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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 14, 2008, 6:42 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
He gave you a boner Conrad. Do you know what a boner means in America?
THAT'S WHAT YOU THINK!!!!!You really think I am FUCKING stupidrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing





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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 14, 2008, 6:47 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
He gave you a boner Conrad. Do you know what a boner means in America?
Learn German and you MIGHT get it.
So far none of you has gotten it.
PS: I am sure glad I have never been out of that Little Backward Country of mine. BooHooblues moping mumbling uh oh!





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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: May 14, 2008, 7:18 PM CST
Dont let the very serious matter a bout late Madam D.C to be forgotten!

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/1517

http://digg.com/politics/The_DC_Madam_was_Murdered_2

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/tarpon-springs-fl/TI31QJ3MAAGUO6BK1

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2008/04/dc-madam-trial.html

http://uncoverthenews.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=1829

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kate-clinton/yes-they-can_b_99800.html

http://www.newser.com/story/27333.html

Plus a lot more to read a bout this true Bomb under the whole Reoublican stablishment for years to come!

I dis respect liers and Crooks and I can not even accept what ever explanation a bout late Madam D.C comitted suicide! I am happy I am truely not alone on this and wanted so much this woman being able to tell more!

The whole current stablishment of dishonesty and those whom telling all of us to "behave" and those whom hide their ugly horrible faces behind the flag to deceive us all and keeping us pre occupied by bull shit ......did it a gain!

There is no need to Search more!

Digg a bout Madam D.C and the whole matter of whose the one to trust will be settled easy and smooth!

Michael Moore ........your turn One more time to reveil the truth!

I love Action!


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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 15, 2008, 3:37 AM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Dont let the very serious matter a bout late Madam D.C to be forgotten!

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/1517

http://digg.com/politics/The_DC_Madam_was_Murdered_2

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/tarpon-springs-fl/TI31QJ3MAAGUO6BK1

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2008/04/dc-madam-trial.html

http://uncoverthenews.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=1829

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kate-clinton/yes-they-can_b_99800.html

http://www.newser.com/story/27333.html

Plus a lot more to read a bout this true Bomb under the whole Reoublican stablishment for years to come!

I dis respect liers and Crooks and I can not even accept what ever explanation a bout late Madam D.C comitted suicide! I am happy I am truely not alone on this and wanted so much this woman being able to tell more!

The whole current stablishment of dishonesty and those whom telling all of us to "behave" and those whom hide their ugly horrible faces behind the flag to deceive us all and keeping us pre occupied by bull shit ......did it a gain!

There is no need to Search more!

Digg a bout Madam D.C and the whole matter of whose the one to trust will be settled easy and smooth!

Michael Moore ........your turn One more time to reveil the truth!

I love Action!
Damn,Dude you like SMUTD'oh! dropping jaw sticking out tongue





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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: May 15, 2008, 5:32 AM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Dont let the very serious matter a bout late Madam D.C to be forgotten!

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/1517

http://digg.com/politics/The_DC_Madam_was_Murdered_2

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/tarpon-springs-fl/TI31QJ3MAAGUO6BK1

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2008/04/dc-madam-trial.html

http://uncoverthenews.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=1829

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kate-clinton/yes-they-can_b_99800.html

http://www.newser.com/story/27333.html

Plus a lot more to read a bout this true Bomb under the whole Reoublican stablishment for years to come!

I dis respect liers and Crooks and I can not even accept what ever explanation a bout late Madam D.C comitted suicide! I am happy I am truely not alone on this and wanted so much this woman being able to tell more!

The whole current stablishment of dishonesty and those whom telling all of us to "behave" and those whom hide their ugly horrible faces behind the flag to deceive us all and keeping us pre occupied by bull shit ......did it a gain!

There is no need to Search more!

Digg a bout Madam D.C and the whole matter of whose the one to trust will be settled easy and smooth!

Michael Moore ........your turn One more time to reveil the truth!

I love Action!


Huffington Post..........rolling on the floor laughing





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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: May 15, 2008, 5:33 AM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
I will come and visit you in mental Hospital and giving you free therapy as well Indyfella...when Obama becomes the next president



All therapy should be free, shouldn't it. That's no bargain. laugh





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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: May 15, 2008, 5:35 AM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/edwards-to-endo.html

gosh I like this senator Edwards because of his endless trying doign some thing a gainst poverty both inside the country but in other countries as well....he hates wars and he knows why! I wished for his endorsement since "Obama for president Too" and now all waitng is over!!!!!!!!

Ty Princess for this great news.......You are a ture messanger of smile!


