but then realised that some of those were actually american made films set in england !


hmmm

which brings me to another point

1. whats happening to the british film industry shadow_lover ?

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Posted: May 11, 2008, 1:54 AM CST
Shadow_lover wrote:
I personally have never seen a African film. I've seen a few foreign films and wasn't very impressed. I mean England make some good comedies, and Japan make cool toons but the rest of Europe doesn't have such great film making skills IMO
Any suggestions for an African film to check out Gilly?


PART 2

2. HOW MANY SUCCESFULL BLOCK BUSTER FILMS HAVE YOU SEEN MADE BY THE BRITISH ?

dunno

3.why are most of all these big budget films always made by hollywood americans my freind ?... yes lets talk about the james bond films and chubbly bronchly THE PRODUCER !

dancing banana

4. arieso1 ( a very interesting person to talk to on a deeper level ...who i can't wait to carry on talking to after i've spoken to you )! raises some interesting points about the irish filmmaking industry ...which is now doing well because of the intervention encouragement and support from the irish government thats now producing good films and bringing wealth and talent into ireland !


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lots to talk about to you and aries01 maybe later after i've come back from the sunday market today !...summers here in london, now i've got to go and find some tea shirts that makes me look sexy !


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by the way what englush comedies you like then ? do you get to watch any british tv comedy series in america like

1. little britian?

2. only fools and horses ?

3. 4. 5. 6. 7. er will somebody help me in telling shadow_lover our best tv comedy series over here please

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Posted: May 11, 2008, 2:12 AM CST
gillyloves69 wrote:
oh well i guess nobody's going to tell us why south african films aare better than nigerian films then?????



The South African Movie Industry is much more organized than Nollywood. In South Africa, proper time and effort is put into the production of a movie and emphasis is made on quality and most agencies are willing to do their work without compromise as regards quality control. Resources are available and infrastructure is in place. Professionals are called in to do the job and all these put together with the fact that South Africa has got a lot of stories to tell and the diversity of it's peoples which also brings to live creativity at its best makes most of their movies worthwhile. Foreign producers and directors are also always willing to work with the South African movie industry. Try movies like Mama Jack, Yesterday, Tsotsi, Drum, .. just to mention a few.

In Nigeria, ... the reverse is the case. More emphasis is made on how much the movie generates than on what quality is provided. An average Nigerian producer wants to invest as little as possible and reap as much as possible from one movie. This trend has made it possible for one producer to come up with as much as 30 to 40 movies in a year, until recently. Production is based on an extremely low budget even if funds are made available and agencies responsible for quality control are always willing to look the other way when tipped. Although a few works from distinguished professionals have stood out, 90 percent of what is produced is rubbish, especially since the name Nollywood was derived from a combination of the words Nothing and Wood, .. of course by a film critic. Another disturbing trend in the Nigeria Movie Industry is the deliberate casting of Family members by film makers, .. you often see a movie where all the roles are played by members of one family who are most times untrained, uneducated and even stark illiterates.
A lot of other factors come into light on this matter but I hope I have answered your question Gilly and I am free to disappear again i suppose, .. since I have a life outside of CS. I suggest you get one too Gilly, .. it would really help you to be less naughty and irritating.

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Posted: May 11, 2008, 2:22 AM CST
sexophone wrote:
The South African Movie Industry is much more organized than Nollywood. In South Africa, proper time and effort is put into the production of a movie and emphasis is made on quality and most agencies are willing to do their work without compromise as regards quality control. Resources are available and infrastructure is in place. Professionals are called in to do the job and all these put together with the fact that South Africa has got a lot of stories to tell and the diversity of it's peoples which also brings to live creativity at its best makes most of their movies worthwhile. Foreign producers and directors are also always willing to work with the South African movie industry. Try movies like Mama Jack, Yesterday, Tsotsi, Drum, .. just to mention a few.

