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Record Energy Prices Are a Threat to Your Life Style

Posted: May 7, 2008, 11:30 AM CST
This week crude oil futures hit another all time high of $112 a barrel. What did not make headlines is home heating oil is also at an all time high and gasoline is up and propane is up and diesel fuel is up and jet fuel is up.

Things are really looking up if you are invested in any of the above. But, for most of us, it means every thing we buy will be more expensive.

Someday it may take most of your paycheck to fuel up your ride.

If you buy something on the internet and have it delivered to your home, the higher cost of delivery truck fuel will make it more expensive. If the stuff you buy gets to the store by truck, the cost will be up. Air freight costs are going up too.

Higher prices for diesel tractor fuel mean higher cost for farm produce. Higher prices for propane means the cost of processing farm produce will be up. Higher oil prices will drive up fertilizer cost up for the farmer also.

The higher cost of growing corn means ethanol prices will be up.

Oh, I almost forgot natural gas prices are up also.

All these increasing energy prices impact the market price of just about everything we buy.

To protect our personal economic security we all need to take action to reduce the impact that increasing energy costs have on our lives.

Saving energy is not just an environmental concern or a green fad.

Saving energy is a personal security issue and a national security issue that we need to pay more attention to.

We all “gotta eat” and we all need to move around the country to “take care of business.”


My question for today is what are you doing to keep higher cost energy from wrecking your life style?
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lovestrees
Tacoma area, Washington USA
Posted: May 7, 2008, 11:51 AM CST
Hi Healthy Living,

I'm growing more food at home-( organic and real as well)

Going back to school to develop new green-energy sources/conservation.

Trying to get everyone in our country to CALL, WRITE AND E-MAIL our elected representatives/powerful selfish aristocrats to DEMAND IMMEDIATE MEANINGFUL CHANGE!!

Since "they" aren't acting, I am... micro-hydro-power, solar, wind, hydro-geneneraters for the car... food and housing co ops... suggestions?

LESS WASTE!
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: May 7, 2008, 12:31 PM CST
Why do health and lifestyle topics always seem to be full of scaremongering, complaints, warnings, doom and gloom?

Are there no GOOD, CHEERFUL, health news topics?

High cost energy doesn't wreck my lifestyle. If I want it and can afford it, I use it. If not I don't. Most people in the world are the same.

Anyone's lifestyle and how much energy they use is a personal choice, like using a washing machine, or dishwasher, or turning on 3 rings on the cooker, having an electric blanket, electric lights, tv, running a car or 5, electric toothbrush, or hot water for a bath or shower.

Growing a lettuce or two isn't impacting on that.

So gas/petrol is going up, so what? We create the demand for it.....

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Posted: May 7, 2008, 12:38 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
Why do health and lifestyle topics always seem to be full of scaremongering, complaints, warnings, doom and gloom?

Are there no GOOD, CHEERFUL, health news topics?

High cost energy doesn't wreck my lifestyle. If I want it and can afford it, I use it. If not I don't. Most people in the world are the same.

Anyone's lifestyle and how much energy they use is a personal choice, like using a washing machine, or dishwasher, or turning on 3 rings on the cooker, having an electric blanket, electric lights, tv, running a car or 5, electric toothbrush, or hot water for a bath or shower.

Growing a lettuce or two isn't impacting on that.

So gas/petrol is going up, so what? We create the demand for it.....


ginger.. I suppose you did not read the article at all. I guess you do not eat or feed your children. I know you are smarter than this. Why don't you find a cheerful health news topic and post it so we can comment on it? I will read the article you post before I comment on it.

Growing food has an impact on feeding your family, which you will soon not be able to afford to do. It's about survival. How will you survive in the comming days? Not a message of gloom, a message of prepardness. Are you preparing?

Now, lets hear some more ideas of what people are doing to prepare.

peace
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Posted: May 7, 2008, 12:47 PM CST
lovestrees wrote:
Hi Healthy Living,

I'm growing more food at home-( organic and real as well)

Going back to school to develop new green-energy sources/conservation.

Trying to get everyone in our country to CALL, WRITE AND E-MAIL our elected representatives/powerful selfish aristocrats to DEMAND IMMEDIATE MEANINGFUL CHANGE!!

