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i agree with a lot you have to say there. the swiss have over 90 percent of the people there have firearms and it is the lowest crimerate in the world. strange huh? the govt is trying to tell us the opposite. how tryandcatchme doing. never got back to me.

I understand Solitare, that you have shared an article which quotes "research" statistics. So many easily believe everything they read, or every pole taken. The pole is totally inacurate, as only those who can afford it, are members of NRA. Many choose NOT to be members of NRA, yet still own guns. Many own guns which are not accounted for, unregistered, etc. There is absolutely no way to know the information the author has written in this article. The study group was of a certain cartel, not of everyone. Also, why do they show stats from 2006, then quote outraged people from 1996? It's all bunk, but good for the making of the Naked and Warm movie you have suggested, and that is about all it is good for.

I grew up in a rural area of Mississippi. Everyone there hunted and had firearms. Most of the vehicles in the school parking lot had gun racks with at least a shotgun and rifle in it. There has been 1 murder in the last 50 years and most people leave there houses and cars unlocked.

You either quoted the wrong person or misunderstood my posts. I am already a person who believes in and supports the right to bear arms. Also own several myself. No need to try to convince me.

Thanks. I also agree with what you're saying.

Hi Sparky55, guess it looks like my post was to oppose your quote, was not my intention, just building on what you said, probably should have let it stand alone.

Nugent: Gun-free zones are recipe for disaster
By Ted Nugent
Special to CNN




WACO, Texas (CNN) -- Zero tolerance, huh? Gun-free zones, huh? Try this on for size: Columbine gun-free zone, New York City pizza shop gun-free zone, Luby's Cafeteria gun-free zone, Amish school in Pennsylvania gun-free zone and now Virginia Tech gun-free zone.

Anybody see what the evil Brady Campaign and other anti-gun cults have created? I personally have zero tolerance for evil and denial. And America had best wake up real fast that the brain-dead celebration of unarmed helplessness will get you killed every time, and I've about had enough of it.

Nearly a decade ago, a Springfield, Oregon, high schooler, a hunter familiar with firearms, was able to bring an unfolding rampage to an abrupt end when he identified a gunman attempting to reload his .22-caliber rifle, made the tactical decision to make a move and tackled the shooter.

A few years back, an assistant principal at Pearl High School in Mississippi, which was a gun-free zone, retrieved his legally owned Colt .45 from his car and stopped a Columbine wannabe from continuing his massacre at another school after he had killed two and wounded more at Pearl.

At an eighth-grade school dance in Pennsylvania, a boy fatally shot a teacher and wounded two students before the owner of the dance hall brought the killing to a halt with his own gun.

More recently, just a few miles up the road from Virginia Tech, two law school students ran to fetch their legally owned firearm to stop a madman from slaughtering anybody and everybody he pleased. These brave, average, armed citizens neutralized him pronto.

My hero, Dr. Suzanne Gratia Hupp, was not allowed by Texas law to carry her handgun into Luby's Cafeteria that fateful day in 1991, when due to bureaucrat-forced unarmed helplessness she could do nothing to stop satanic George Hennard from killing 23 people and wounding more than 20 others before he shot himself. Hupp was unarmed for no other reason than denial-ridden "feel good" politics.

She has since led the charge for concealed weapon upgrade in Texas, where we can now stop evil. Yet, there are still the mindless puppets of the Brady Campaign and other anti-gun organizations insisting on continuing the gun-free zone insanity by which innocents are forced into unarmed helplessness. Shame on them. Shame on America. Shame on the anti-gunners all.

No one was foolish enough to debate Ryder truck regulations or ammonia nitrate restrictions or a "cult of agriculture fertilizer" following the unabashed evil of Timothy McVeigh's heinous crime against America on that fateful day in Oklahoma City. No one faulted kitchen utensils or other hardware of choice after Jeffrey Dahmer was caught drugging, mutilating, raping, murdering and cannibalizing his victims. Nobody wanted "steak knife control" as they autopsied the dead nurses in Chicago, Illinois, as Richard Speck went on trial for mass murder.

Evil is as evil does, and laws disarming guaranteed victims make evil people very, very happy. Shame on us.

Already spineless gun control advocates are squawking like chickens with their tiny-brained heads chopped off, making political hay over this most recent, devastating Virginia Tech massacre, when in fact it is their own forced gun-free zone policy that enabled the unchallenged methodical murder of 32 people.

Thirty-two people dead on a U.S. college campus pursuing their American Dream, mowed-down over an extended period of time by a lone, non-American gunman in possession of a firearm on campus in defiance of a zero-tolerance gun ban. Feel better yet? Didn't think so.

Who doesn't get this? Who has the audacity to demand unarmed helplessness? Who likes dead good guys?