As an ambulance chaser, he's earned his millions. I vote that he give 90% of the money he's "earned" back to the poor.





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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 15, 2008, 7:07 AM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Dont let the very serious matter a bout late Madam D.C to be forgotten!

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/1517

http://digg.com/politics/The_DC_Madam_was_Murdered_2

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/tarpon-springs-fl/TI31QJ3MAAGUO6BK1

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2008/04/dc-madam-trial.html

http://uncoverthenews.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=1829

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kate-clinton/yes-they-can_b_99800.html

http://www.newser.com/story/27333.html

Plus a lot more to read a bout this true Bomb under the whole Reoublican stablishment for years to come!

I dis respect liers and Crooks and I can not even accept what ever explanation a bout late Madam D.C comitted suicide! I am happy I am truely not alone on this and wanted so much this woman being able to tell more!

The whole current stablishment of dishonesty and those whom telling all of us to "behave" and those whom hide their ugly horrible faces behind the flag to deceive us all and keeping us pre occupied by bull shit ......did it a gain!

There is no need to Search more!

Digg a bout Madam D.C and the whole matter of whose the one to trust will be settled easy and smooth!

Michael Moore ........your turn One more time to reveil the truth!

I love Action!
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell,ain't that QUAINT!!!!
Only Republicans sleep around!!!
Democrats are EXTREMELY FAITHFUL!!!
Sure Glad Billy-Boy was a REPROCRATrolling on the floor laughing
Whatever you want to know,just ask him!!!!!!dancing banana





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Sparky55
Prattville, Alabama USA
Posted: May 15, 2008, 8:15 AM CST
Conrad73 wrote:
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell,ain't that QUAINT!!!!
Only Republicans sleep around!!!
Democrats are EXTREMELY FAITHFUL!!!
Sure Glad Billy-Boy was a REPROCRAT
Whatever you want to know,just ask him!!!!!!


That is not fair Conrad. I believe Bill cleared that all up when he said something along the lines of "I really didn't think that it was sex at the time" or words to that affect. laugh

I do suspect however that he would not have felt that way had he walked in on Hillary while she was providing a similar service on someone.





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Sparky55
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Posted: May 15, 2008, 8:22 AM CST
Indyfella wrote:
As an ambulance chaser, he's earned his millions. I vote that he give 90% of the money he's "earned" back to the poor.


What's he doing supporting Obama. He needs to get his ass back out and help those thousands of poor homeless veterans sleeping under bridges. Edwards and Clinton, the only two people I can think of that are actually worse than Obama.

JMHLO





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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: May 15, 2008, 8:23 AM CST
To Dude,

Politics is like a tabloid magazine. If it is sleazy and low...specially
if it on the other guy or his party it is fair game. Of course if it is on Obama.....the man that was raised with milk and honey as a pure lamb in the ugly world of American politics.....then it is a different matter. Then it is racism.

So in Dude's world of politics......he can either call you low and sleazy or he can call you a racist. This is the game that the far left has been
playing since the campaign began.

While Obama may want to talk issues in a serious note. His supporters
wish to play the game in the mud. Meaning that they don't have good issues and solid facts to them or that is basically where they are in life.

Too them real issues like the economy, like the Iraq war, like oil prices, like pro life, like the deterance of terrorism, like global matters of importance, are basically matters that can be solved in the mud. Thier idea of spirituality and the higher purposes of man....can be found in their recent treatment of Jenna Bush's marriage on Kos. Where someone posted her wedding photos along side brutal photos of the Iraq war. This what they consider 'fair political play'.

The recent vote in WV maybe is a wake up call for the far left. In the post vote polls, the issue of race effected the vote of 29% of the
mostly white voters of the state. 30% of the Democratic voters said they would vote for McCain and another 35% said they would consider it. Sure while WV is a small sample of America.....it is the most recent
sampling to this campain. How many supporters of Barak in past primaries would still hold to him in the fall? When the far left has played its American politics in such a manner? My bet is that WV is a good indication here.

If Barak fails in his attempt for the Presidency with the amount of voting support he had at the beginning of the primaries. It can be for only one reason.

The American voter did not like who he was associating with and did not like the kind of change and hope the far left was offering by his Presdiency. Barak may not have this distrust, hatred, sleazy and unkind of politics in him. But his supporters do.

The American voter knows that when they elect a President, they also place into office, men and women of his association and choosing to run thier government and its agencies. In this case those offices will be held by persons with far left leanings, this general dislike and disregard for America and what it is.

If Barak loses, it will because the far left has brought him down to thier level of politics, to thier thinking of the American life and dream,
to thier opinion of thier fellow Americans. The sooner he disassociates... if he can with the far left.....the better his chances to win the Presidency are....in my opinion his only real chance to win the Presidency is with this disassociation.

