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Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: May 16, 2008, 4:10 PM CST
ttom500 wrote:
Polisi went to the middle east...and the Isreali nearly broke relationship with us over her handling of it and her comments...."We can peace in the Middle East" after misrepresenting the Isreali positions.

J. Carter goes to the middle east and say "We can have peace in the
middle east if everyone retruns to pre 1967 borders." Postions he knows that Isreal has rejected many times. Hamas was firing rockets into Isreal before he landed.

Real positive movements on the peace front. Other than appeasing both ASsyad and the Hamas leader what was accomplished? Really
all they did was to messed up was C. Rice's peace talks and confused the issues.

But to be fair, I will give you chance......list 3 positive things that came from each of thier visits in the middle east.

Polisi

1.

2.

3.

Carter

1.

2.

3.


Well....... I tell it shorlty........

After Polesi talked to Syrinas there has been several indirect talking between Israel and Syria and Israeli decision makers has rejected all of those and beside they made an attack a gainst Syria which destroyed a lot stuff ...... No body was killed and the place they attacked was old and not used for nay thing any more but still it was symbolichally wrong and a silly attack when the two countries ar enot in direst war any way.

After Carter talked to hamas there has been several cease fire suggestions from Hamas and rejected by Israelies as usual.

In my eyes if those meetings were supported by american and Israeli decision makers then we would all see a huge amount of positive results in the direction of peace in the whole area but the reality is far from that unfortunatily!

Of course "Israel" Acted as they Broked with US after Polesi,s visit! i am sure Olmert sent a hot sms to Bush and asked him what to do and Bush ordered him to Act being really really angrylaugh

Israel Broke with USA? Never Ever! Israel can never ever survive with out USA on its side........and beside.....

Dont Call the Govenment of Israel alone the whole nation of Israel! If you dont know this already and I am sure you know, Most Israelies want a peace treaty here and now and even negotiations with any body a bout that and most Israelies are a gaist both Bush and Olmert as well. We are talking a bout two Really unpoular leaders from Israel and america whom have this thing is common...they are on power evne most of their own people want them to get the hell out!

I am sure the whole region can live in peace and harmony much easier than it seems if good decision makes are in the White House and in Israel as well. Lets wait and see whom is going to take over after this thief.... Olmert dude is gone!





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opalbeauty
Worcester County, Massachusetts USA
Posted: May 16, 2008, 4:18 PM CST
ttom500 wrote:
I think you got a pretty good odds to that.


I think French is on board or cut a deal with America but Putin says....

Putin: American attack on Iran will be viewed as an attack on Russia atimes.com — The barely reported highlight of Russian President Vladimir Putin's visit to Tehran for the Caspian Sea summit last week was a key face-to-face meeting with Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Russia will probably supply Iran with a few nukes.


ttom, you laugh so easily but do you realize how ugly this can get?
Russia and China have became very friendly also.





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opalbeauty
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Posted: May 16, 2008, 4:23 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Well....... I tell it shorlty........

After Polesi talked to Syrinas there has been several indirect talking between Israel and Syria and Israeli decision makers has rejected all of those and beside they made an attack a gainst Syria which destroyed a lot stuff ...... No body was killed and the place they attacked was old and not used for nay thing any more but still it was symbolichally wrong and a silly attack when the two countries ar enot in direst war any way.

After Carter talked to hamas there has been several cease fire suggestions from Hamas and rejected by Israelies as usual.

In my eyes if those meetings were supported by american and Israeli decision makers then we would all see a huge amount of positive results in the direction of peace in the whole area but the reality is far from that unfortunatily!

Of course "Israel" Acted as they Broked with US after Polesi,s visit! i am sure Olmert sent a hot sms to Bush and asked him what to do and Bush ordered him to Act being really really angry

Israel Broke with USA? Never Ever! Israel can never ever survive with out USA on its side........and beside.....

Dont Call the Govenment of Israel alone the whole nation of Israel! If you dont know this already and I am sure you know, Most Israelies want a peace treaty here and now and even negotiations with any body a bout that and most Israelies are a gaist both Bush and Olmert as well. We are talking a bout two Really unpoular leaders from Israel and america whom have this thing is common...they are on power evne most of their own people want them to get the hell out!

I am sure the whole region can live in peace and harmony much easier than it seems if good decision makes are in the White House and in Israel as well. Lets wait and see whom is going to take over after this thief.... Olmert dude is gone!


ttom would rather appease the dictators Bush and Olmert





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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: May 16, 2008, 4:28 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
I am not agree with you defeniton either ......