Since "they" aren't acting, I am... micro-hydro-power, solar, wind, hydro-geneneraters for the car... food and housing co ops... suggestions?

LESS WASTE!


This is the kind of responses I am looking for here.

Very good tree hugger!!! As Always!!

Yes, we must educate ourselves and do our part, that we may survive. I just printed an article, "Build your own solar-powered
water pumping station". I have a well, and I am taking it off the grid, making it solar powered. It's easy to do and doesn't cost much. I am also looking at other ways to provide electricity... one of my resons for this post. I would like to exchange ideas with those who already have made the changes, to help me know what works well and what does not. Which PV panels work best, etc.

I will use my well to irrigate the gardens. I am also looking at converting my pumps in the water garden, to solar power. I am amazed at how easy the techniques are and inexpensive!

I will get with you privately and exchange some ideas.hug
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: May 7, 2008, 12:52 PM CST
HealthyLiving wrote:
ginger.. I suppose you did not read the article at all. I guess you do not eat or feed your children. I know you are smarter than this. Why don't you find a cheerful health news topic and post it so we can comment on it? I will read the article you post before I comment on it.

Growing food has an impact on feeding your family, which you will soon not be able to afford to do. It's about survival. How will you survive in the comming days? Not a message of gloom, a message of prepardness. Are you preparing?

Now, lets hear some more ideas of what people are doing to prepare.


I'm reading a lot of SUPPOSITION here on my personal lifestyle and whether I read the article........

Actually, just about the ONLY thing you got right, is, that I am smarter than this!!!!

I didn't make suppositions about you, not did I personally attack you. I talked IN GENERAL about THE TOPIC, and asked some relevant questions, which, by the way, weren't answered...........

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kkitty
Minnesota USA
Posted: May 7, 2008, 12:55 PM CST
HealthyLiving wrote:
This week crude oil futures hit another all time high of $112 a barrel. What did not make headlines is home heating oil is also at an all time high and gasoline is up and propane is up and diesel fuel is up and jet fuel is up.

Things are really looking up if you are invested in any of the above. But, for most of us, it means every thing we buy will be more expensive.

Someday it may take most of your paycheck to fuel up your ride.

If you buy something on the internet and have it delivered to your home, the higher cost of delivery truck fuel will make it more expensive. If the stuff you buy gets to the store by truck, the cost will be up. Air freight costs are going up too.

Higher prices for diesel tractor fuel mean higher cost for farm produce. Higher prices for propane means the cost of processing farm produce will be up. Higher oil prices will drive up fertilizer cost up for the farmer also.

The higher cost of growing corn means ethanol prices will be up.

Oh, I almost forgot natural gas prices are up also.

All these increasing energy prices impact the market price of just about everything we buy.

To protect our personal economic security we all need to take action to reduce the impact that increasing energy costs have on our lives.

Saving energy is not just an environmental concern or a green fad.

Saving energy is a personal security issue and a national security issue that we need to pay more attention to.

We all “gotta eat” and we all need to move around the country to “take care of business.”

My question for today is what are you doing to keep higher cost energy from wrecking your life style?
praying , recycling more spending less. what else can we do?
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Posted: May 7, 2008, 12:57 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
I'm reading a lot of SUPPOSITION here on my personal lifestyle and whether I read the article........

Actually, just about the ONLY thing you got right, is, that I am smarter than this!!!!

I don't want to get crossways with you ginger!!!

I had a purpose for this thread and I intend to keep it on track. At the end of the article is a Question. I am looking for responses to the question in particular. "What are you doing..." Not looking for a critique of how all health messages spread doom and gloom. Let's stay on topic. I will not answer your questions. I asked one question to which I would like others to respond to. I gave my reasons why in my above post to treehugger. Thank you.

I didn't make suppositions about you, not did I personally attack you. I talked IN GENERAL about THE TOPIC, and asked some relevant questions, which, by the way, weren't answered...........
hug
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Posted: May 7, 2008, 12:58 PM CST
Sorry, the post messed up, above, you will have to read between the lines, LOL. My comment to gingerb is somehow in the middle of her comment to me. Don't know what happened??dunno
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: May 7, 2008, 1:20 PM CST
Truth here is, that anyone who uses money to pay for anything is paying for transport. If you drink tea , coffee, light a fire, eat butter, jam, peanut butter,mangoes,,,,,,,, millions of daily foods, then you are paying for transport.