In Nigeria, ... the reverse is the case. More emphasis is made on how much the movie generates than on what quality is provided. An average Nigerian producer wants to invest as little as possible and reap as much as possible from one movie. This trend has made it possible for one producer to come up with as much as 30 to 40 movies in a year, until recently. Production is based on an extremely low budget even if funds are made available and agencies responsible for quality control are always willing to look the other way when tipped. Although a few works from distinguished professionals have stood out, 90 percent of what is produced is rubbish, especially since the name Nollywood was derived from a combination of the words Nothing and Wood, .. of course by a film critic. Another disturbing trend in the Nigeria Movie Industry is the deliberate casting of Family members by film makers, .. you often see a movie where all the roles are played by members of one family who are most times untrained, uneducated and even stark illiterates.
A lot of other factors come into light on this matter but I hope I have answered your question Gilly and I am free to disappear again i suppose, .. since I have a life outside of CS. I suggest you get one too Gilly, .. it would really help you to be less naughty and irritating.



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WELL DONE SEXOPHONE !..YOU'VE STARTED " REALLY TALKING TO ME "

thats a for a brilliant insight into the nigerian and south african film industry !

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lots to talk about there !

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by the way i've got a life !... i go to the market every sunday !


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Shadow_lover
West Palm, Florida USA
Posted: May 11, 2008, 2:26 AM CST
gillyloves69 wrote:
PART 1

hi shadow_lover !

welcome to the threads man !...by the way have you seen don kings house in west palm beeech ? ( he's suppose to have an house there for yer ass )!



there's a man that made a lot of money !
when you mention ' african 'some americans automatically think you're you're talking about ' black americans ' because apparently
thats what a black man is called in america for some reason...but no i'm talking about american blacks i'm talking about africans when it comes to filmmaking !



i've just started slowly getting into african films and hopefully tv as a starting point regarding worldwide cinema so i'll soon be able to start talking deeper about it ! at the moment i'm in the process of watching an african film called ' dilema 'once again made by an african film student freind of mine, a great film for many reasons that they're having trouble trying to get marketed...(there's a new breed of anglo african filmmakers emerging in the united kingdom...and especially screenplay writers that i'm looking forward to eventually linking up with)! that i'm watching again for technical reasons to talk about better at college this week !



did you ever see the african film ' the gods must be crazy ' that came out in the national cinema about 20 years ago ? thats the only african film that i know of that got a natioinal release over here that i know of...why was that ?



why was that is the question i'm interesting in as a film student at the moment !



what foreign films have you seen that you think might be worth talking about ?

have you seen any french films like ' la hain ' ? apparently that an ' the french connection was one of the films that helped to put french films ' on the map ' ! french cinema since that period has always being regarded as ' exciting cinema ' and also italian cinema ! as film students we always taught to look at the work of goddard ! there were many seens in a film called ' la aventura ' that touched me ..but i'll talk about that when we hopefully start talking european cinema !



because not just looking forward to talking to more african people about african cinema ,and films from around the world ...but also i'm looking forward to talking to people about that to find out what they think about european cinema for historical reasons !...
i thought " hey the british are doing well " with films like 'chariots of fire , four weddings and a funeral, notting hill, all about a boy,a fish called wanda, bridget jones diary etc. but then realised that some of those were actually american made films set in england !

which brings me to another point

1. whats happening to the british film industry shadow_lover ?



Well to start the African American thing is a political correct thing that I think is bull shyt, sorry if it ticks anyone but we have black American and white Americans and Hispanic Americans. My thoughts on the whole African American thing is if you weren’t born in Africa your not African.

The Gods must be Crazy, I saw this but had no idea it was African. It’s been a long time ago granted so I can’t remember how I felt about it.

As for UK, I grew up watching Monty Python movies, and sneaking to watch Benny Hill on late night TV.

As for other European Films I think but am not sure, Pan’s Labyrinth was from Spain?? I liked that but had to watch it twice to really appreciate it.


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Posted: May 11, 2008, 2:33 AM CST
Most of the big Blockbuster are from Hollywood because American are movie fanatics and are willing to spend millions to make a film, where a lot of other countries may not have the funds to do the same.
I’m not a film student mind you, just a movie nut. You know we get the BBC over here. I TIVO the new Dr. Who.. That was another one I grew up watching
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Posted: May 11, 2008, 12:41 PM CST
Shadow_lover wrote:
Most of the big Blockbuster are from Hollywood because American are movie fanatics and are willing to spend millions to make a film, where a lot of other countries may not have the funds to do the same.
I’m not a film student mind you, just a movie nut. You know we get the BBC over here. I TIVO the new Dr. Who.. That was another one I grew up watching



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lots to talk about there with both of your post tommoow shadow_lover !

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\do many americans go to the cinema to watch british comedy feature films ? is it popular over there ?

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