The sad thing is that the Far left, like Dude, don't realize that they are
doing it to him. To them posting Jenna Bush wedding photos in such a
manner is just making political comment. That it does. But it makes several comments.....one on the war in Iraq, the means spirit of Barak's supporters, and kind of wedding the Bush's would have for thier daughter.....it makes all those comments and shows vast difference in thinking between the far left and middle road America.

One of those comments is very negative directly back to Barak. The other two have little impact on McCain or Hillary. So as said.....the far left will kill Obama's chances. I have said it in the past and say it again.






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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: May 15, 2008, 8:36 AM CST
Sparky55 wrote:
That is not fair Conrad. I believe Bill cleared that all up when he said something along the lines of "I really didn't think that it was sex at the time" or words to that affect.

I do suspect however that he would not have felt that way had he walked in on Hillary while she was providing a similar service on someone.
thumbs up





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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: May 15, 2008, 8:39 AM CST
Sparky55 wrote:
What's he doing supporting Obama. He needs to get his ass back out and help those thousands of poor homeless veterans sleeping under bridges. Edwards and Clinton, the only two people I can think of that are actually worse than Obama.

JMHLO


I noted that Edwards did not say word one of the MI and FL Dem voter issue. Quiet as a church mouse.

These guys all know how to make political comment....sad they can
not make political positions of importance to the country and its people.





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Sparky55
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Posted: May 15, 2008, 9:11 AM CST
ttom500 wrote:
I noted that Edwards did not say word one of the MI and FL Dem voter issue. Quiet as a church mouse.

These guys all know how to make political comment....sad they can
not make political positions of importance to the country and its people.


It's been mentioned in these threads before that the DNC should have worked with those states to come to a solution and vice versa. Whether the tables would have been turned in favor of Clinton or not is moot at this point since those two state's citizens don't get a say in who their candidate is. This potentially will have a negative impact on the eventual nominee. I'm not from either of those 2 states so it doesn't concern me but if I had my vote taken away, I would be pissed off. No telling what they (the voters) will do, if anything but it could be bad.

This is of course not Obama's or Clinton's fault. This is the party in general and the DNC more specifically. It is interesting however how both Clinton and Obama have tried to fight for those state's rights to vote or not fought. I guess it all depends on where one is in the standings and those people are smart enough to figure that out.





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opalbeauty
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Posted: May 15, 2008, 9:57 AM CST
ttom500 wrote:
To Dude,


While Obama may want to talk issues in a serious note. His supporters
wish to play the game in the mud. Meaning that they don't have good issues and solid facts to them or that is basically where they are in life.

Too them real issues like the economy, like the Iraq war, like oil prices, like pro life, like the deterance of terrorism, like global matters of importance, are basically matters that can be solved in the mud. Thier idea of spirituality and the higher purposes of man....can be found in their recent treatment of Jenna Bush's marriage on Kos. Where someone posted her wedding photos along side brutal photos of the Iraq war. This what they consider 'fair political play'.



If Barak loses, it will because the far left has brought him down to thier level of politics, to thier thinking of the American life and dream,
to thier opinion of thier fellow Americans. The sooner he disassociates... if he can with the far left.....the better his chances to win the Presidency are....in my opinion his only real chance to win the Presidency is with this disassociation.

So as said.....the far left will kill Obama's chances. I have said it in the past and say it again.


Oh my, this is from the man who just can't stop talking about Rev. Wright until it is so old nobody wants to hear it anymore. Then he wants to assume he knows more than anyone in the Military and Pentagon about what is going to happen if we leave Iraq....there is no other solutions....they will get their hands on a nuke and bomb Isreal....talking about black and white thinking. I think we have a little more surveillance and air power than you even want to consider.
Atleast Obama is not singing bomb Iran and talking about staying for 100 years. And you are even admitting his diplomacy and leadership skills. And as far as the ecomony, there is nothing new. McCain embraced Bush's policies to get support from the elite, I mean his base.

TT, there will be plenty intelligent people endorsing Obama even republicans but I wouldn't expect neo-cons to endorse him they are the true down fall of America, but tt don't like hearing the truth. Just yesterday he received three endorsement from three former U.S. SEC chairmen, and one was a republican....


WARREN, Mich, May 14 (Reuters) - Three former chairmen of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission endorsed Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Wednesday, bolstering the Illinois senator's economic credentials and bipartisan appeal as he closes in on his party's nomination.