Tell me short as possible Why then? What were the main reasons a bout 9/11 attacks?


Bin Laden desire is to return Islam to a caliph sytle government of the 1500-1700s. 9/11 fits into this by creating a global jahid across all of Islam against the west. It was a kick off attack to accomplish this.

But it has gone astray. He thought that massive numbers would join
in the jahid. But that has not happened. Hence just about everyone of his videos is a recruiting video for more to join. He needs numbers to accomplish this. These numbers have not materialized.

Noticed how often he talks of this pan Islam movement? How often he talks of the Suadi royal family's corruption? How often he talks of Islamic unity? All flowered into the Koranic verses?

9/11 was not about American policies. To a lesser degree the US deployed forces in the Middle east do have a bearing....only that his desire is to remove them to have this pan Islam occur.

Pretty delusional stuff. Caliph governments were the most fundamental Islamic known to man. They fought against the
Christian Crusaders in the middle ages. But with the advent of nation states in middle east......it was history. Should be left there, but
bin Laden see a means thru jahid to bring it back.





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opalbeauty
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Posted: May 16, 2008, 4:38 PM CST
ttom500 wrote:
Bin Laden desire is to return Islam to a caliph sytle government of the 1500-1700s. 9/11 fits into this by creating a global jahid across all of Islam against the west. It was a kick off attack to accomplish this.

But it has gone astray. He thought that massive numbers would join
in the jahid. But that has not happened. Hence just about everyone of his videos is a recruiting video for more to join. He needs numbers to accomplish this. These numbers have not materialized.

Noticed how often he talks of this pan Islam movement? How often he talks of the Suadi royal family's corruption? How often he talks of Islamic unity? All flowered into the Koranic verses?

9/11 was not about American policies. To a lesser degree the US deployed forces in the Middle east do have a bearing....only that his desire is to remove them to have this pan Islam occur.

Pretty delusional stuff. Caliph governments were the most fundamental Islamic known to man. They fought against the
Christian Crusaders in the middle ages. But with the advent of nation states in middle east......it was history. Should be left there, but
bin Laden see a means thru jahid to bring it back.


after 9/11 the US had the goodwill of all the world. If Gore had been president we would have gone into Alphganistan and most likely brought OsamaBinforgotten to justice. He is not against Jews but I don't think he would have had all those zionist in his cabinet wanting to go to war on Iraq, Iran, Syria. tttom can you even say mistake?
Osamabinforgotten wanted to bring America to it's knees and Bush has played right into his hands. I think Bush is as delusional as BinLaden.





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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: May 16, 2008, 4:48 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Well....... I tell it shorlty........

After Polesi talked to Syrinas there has been several indirect talking between Israel and Syria and Israeli decision makers has rejected all of those and beside they made an attack a gainst Syria which destroyed a lot stuff ...... No body was killed and the place they attacked was old and not used for nay thing any more but still it was symbolichally wrong and a silly attack when the two countries ar enot in direst war any way.

After Carter talked to hamas there has been several cease fire suggestions from Hamas and rejected by Israelies as usual.

In my eyes if those meetings were supported by american and Israeli decision makers then we would all see a huge amount of positive results in the direction of peace in the whole area but the reality is far from that unfortunatily!

Of course "Israel" Acted as they Broked with US after Polesi,s visit! i am sure Olmert sent a hot sms to Bush and asked him what to do and Bush ordered him to Act being really really angry

Israel Broke with USA? Never Ever! Israel can never ever survive with out USA on its side........and beside.....

Dont Call the Govenment of Israel alone the whole nation of Israel! If you dont know this already and I am sure you know, Most Israelies want a peace treaty here and now and even negotiations with any body a bout that and most Israelies are a gaist both Bush and Olmert as well. We are talking a bout two Really unpoular leaders from Israel and america whom have this thing is common...they are on power evne most of their own people want them to get the hell out!

I am sure the whole region can live in peace and harmony much easier than it seems if good decision makes are in the White House and in Israel as well. Lets wait and see whom is going to take over after this thief.... Olmert dude is gone!


