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Hypothetically.....President Obama




Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: May 8, 2008, 8:32 AM CST
Okay, hypothetically, if Obama wins the democratic nomination, and, hypothetically, wins the presidential election, is it possible for race to become a non-issue and that he will be judged on his performance alone? That is, will he ever be just the president, or will he always be the black president?

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Also, please be respectful of each others' opinions...handshake
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: May 8, 2008, 8:35 AM CST
I believe race will always be an issue in this country. In N.C. 92% of blacks voted for O'Bama. Do you really believe that wasn't based on skin color?? 92% of Americans are never in ageement on anything
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Zarah
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: May 8, 2008, 8:40 AM CST
Portiea wrote:
Okay, hypothetically, if Obama wins the democratic nomination, and, hypothetically, wins the presidential election, is it possible for race to become a non-issue and that he will be judged on his performance alone? That is, will he ever be just the president, or will he always be the black president?

Looking for thoughtful, considered, fair, and reasonable replies--Thanks

Also, please be respectful of each others' opinions...


As much as we would all like to say colour and religion is not noticed of course it is!!!

Which statement stands out more... a white, christian doctor today raped his patient

An arabic muslim doctor today raped his patient.....

Would they mention the white christian???? If in Arabia it would be reversed.........
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cristina
Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Posted: May 8, 2008, 8:41 AM CST
Portiea wrote:
Okay, hypothetically, if Obama wins the democratic nomination, and, hypothetically, wins the presidential election, is it possible for race to become a non-issue and that he will be judged on his performance alone? That is, will he ever be just the president, or will he always be the black president?

Looking for thoughtful, considered, fair, and reasonable replies--Thanks

Also, please be respectful of each others' opinions...


Well, at least Bush was bad and seems less clever than Obama. So, i guess people will have to consider that cleaning Bush's trash will not be an easy task.
So, luckily there was a VERY BAD president before the black one drinking
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fireliter
Allen Park, Michigan USA
Posted: May 8, 2008, 8:45 AM CST
what troubles me is how quiet the republicans are.

imagine if the voters stick to their gender and race and vote according to fact fact alone.
scares the bejesus outta me blues sigh
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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: May 8, 2008, 8:49 AM CST
fireliter wrote:
what troubles me is how quiet the republicans are.

imagine if the voters stick to their gender and race and vote according to fact fact alone.
scares the bejesus outta me


I think that if Colin Powell had run for president, years ago, and had won, that his race would have not been that much of an issue...because maybe it has more to do with the man than the race...?
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alabamabebe
Banks of the Warrior River, Alabama USA
Posted: May 8, 2008, 8:54 AM CST
fireliter wrote:
what troubles me is how quiet the republicans are.

imagine if the voters stick to their gender and race and vote according to fact fact alone.
scares the bejesus outta me


That's not going to happen, and you know it. 92% of the whites in this country are never going to vote for the white candidate solely based on color. The republicans are being quiet about the gender/race issue simply because it's a non-issue. There are way too many actual policy issues to focus on.
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: May 8, 2008, 8:56 AM CST
Portiea wrote:
I think that if Colin Powell had run for president, years ago, and had won, that his race would have not been that much of an issue...because maybe it has more to do with the man than the race...?




I'd vote for Colin Powell...in a new york minutethumbs up
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fireliter
Allen Park, Michigan USA
Posted: May 8, 2008, 8:58 AM CST
Portiea wrote:
I think that if Colin Powell had run for president, years ago, and had won, that his race would have not been that much of an issue...because maybe it has more to do with the man than the race...?


he would have gotten my vote. he displayed character throughout his time in the limelight.

my thoughts for the democrats is this, the"commander in chief "is the most important position that needs to be filled in the coming elections the rest of the issues are the responsibility of our legislative branch of government.
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kkitty
Minnesota, Minnesota USA
Posted: May 8, 2008, 9:01 AM CST
Portiea wrote:
Okay, hypothetically, if Obama wins the democratic nomination, and, hypothetically, wins the presidential election, is it possible for race to become a non-issue and that he will be judged on his performance alone? That is, will he ever be just the president, or will he always be the black president?