I'll tell you who. People who tramp on the Second Amendment, that's who. People who refuse to accept the self-evident truth that free people have the God-given right to keep and bear arms, to defend themselves and their loved ones. People who are so desperate in their drive to control others, so mindless in their denial that they pretend access to gas causes arson, Ryder trucks and fertilizer cause terrorism, water causes drowning, forks and spoons cause obesity, dialing 911 will somehow save your life, and that their greedy clamoring to "feel good" is more important than admitting that armed citizens are much better equipped to stop evil than unarmed, helpless ones.

Pray for the families of victims everywhere, America. Study the methodology of evil. It has a profile, a system, a preferred environment where victims cannot fight back. Embrace the facts, demand upgrade and be certain that your children's school has a better plan than Virginia Tech or Columbine. Eliminate the insanity of gun-free zones, which will never, ever be gun-free zones. They will only be good guy gun-free zones, and that is a recipe for disaster written in blood on the altar of denial. I, for one, refuse to genuflect there.

WhooooHooooo Conrad!!!





That's telling it like it is... Great Points!!!

And of course we can't leave out my personal good friend Ted!!!

The scariest thing about guns is the ignorance of people and the fear they have of them. I have never heard of a gun killing anyone. In Canada more people die from stabbings than gunfire, yet everyone owns a knife. Beats me.

Hi Tampa!!

I have been trained with a gun and know nothing about using a knife as a weapon, only defensive tactics to get someone to drop one. Personally, I do not want to be that close to an attacker, to have to do hand to hand combat. I am very tiny and only weigh 103 pounds. A big person could make mince meat out of me easily. Using a gun, I can stop them in their tracks. I own lots of knives, but I use them to open packages, cut things, make sandwiches and as a screwdriver when one is not available. Don't know that I could stab anyone with a knife, not unless I could pitch it at them

Oh, no worries, Just was a bit confused. Thanks for your reply.

That pretty much sums it up. Great post Conrad..

Conrad, again sir , spot on! Thanks!

I grew up around my grandfathers, rather large, collection of shotguns and pistols. I honestly can't remember ever touching one .
I was taught that they were not for kids(lived with them til I was 8)
and that there is no such thing as an unloaded gun!!!!




Maybe we should outlaw toy guns so children never learn to "play" with them in the first place?


Yeah HL, don't forget all the ignorant slaughter videogames.

Or is all the joystick training just for future soldiers?






SHANTI

That's telling it like it is, good points in your post.Conrad

Wooooeeeehhhhhhaaaaa.....


Just gone seven in the morning here......popped in to have a quick look at the threads before I start my day....

Gives me the shivers just to hear all this talk of the need to shoot at someone....

Irrespective of the issue of guns per se, isn't it scary that the argument seems to revolve solely on shooting down somebody else?

We aren't discussing hunting deer or ducks here. We are I believe, civilised human beings who are blatantly approving and justifyiong the need to shoot down people. And we call it self defence.

Kind of scary first thing in the morning.

Thank God don't have such needs around here.

Call it idealistic, call it what u want....human life is sacred.

This is finally the response that should have been first; to question the writer, the editor and the Journal itself; to demand a public explanation of these stats and the purpose of publishing them. To publicly demand a public explanation of their motives to the scenarios being set-up and underlined in peoples minds, The entire paper should be held accountable by anyone who are advocates of the right of a free people to bear arms. As things stand now, the field belongs to those who would outlaw all private ownership under any circumstances and who would only give people the image of some crazed lunatic armed with a gun slaughtering innocent and unarmed people as the only image possible. It really is long overdue that these people be forced to acknowledge stark reality, especially the mass media who, by design speak for all; all meaning only those that agree with their agendas of outlawing all guns from all people...

What is strange is the propensity for Americans to go off the rails and shoot one another.

Look at Canada, they have load of weapons and a tradition of hunting etc but for some reason they don't seem to resort to using their guns on one another.

The Swiss as Conrad will tell you can own guns and keep them in their home, yet somehow they don't seem to have the same propensity for going down to the 7/11 and blowing away a cashier or a shootout at the nearest burger restaurant.

Some kind of control is needed on the type of weapons the general public can be allowed to purchase.

For instance, an AR14 is basically an M16, an assault rifle, why do you need one of these for home defence or hunting?

Likewise way a Barret .50 sniper rifle or say a tactical Remington 700, you need one of these to hunt dear?

Why do you need a Mac10? For home defence?

Why is it possible to by conversion kits and burst triggers for combine rifles? Cant you hit a dear at say 300 yards so feel the need to own a machine gun to mow it down?

And if a criminal breaks into your home and your responsible and have your guns locked up in a safe/cage then their is precisely zero chance of a methed up/crackhead letting you get your firearm out to defend your self?

I hope children are taught to respect firearms in your homes and you do not keep a round chambered and the safety left off, or god forbid what could and has happened to lots of kiddies.

Guns are legally banned in Britain, sadly though criminals know exactly where to get them, but massacres with guns are a rarity, though yesterday a solicitor went nuts in london and the police had to shoot him dead in fashionable Chelsea.

Mental illness and weapons is a bad idea, and automatic weapons make it far easier to kill a lot of people real fast.I know what what a minimi or saw can do, i've used them.