Former SEC head William Donaldson, who was appointed by Republican President George W. Bush, joined Arthur Levitt and David Ruder in backing Obama, who leads rival Hillary Clinton in the number of delegates necessary to become the Democratic White House nominee.

Levitt was appointed by former President Bill Clinton, a Democrat, while Ruder was appointed by former President Ronald Reagan, a Republican.

All three commended Obama for his approach to regulation.

"Each of us has been committed to prudent economic policy and effective financial regulation for many years," they said in a joint statement along with former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, also an Obama supporter.

"We believe Senator Obama can provide the positive leadership and judgment needed to take us to a stronger and more secure economic future."

In the statement they praised Obama's "reasoned approach" in analyzing "the current financial crisis and the need for balanced regulatory reform." Continued...







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ttom500
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Posted: May 15, 2008, 10:08 AM CST
Sparky55 wrote:
It's been mentioned in these threads before that the DNC should have worked with those states to come to a solution and vice versa. Whether the tables would have been turned in favor of Clinton or not is moot at this point since those two state's citizens don't get a say in who their candidate is. This potentially will have a negative impact on the eventual nominee. I'm not from either of those 2 states so it doesn't concern me but if I had my vote taken away, I would be pissed off. No telling what they (the voters) will do, if anything but it could be bad.

This is of course not Obama's or Clinton's fault. This is the party in general and the DNC more specifically. It is interesting however how both Clinton and Obama have tried to fight for those state's rights to vote or not fought. I guess it all depends on where one is in the standings and those people are smart enough to figure that out.


Personally, if I was a FL Dem, which I am not, if after this coming DNC rules meeting on the 31st, if it is not resolved.....I would be taking it to court. It is just politics at this point. Both sides are trying to use the
FL Dem voter and the Fl Primary to thier advantage. So take it to court and have a litigated resolution. Just my opinion there.....and as Dude has said.....you don't advice from a political opponet.:-)

Sure the DNC messed this up at the beginning. Neither canidate had the foresight to say so and to get it changed then. So I hold the both candidates accountable on this. This is thier party and they speak volumes in it. This is thier Presidential campaign and thier organizations. If they have so little power, or do little respect from within thier own party, so little ability to compromise......not to be able to resolve this....what does that say?

Want either to sign the next set of Salt agreement with Russia? Or to
negotiate a resolution of the Tiawan/China issue? Or to muck around in the Middle East peace talks? I feel pretty strongly, you need to be able to do it at home, prior to being able to do it outside the country.

In 15 months of this issue on MI and FL, they have not reached a resolution.....tells me that if either is elected.....it would be 4 years before any major international issue is resolved. These are much more complicated issues than what they have now. Now they have Democracy 101 high school civics class notes to go by. In the international world of those kinds of negotiations and accords.....you write the advanced 500 college level course testbook on them as you negotiate.





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ttom500
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Posted: May 15, 2008, 10:28 AM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
Oh my, this is from the man who just can't stop talking about Rev. Wright until it is so old nobody wants to hear it anymore. Then he wants to assume he knows more than anyone in the Military and Pentagon about what is going to happen if we leave Iraq....there is no other solutions....they will get their hands on a nuke and bomb Isreal....talking about black and white thinking. I think we have a little more surveillance and air power than you even want to consider.
Atleast Obama is not singing bomb Iran and talking about staying for 100 years. And you are even admitting his diplomacy and leadership skills. And as far as the ecomony, there is nothing new. McCain embraced Bush's policies to get support from the elite, I mean his base.

TT, there will be plenty intelligent people endorsing Obama even republicans but I wouldn't expect neo-cons to endorse him they are the true down fall of America, but tt don't like hearing the truth. Just yesterday he received three endorsement from three former U.S. SEC chairmen, and one was a republican....WARREN, Mich, May 14 (Reuters) - Three former chairmen of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission endorsed Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Wednesday, bolstering the Illinois senator's economic credentials and bipartisan appeal as he closes in on his party's nomination.

Former SEC head William Donaldson, who was appointed by Republican President George W. Bush, joined Arthur Levitt and David Ruder in backing Obama, who leads rival Hillary Clinton in the number of delegates necessary to become the Democratic White House nominee.

Levitt was appointed by former President Bill Clinton, a Democrat, while Ruder was appointed by former President Ronald Reagan, a Republican.

All three commended Obama for his approach to regulation.

"Each of us has been committed to prudent economic policy and effective financial regulation for many years," they said in a joint statement along with former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, also an Obama supporter.

"We believe Senator Obama can provide the positive leadership and judgment needed to take us to a stronger and more secure economic future."

In the statement they praised Obama's "reasoned approach" in analyzing "the current financial crisis and the need for balanced regulatory reform." Continued...