Looking for thoughtful, considered, fair, and reasonable replies--Thanks

Also, please be respectful of each others' opinions...


For me if he wins he will be the president. I hate it, that in our day and age people still focus on nationalities.

Honest i am all for woman gooooo Hillary cheering cheering
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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: May 8, 2008, 9:03 AM CST
fireliter wrote:
he would have gotten my vote. he displayed character throughout his time in the limelight.

my thoughts for the democrats is this, the"commander in chief "is the most important position that needs to be filled in the coming elections the rest of the issues are the responsibility of our legislative branch of government.



Is it possible that even if Americans try to get past it and focus on the issues and the man, rather than his race, the international media would continue to focus on it?
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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: May 8, 2008, 9:04 AM CST
kkitty wrote:
For me if he wins he will be the president. I hate it, that in our day and age people still focus on nationalities.

Honest i am all for woman gooooo Hillary
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 8, 2008, 9:09 AM CST
As a Newly elected Bahamian Primeminister once pointed out when asked about all those Deep changes that were about to happen:"Same Horse,Different Rider!!"rolling on the floor laughing professor grin dropping jaw
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cristina
Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Posted: May 8, 2008, 9:12 AM CST
[quote=kkitty]For me if he wins he will be the president. I hate it, that in our day and age people still focus on nationalities.

Honest i am all for woman gooooo Hillary[/quote

nationalities?conversing

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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: May 8, 2008, 9:19 AM CST
Conrad73 wrote:
As a Newly elected Bahamian Primeminister once pointed out when asked about all those Deep changes that were about to happen:"Same Horse,Different Rider!!"


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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: May 8, 2008, 9:20 AM CST
[quote=cristina]
kkitty wrote:
For me if he wins he will be the president. I hate it, that in our day and age people still focus on nationalities.

Honest i am all for woman gooooo Hillary[/quote

nationalities?


haven't you been to the land of the Amazons?wave laugh
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jlb684
Athens, Attica Greece
Posted: May 8, 2008, 9:23 AM CST
He will always be the first black president, just as Hillary would be the first woman president, and just as JFK was the first Irish Catholic president and so on. This, in my opinion, does not make this a racial statement, it is merely fact. And, so what?? Being the first in something because you happen to be of a different color or gender or religious faith does not mean that you were elected BECAUSE of this or IN SPITE OF this. I am excited and thrilled that the days of "Pale, male, Yale" may be finally broken in our country. My vote will be cast for the person that I think will best represent my viewpoints; the one who will be the best leader and best voice for our country in these most difficult times. My vote has never been "the white guy" even though it has always been for a white guy, until now. Yes, some may cast their vote according to race or gender, but I definitely do not think that this would be anything more than a very small minority of people. In a way, I feel that every time there is a "first black" (male or female) or "first woman" to achieve something in any endeavor (sports, politics, science, the arts, whatever the case), this is like the "small step for man, giant leap for mankind" statement. Each of these achievements is like another swing of an axe on the wall that otherwise divides us. It's slowly breaking and crumbling, but it is happening. Thankfully so.
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cristina
Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Posted: May 8, 2008, 9:29 AM CST
[quote=Portiea]
cristina wrote:


haven't you been to the land of the Amazons?


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Lorax68
monmouth, Oregon USA
Posted: May 8, 2008, 9:39 AM CST
I think this is a silly question. People who vote based on race or gender shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or have children. Or drive.

Obama represents a chance to bring new life to the democratic party by giving hope that change is possible to an entire generation, or two.
He does not accomplish this by being a specific skin color.
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kkitty
Minnesota, Minnesota USA
Posted: May 8, 2008, 9:43 AM CST
Lorax68 wrote:
I think this is a silly question. People who vote based on race or gender shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or have children. Or drive.

Obama represents a chance to bring new life to the democratic party by giving hope that change is possible to an entire generation, or two.
He does not accomplish this by being a specific skin color.













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