Unless you (general "you" here),kill and cure and preserve your own meat, grow your own cotton, and flax, rear your own wool and make your own jello, it will cost you in transport and energy, because someone else has to do that for you, and use resources to do it.

All this talk of doing it all ourselves is a load of hogwash unless we all want to go back to the dark ages and raise pigs in the kitchen.

What we need to look at is better ways to get the energy we use, or find new forms of energy, not to save antiquated energy systems. It's about moving forward.........
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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: May 7, 2008, 1:24 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
Truth here is, that anyone who uses money to pay for anything is paying for transport. If you drink tea , coffee, light a fire, eat butter, jam, peanut butter,mangoes,,,,,,,, millions of daily foods, then you are paying for transport.

Unless you (general "you" here),kill and cure and preserve your own meat, grow your own cotton, and flax, rear your own wool and make your own jello, it will cost you in transport and energy, because someone else has to do that for you, and use resources to do it.

All this talk of doing it all ourselves is a load of hogwash unless we all want to go back to the dark ages and raise pigs in the kitchen.

What we need to look at is better ways to get the energy we use, or find new forms of energy, not to save antiquated energy systems. It's about moving forward.........


Absolutely true. Except raising pigs in the kitchen. Well, there are allotments, etc.; during WWII there were Victory Gardens. But of course, no pigs. Ha, ha. On of my favorite old BBC shows is The Good Life--I'd love to do that, as long as there was still money for travel!!cheers
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: May 7, 2008, 1:27 PM CST
Portiea wrote:
Absolutely true. Except raising pigs in the kitchen. Well, there are allotments, etc.; during WWII there were Victory Gardens. But of course, no pigs. Ha, ha. On of my favorite old BBC shows is The Good Life--I'd love to do that, as long as there was still money for travel!!


I did it for nearly 10 years, believe me there is no money in it!!!!!rolling on the floor laughing
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Posted: May 7, 2008, 2:11 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
Truth here is, that anyone who uses money to pay for anything is paying for transport. If you drink tea , coffee, light a fire, eat butter, jam, peanut butter,mangoes,,,,,,,, millions of daily foods, then you are paying for transport.

Unless you (general "you" here),kill and cure and preserve your own meat, grow your own cotton, and flax, rear your own wool and make your own jello, it will cost you in transport and energy, because someone else has to do that for you, and use resources to do it.

All this talk of doing it all ourselves is a load of hogwash unless we all want to go back to the dark ages and raise pigs in the kitchen.

What we need to look at is better ways to get the energy we use, or find new forms of energy, not to save antiquated energy systems. It's about moving forward.........


All of what you say here is very good ginger. I agree totally, except for the hogwash paragraph. Every little bit we can each do, will surely help. What we can not do for ourselves, perhaps a neighbor can provide and share. Growing your own food supply is much healthier, not sprayed with pesticides and cost little, just your time. Something about picking a tomatoe from the garden and eating it right there, just makes me feel so good!! All of the produce makes me feel that way. I am basically a raw foodist. So the garden is very beneficial to me. I love sharing the produce with friends, and family, giving it away to less fortunate people... It is good for the soul. Also, gardening is good therapy.

In reference to your last paragraph, this is one of the most important things we need to do. Many other countries, such as Germany and Ireland, have a big headstart on the U.S. when it comes to using this technology. Combined, the two countries afore mentioned, provide 6% of the countries energy through alternative energy systems. Which I believe I read that this figure was one of the highest, worldwide.

Now, why should I wait for my country to provide me with this service, when they are too greedy and dependant on oil? I want to make a change NOW, not when they get good and ready. I would love to not have to pay an electric bill, would be tickled pink over it!! I do not think it's going back to the stoneage, but getting back to basics is a real good idea. We have caused so much destruction to the world, through so much technology, much pollution and death. I would rather live with just the basics, life is less hectic and you find values in the hard work and providing for yourself. A simple lifestyle is more my style.

To each his own, some people can not stand the solitude in country living. Myself, I hate the hustle and bustle of city life.

Good comment giner!!thumbs up
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