I have yet to hear who Barak would have in Cabinet or his VP. Maybe those endorsements will be pulled after they are announced. Endorsement are like water.....they change direction. And there was no word in my post of Rev. Wright. It was the far left in general I tagged in there as his down fall.

Why? Because that mod road and mid road American voter.....does not daily spend his/her time make connections to endorsement of Rep, Dem or Ind. He does not have time to. He get his info from a news show......that gives a 5 second blurt...of a Wright, a Ayers, a far left post like that on Kos recently. And he comes to the same conclusions that the voters in WV did. The far left has supplied the ammo on Obama, Opal.

Personally, I think that it sad that it happened.







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opalbeauty
Worcester County USA
Posted: May 15, 2008, 11:01 AM CST
They preferred a white woman to a black man with the name Obama.
They preferred a Clinton. it's called ignorance and I know for a fact there is still a lot of racism in the South.
The truth is the truth about where they are coming from and nobody is going to change it until they get more education. And when they become educated they will make the time to get more informed than a 5 second blurt, but I do agree that is what many of the uneducated do.
They are more easily led and manipulated and exploited by people like Karl Rove.

And tt, you should know by now that I'm no fool. You play some dirty politics and then turn it around and say it is Dude and the Democratic party. You have been trying so hard in every one of these threads to associate and hold Obama accountable for what Rev. Wright has said and so has sparky. But it's not working for you. Even when these SEC chairman praise his judgement, of course that is only for a politcal favor in your opinion. You have even tried to use Obama's early years in school to link him to being a muslim extremist. It doesn't take a genuis to figure out what you have been trying to do yourself. We really don't take it that personal and now you're flipflopping but that's okay too. Because we expect a lot more dirty politcs to come from the Republican's when needed.





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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: May 15, 2008, 11:17 AM CST
Since most of the thread participants seem to have a interest in the American gov't and its nuclear weapons programs. The following story is one that you might be interest in..

It is a about a Italian/American that was made a secret agent during
WWII. His assignment was to be the security agent for Dr. Fermi. Dr. Fermi was the man that discovered nuclear fission and gave it to the
American gov't. Fermi also was a close personal friend of Einstien.

There is a story of how Fermi and Einstien both ask this agent to do thier Federal income taxes.......because he was a lawyer. Neither then could figure the tax codes out. Imagine that the world best two nuclear phyist of the day....and they cannot figure thier income taxes.
out! :-) They should try ours today!

The article has such others in it as....Kate Heburn, Truman,
Oppenheimer, General Groves, and others that were involved
with the Manhattan project.....the invention of the Atomic bomb.

It is a good read.

It will give some back ground on the depth American Gov't security can be for a Manhattan project. What lengths they were willing to take then to defend the country. How they even talk of murdering a British subject in it. That they later caught spying for the Russians.

Site is:

http://www.newspaperarchive/MyStory/MauriceStamps/Story/aspx







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Sparky55
Prattville, Alabama USA
Posted: May 15, 2008, 11:20 AM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
They preferred a white woman to a black man with the name Obama.
They preferred a Clinton. it's called ignorance and I know for a fact there is still a lot of racism in the South.
The truth is the truth about where they are coming from and nobody is going to change it until they get more education. And when they become educated they will make the time to get more informed than a 5 second blurt, but I do agree that is what many of the uneducated do.
They are more easily led and manipulated and exploited by people like Karl Rove.

And tt, you should know by now that I'm no fool. You play some dirty politics and then turn it around and say it is Dude and the Democratic party. You have been trying so hard in every one of these threads to associate and hold Obama accountable for what Rev. Wright has said and so has sparky. But it's not working for you. Even when these SEC chairman praise his judgement, of course that is only for a politcal favor in your opinion. You have even tried to use Obama's early years in school to link him to being a muslim extremist. It doesn't take a genuis to figure out what you have been trying to do yourself. We really don't take it that personal and now you're flipflopping but that's okay too. Because we expect a lot more dirty politcs to come from the Republican's when needed.


Opal, that is not true. I have held Obama accountable for his poor judgement in allowing himself a 20 year association with Rev Wright. There's a huge difference between that and holding him accountable for what Rev Wright says. He can no more control Rev Wright than I can but he could have controlled what he participated in and who he associated with. It wasn't until Rev Wright caused him some serious damage that he finally ended the relationship. By his actions or lack thereof he condoned what Wright has said for many year. Perhaps he agreed things being said and perhaps not. One would imply he's less than fair in his view of racial issues, the other would imply he's not smart enough to recognize racism. Either brings him into question.





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