I think Benjamin Netanyahu will be Israel's next Prime Minister. I only pray. He'll kick ass and take names later. I can't wait.....applause

It's always good to know who the anti-semites are~~ professor





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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: May 16, 2008, 4:48 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
ttom would rather appease the dictators Bush and Olmert


I just stay loyal to my gov't and constitution, Opal. Flip floppers and Obama.....are having difficultes doing this. They confuse position of minority party with the right to speak for the American people. They did not have that right for the last 4 years.

They vote for war...it gets ugly and hard wars as can get...and bail out.
'Let us talk with enemy'.......does not matter they break nearly 40 years of American policy not to talk with terrorists. So they took both position of appeasement and a position of undermining the elected gov't of the US.

GWB did not mention a single Dem name in his address.....Obama takes it personally.....elitist do that....Says the comments were directed at him and are unfair. Kerry jumbs in. Hillary has some words on it. Polisi comes in. Reid comes in. The only that has stayed smart and silent here.....Murtha. The old Marine sees their position clear enough to stay silent. The rest are convicting themselves by attacking Bush on his comments.

Newt Grinrich had a great quote for Obama to use here. He said Obama should have said. "Mr. President, you are absolutely correct.
Appeasement of dictators has historically never been successful."
End of story. LOL....But instead, they attack the messager. To late, Opal, media has it now.





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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: May 16, 2008, 4:49 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
I think French is on board or cut a deal with America but Putin says....

Putin: American attack on Iran will be viewed as an attack on Russia atimes.com — The barely reported highlight of Russian President Vladimir Putin's visit to Tehran for the Caspian Sea summit last week was a key face-to-face meeting with Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Russia will probably supply Iran with a few nukes.ttom, you laugh so easily but do you realize how ugly this can get?
Russia and China have became very friendly also.



We're probably better off appeasing.....angel





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opalbeauty
Worcester County, Massachusetts USA
Posted: May 16, 2008, 4:53 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
We're probably better off appeasing.....


You call talk and diplomacy what you will. I wouldn't expect any different from a Bush suporter.





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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: May 16, 2008, 4:58 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
You call talk and diplomacy what you will. I wouldn't expect any different from a Bush suporter.


The upside is, I don't think Putin would be smart to do anything that would promote Israel being attacked...Israel might be able to take on Russia too. applause





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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: May 16, 2008, 5:06 PM CST
ttom500 wrote:
Bin Laden desire is to return Islam to a caliph sytle government of the 1500-1700s. 9/11 fits into this by creating a global jahid across all of Islam against the west. It was a kick off attack to accomplish this.

But it has gone astray. He thought that massive numbers would join
in the jahid. But that has not happened. Hence just about everyone of his videos is a recruiting video for more to join. He needs numbers to accomplish this. These numbers have not materialized.

Noticed how often he talks of this pan Islam movement? How often he talks of the Suadi royal family's corruption? How often he talks of Islamic unity? All flowered into the Koranic verses?

9/11 was not about American policies. To a lesser degree the US deployed forces in the Middle east do have a bearing....only that his desire is to remove them to have this pan Islam occur.

Pretty delusional stuff. Caliph governments were the most fundamental Islamic known to man. They fought against the
Christian Crusaders in the middle ages. But with the advent of nation states in middle east......it was history. Should be left there, but
bin Laden see a means thru jahid to bring it back.

I know this teroy of the Bushney,s very well But I am not buying that at all!

Bin Laden is nothing! He is not a head of a nation or any thing but rather a head of a group with no real influence in islamic countries than the influence he gets by the way american and israeli men of power giving him!

Think a gain TT.....What can OBL get out of any thing Jihading a gainst America or wanting to make an islamic khalifat from America and how can he possibly doing that? Your idea is all what the Bushney,s has told you to beleive and I know millons of ameircans and even europeans thinking as you do....but you are a minority any way and those thougts has been rejected after people began to think.

He is delusional for sure and a terrorist as well ...a very dangerous one but still....if the reasons why he gets attention ar enot there then he will be finish as well. What Jihad can he expect a gainst America? America is a huge super power with free people and OBL was a friend of Cheney and Biush Senior and Rumsfeldt and other idiots as those....they Made OBL becoming any body in the first place.

I know you love your ideas and thats ok with me .......but any other possible reason than the one you mention a boput why they attacked America TT?







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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: May 16, 2008, 5:08 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
ttom would rather appease the dictators Bush and Olmert

Sure TT appease those! They are the Bushney,s!!!!!!!!!!!!laugh





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opalbeauty
Worcester County, Massachusetts USA
Posted: May 16, 2008, 5:10 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
The upside is, I don't think Putin would be smart to do anything that would promote Israel being attacked...Israel might be able to take on Russia too.


