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Myanmar and China

Posted: May 8, 2008, 11:36 PM CST
Lionhearted1967 wrote:
You talking about the US or China?



Not to mention but these countries are qualitie. England, Germany, France, Swiss ..etc.
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Posted: May 8, 2008, 11:36 PM CST
Does anyone get this thread????? Or is it just me?dunno grin drinking
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Midship
Limerick, Limerick Ireland
Posted: May 8, 2008, 11:38 PM CST
Lionhearted1967 wrote:
Usually..the stuff that is imported is CRAP! and breaks! They design stuff to break so they can continue production.

All I am saying is I would see America take back some if it's manufacturing jobs. The stuff we have always stakes our reputation and defense contracts, Pharaceuticals stay here!!!!. Sheez!.. I'd would rather give Mexicans jobs south of the border to make toys and such instead of empowering a country like China who sends CRAP here and we do nothing and is trying to undermine our security and coincidentally is beefing up their military arsenal. Are we blind?


Exactamundo...stuff is designed to break...big companies make moneies from replacements!

Pharam companies stay in the US for many reasons.

I don't know if you meant to phrase the reasoning of giving the relocated jobs to Mexican Nationals the way you did confused
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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: May 8, 2008, 11:40 PM CST
Lionhearted1967 wrote:
Does anyone get this thread????? Or is it just me?


Well, I think it may have gotten off topic, talking about the quality of imported goods...?
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Posted: May 8, 2008, 11:47 PM CST
Midship wrote:
Exactamundo...stuff is designed to break...big companies make moneies from replacements!

Pharam companies stay in the US for many reasons.

I don't know if you meant to phrase the reasoning of giving the relocated jobs to Mexican Nationals the way you did


OH NOOOOOO!! You haven't read my other posts then. I would rather see jobs here than other countries and the independent businesses. There are some things that are in demand that yes..we could make here and we could have a competition between them. But as far as our golden eggs manufacturing that people say I like that "American made" stuff. We do all ourselves. Medicine too!

They are outsourcing medicine and people are dying..Come On! We import many insignificant items yet important from China. We have Mexicans crossing the borders in droves to be here because of jobs. Let them produce what we let China as far as inoculous stuff.

We need to take out base back too. I would rather give a Mexican a reason to stay in their own country that to come up here and take one of our jobs than give jobs to a country such as China who is REALLY not trustworthy..just me though...
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Posted: May 8, 2008, 11:48 PM CST
Portiea wrote:
Well, I think it may have gotten off topic, talking about the quality of imported goods...?


LOL..but I have a right to get off of topic..lo9l Anyway..it all meshes together..the topics that is...
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Posted: May 8, 2008, 11:57 PM CST
I guess what my thread is actually about is how no one gets the connection between Burma and Myanmar?


We have heard for weeks about Burma and China and the Olympics...


Did anyone realize that Myanmar is essensially Burma? Look it up!
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Posted: May 9, 2008, 12:00 AM CST
Lionhearted1967 wrote:
I guess what my thread is actually about is how no one gets the connection between Burma and Myanmar?We have heard for weeks about Burma and China and the Olympics...Did anyone realize that Myanmar is essensially Burma? Look it up!


Next door neighbors. Been hearing about the protests for weelks and possible boycotts and they rename the area. Essecially the same area the Chinese have been in the news for oppressong for weeks and nobody seems to say boo! I say...Flock China and say we pay their and all the other countries that we owe back and reclaim our country! We can do it eventually...if we don't we are Rome..lol
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Posted: May 9, 2008, 12:07 AM CST
violin <<<Nero

The fire has already been lit.
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Posted: May 9, 2008, 12:12 AM CST
Portiea wrote:
Well, I think it may have gotten off topic, talking about the quality of imported goods...?


LOL..I think I started that one but hey..that is part of the equation...thumbs up
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Posted: May 9, 2008, 12:55 AM CST
Lionhearted1967 wrote:
LOL..I think I started that one but hey..that is part of the equation...


I guess it is just me huh?..blushing dunno uh oh!
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Posted: May 9, 2008, 2:20 AM CST
No comment huh?...laugh nitey night!wave zzzz
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Posted: May 9, 2008, 4:14 AM CST
Burma or, officially,[1] the Union of Myanmar (Burmese: , pronounced [pjìdàunz? mj?mà nàin?ànd?`]), is the largest country by geographical area in mainland Southeast Asia.

The British began conquering Burma in 1824 and incorporated the country into the British Raj in 1886. Burma was administered as a province of British India until 1937 when it became a separate, self-governing colony. The country achieved independence from the United Kingdom on 4 January 1948, as the "Union of Burma." It became the "Socialist Republic of the Union of Burma" on 4 January 1974, before reverting to the "Union of Burma" on 23 September 1988. On 18 June 1989, the State Law and Order Restoration Council (SLORC) adopted the name "Union of Myanmar" for English transliteration. This controversial name change in English was not recognized by the opposition groups and many English-speaking nations, as the government which decreed it is unrecognized.

The country is bordered by China on the north, Laos on the east, Thailand on the southeast, Bangladesh on the west, and India on the northwest, with the Bay of Bengal to the southwest. One-third of Burma's total perimeter, 1,930 kilometres (1,199 mi), forms an uninterrupted coastline.

