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Great.... We casn stick around for awhile then.....

I have not met yet. any woman that will not be interested in having sex in the first or second date

if women are looking for sex, why do they complain that the man was not interested in any relationship

be patiente, get to know him, before you engage in sex

women confuse, lust with love

that is for my experience, i dont say all women are like that, i am only saying i have not meet any one diferent

The rate of maturity differes for many.MEN AND WOMEN ALIKE.And what may start out as a sincere effort can indeed change over time.Or develop into.

Ok my 2 cents here. When you get finished with me it likely to be two pennies flatten by a train on the railroads tracks of life. But here goes.

At 58 I am trying to think back to the days of my 20-30s to see what was going on. Honestly, there were a number of girlfriends then. But I had a rule on it. No dating two or more at the same time. Hence, some loyalty was in the relationship. The question became was this a lifetime relationship or not?

I might have broke the rule once.....hey no one is perfect. Some of the breaks up were on thier side of the fence line and some were on my side of the fence line. Meaning sometime they broke it off and sometime I broke it off.

So why the string of girlfriends? String is bad word choice here. Let us try, why the extended number of female friends? Sound better? Yes! Two theories. First is the Baskin Robbin's theory. And second is the life reality theory of human relationships.

Baskin Robbin theory is that with all the different and unique women in the world (e.g. 32 individual flavors of ice cream and if you mix them many more by the way), each being a individual and unique....making THE CHOICE is tough to do. I hear it coming, that train is rolling down the tracks right now.....about to crush my two pennies......where is the Commitment TTOM500? So maybe I better get to a switching station and divert you to a different set of tracks

Remember both they and me broke it off? After going thru a few puppy loves where the heart gets smashed and battered.....one is less likely to fully commited to a relationship from day one. He/she is saying been here and done that. Me too. That train diverting to a different track some? Thanks, I hate to get my two pennies crushed.

But yes, with 3 billion women in the world, it takes some effort and some testing, yes? To make THE CHOICE? That is why they give you the little cups at Baskin Robbins, yes? To test the flavors, before you buy the triple scoop cone of the flavor(s) of your choice.

Going to give you another chance at my two pennies on the railroad track of life, here though. Life reality theory of human relationships coming up. Human relationships are unique and dynmanic. Unique means special and particular. Dynmanic means ever changing and evolving. Combine the two and you have some very complex parameters and issues going on. How often to do people really connect in life in a totally open and honest manner? Most us of have a false face we place on at one time or another. When a false face has been put on, that is when life reality and its complex parameters and issues get all fouled up. Well guess the two pennies are still on the tracks. And I got a feeling that the train is back on them.

So I think part of the issue is that often we are putting false faces
to these others we meet in life. They see through it or feel unconfrontable with it. We get guilty because of it.....hence we (both sexes) flee out of the relationship.

Trying to figure out now if I have enough time to get my 2 cents off the tracks before the train comes. Nah.....I will let them stay......was just my 2 cents.....:-)

maybe it's because you're a slut magnet

My observation is that the majority of guys are not looking for anything serious in their early to mid-twenties. But it's a more interesting question than that - you're in effect asking what they feel or plan when they're dating. I think most guys feel during the first waves of lust that they're with someone potentially special that could possibly be for a long period or forever, but they're more living in the moment and not really looking too far ahead. I don't think they plan much at all. They just experience the pleasures and heady feelings of the moment. Soon those heady feelings dissipate and the girl often wants something more permanent - and the end of their relationship draws near.

The above is a gross generalization, of course, but I think it applies to many if not most young men. I wasn't like that. I had no interest in anyone whom I didn't find to be in the life-mate category. Hence I did little dating - and dated most women only briefly, being able to exclude them from that category in a short time - until I found a potential soul mate.

Jeff

or might be most females are the kind you describe

females belive that if in the first date i take her for fine dinning i have to reward them with sex too

dont go there with that expresion and asuming

most of the females get shoked whemn i say i will not have sex in the first three month we will date
no one is willing to waif for that time to check if the feelings are real


how long fo you wait?

althought i am divorced, we build a strong friendhsip with my ex-wife before sex
till today we are friends

the others, sex first, and if a friendship develop that would be great and later they complain males do not want a comitment
what kind of comitment are you talking?
monogamous sex witut eny feelings?

sorry, but i truly belive in friends first

Thank you, more interesting points brought up.... I really appreciate it!