Ya think? I don't think so. I will leave you with a thought rolling eyes
War is the last resort. It is not all black and white like your dictator has fed to you and you swallowed without a question. There is survelance and containment may be considered but you don't take all those human lifes and destroy their country for GREED and power.





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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: May 16, 2008, 5:11 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
after 9/11 the US had the goodwill of all the world. If Gore had been president we would have gone into Alphganistan and most likely brought OsamaBinforgotten to justice. He is not against Jews but I don't think he would have had all those zionist in his cabinet wanting to go to war on Iraq, Iran, Syria. tttom can you even say mistake?
Osamabinforgotten wanted to bring America to it's knees and Bush has played right into his hands. I think Bush is as delusional as BinLaden.

Exactly !

A Bush like on power means a strong Bin Laden.......they are both kind of leeches feeding from the same blood!





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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: May 16, 2008, 5:11 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
I think French is on board or cut a deal with America but Putin says....

Putin: American attack on Iran will be viewed as an attack on Russia atimes.com — The barely reported highlight of Russian President Vladimir Putin's visit to Tehran for the Caspian Sea summit last week was a key face-to-face meeting with Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Russia will probably supply Iran with a few nukes.ttom, you laugh so easily but do you realize how ugly this can get?
Russia and China have became very friendly also.


You worried about Russian Nukes, Opal? And you wish me to believe that this none disclosed defense pact exists between Iran and Russia?
Or do we just have more far left spin here?

Why should I take your word on this after everything you have said about GWB, the country, the south, white racism, and the other postings you have made here?

Personally, I think that we have a solution for Iran nuclear facilities.
One that will surprise you. But you are very right.....before GWB term is done....this will be resolved one way or another.





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Conrad73
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Posted: May 16, 2008, 5:13 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
The upside is, I don't think Putin would be smart to do anything that would promote Israel being attacked...Israel might be able to take on Russia too.
The Soviet Union was promised that,:"If we go down ,you will" I doubt much has changed on that Promise since!





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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: May 16, 2008, 5:13 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
Ya think? I don't think so. I will leave you with a thought
War is the last resort. It is not all black and white like your dictator has fed to you and you swallowed without a question. There is survelance and containment may be considered but you don't take all those human lifes and destroy their country for GREED and power.



Well, I do think Israel has been slapped around for 60 years. There will come a day when they've had enough. I think they'd love to live in a peaceful co-existence with their neighbors...but it won't happen.

It has nothing to do with greed or power.

JMO





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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: May 16, 2008, 5:17 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
I think French is on board or cut a deal with America but Putin says....

Putin: American attack on Iran will be viewed as an attack on Russia atimes.com — The barely reported highlight of Russian President Vladimir Putin's visit to Tehran for the Caspian Sea summit last week was a key face-to-face meeting with Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Russia will probably supply Iran with a few nukes.ttom, you laugh so easily but do you realize how ugly this can get?
Russia and China have became very friendly also.

I dont think russia is that much on Iran,s side but still it has been a very wrong policies made by the Bushney,s which made Russia angry form the begining. They attacked Iraq even Russia really was a gainst it and now if they attack Iran I am sure the problems will become more complicated between the two super powers than it is. I hope not Russia and America begning to fight a gainst each other over Iran and I actually dont think they will any way.

But the idea of attacking Iran militarily is a stupied idea, and will just create a lot problems for the whole western world. I dont like begining of another stupied war and another group of human beings, being those whom loosing their lives.





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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 16, 2008, 5:18 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Exactly !

A Bush like on power means a strong Bin Laden.......they are both kind of leeches feeding from the same blood!
You Two are getting redundant and extremely MONOTONOUS





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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: May 16, 2008, 5:23 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
Ya think? I don't think so. I will leave you with a thought
War is the last resort. It is not all black and white like your dictator has fed to you and you swallowed without a question. There is survelance and containment may be considered but you don't take all those human lifes and destroy their country for GREED and power.


Sometimes you just do the right thing......because it makes your country safer Opal.

But don't worry Opal........war has been part of the human experience on planet Earth for many years. Babies are still born. People still make families. Children go to schools. Just the fact you and me are post WWII baby boomers are examples to this. Life goes on and the far left can make conspriracy theories for the media to buy.







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