The country's diverse population has played a major role in defining its politics, history and demographics in modern times. Its political system remains under the tight control of SPDC, the military led government, since 1992, by Senior General Than Shwe. The military has dominated government since General Ne Win led a coup in 1962 that toppled the civilian government of U Nu. Part of the British Empire until 1948, Burma continues to struggle to mend its ethnic tensions. The country's culture, heavily influenced by neighbours, is based on Theravada Buddhism intertwined with local elements.

According to WIKIPEDIA conversing wave
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FloraFlora
auckland, Auckland New Zealand
Posted: May 9, 2008, 4:21 AM CST
Back to your first topic,

1 I think the whole world has paid a big attention to Myanmar, here New Zealand has already offered 1.5million $ to the UN to help.

2 People are buying stuff from China, because nowadays we are living in a free market. Demand is price elastic.

3 Of course you have the right to choose not buying"made in China".

4 The quality is not all determined by the factories in China, for example the OEM products are made on behalf the foreign companies. If you want to control the cost, then of course it's going to affect the quality.

& as the technology is improving, low cost will no longer be the main aim in the future.

It's what I think.I believe China is on track and will contribute more to the world.
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lorax111
richmond, Virginia USA
Posted: May 9, 2008, 7:31 AM CST


Products made in America are not always quality products. I have an american built car and it has leaked as much oil as the USS Valdese. It leaks everything water ,oil ,trans ,steering ,air heck I think I saw some blinker fluid the other day.
I however did buy domestic and I support the american product. I would rather buy local crap than forein crap.


In China there is slavery, they import workers with prommises of wealth for their familys. Then give them jobs that pay less than the cost of living. The companys hold their pasports to keep them in check. If they don't work then they are jailed for not having a pasport.

But I digress, In Burma (myanmar) The weather service anounced the huricane was on its way but seriously downplayed the danger. If I read correctly they said to expect 35mph winds. I must ask why would they do that?



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Posted: May 9, 2008, 8:13 AM CST
mastic55 wrote:
Maybe China see the U.S response to Hurricane Katrina and figured it would take us 50 years to get to China.


more along the lines China knows if allowed in it would take America fifty years to get out..or morerolling on the floor laughing
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lorax111
richmond, Virginia USA
Posted: May 10, 2008, 8:15 PM CST
There are some F-uped things going on in Burma. The more I learn the more unsettled I become.



(the people are still called burmese, hence Burma. ,, Myanmar is half of the real name for the country in the native toungue. It is also an insistant request from a meglomainiac to bow to his seperiority and call the country what he has named it)

Dennis
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voldoll
over the rainbow, Tennessee USA
Posted: May 13, 2008, 9:15 AM CST
Lionhearted1967 wrote:
LMAO>> I got o9ff subject but... Why isn't the world qhestioning why China..(a major trader with and normally they would want to be on our good side for trade seems to be without worry?) If we stopped trade with them today we would leave something for them to think about. I dunno if you could ever trust anyway but they really do depend on this hemisphere to survive..



I think China is trying to kill us!!!....I'm afraid to buy ANYTHING made in China. I look at the label of everything I buy and if it is made in China, I won't buy it unless it is the only one of that product available and I desperately need it....haven't been desperate for anything so far...










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ooby_dooby
Ashland, Virginia USA
Posted: May 13, 2008, 12:26 PM CST
A little history according to me.

After WWII Japan was pretty much a broken country with millions of hungry people. American entrepreneurs went there with raw materials and blueprints and opened factories to make use of this vast cheap workforce. The Japanese used the raw materials and technology from the west and manufactured goods (mostly very low quality crap) which was shipped back to America to feed a booming economy. The problem was the Japanese workforce was mostly agrarian (farming) and didn't have the skill or machinery to produce high quality products. This is why the label "Made in Japan" came to mean garbage.
Japanese are nothing if not fast learners and in time products from Japan exceeded the quality of American made goods at a much lower price. Just look at Toyota and Mazda and almost everything electronic.
During this post WWII period the US was able to grow like a weed because in a roundabout way it was engaging in a subtle form of slavery. After Japan came Taiwan, South Korea, India, Thailand, Pakistan, China and many others.
Wherever there is a poor population willing to work for peanuts, we will put them to work and reap the benefits of their back breaking labor. If they insist of having babies by the dozen, allow a corrupt government to dominate them or fail to take hold of their destiny then we will enslave them..... voluntarily of course. Hell, we did it to our own people back in the 20's during the depression. Read "The Grapes of Wrath" and you'll see how it worked.

As far as taking back our lost manufacturing jobs: It's not possible! Not with unions and having to provide medical insurance and retirement and clean safe work places and paying people $18.00 an hour when a 13 YO in China will do it for 50 cents a day and no benefits whatever. It's a very romantic idea but a pipe dream. Here is an example of what I'm talking about.

American made socket set from Sears:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00974151000P
cost $471.99

Chinese made socket set:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47902
cost $4.49
Any questions?
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: May 13, 2008, 12:33 PM CST
Maybe we should learn not to interfere when we are told no. Hey..if they don't want our help...someone else does. The U.S. has a proud history of forcing it'self on other people and cultures. Plus if we help thses people, there is less money to kill Iraqis with. We DO have our priorities, you know!!
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