Sigmund Freud

friendsfirst
Burbank, Illinois USA

Posted: May 27, 2008, 12:38 PM CST

One of Freud's key findings was that much behavior is driven directly from the subconscious mind. This has the alarming consequence that we are largely unable to control our behavior, and in particular that which we would sometimes prefer to avoid.

More recent research has shown that the subconscious mind is probably even more in charge of our actions than even Freud had realized.

Discuss.

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princess49503
grand rapids, Michigan USA

Posted: May 27, 2008, 12:39 PM CST

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

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friendsfirst
Burbank, Illinois USA

Posted: May 27, 2008, 12:41 PM CST

princess49503 wrote:

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

good one.

Not according to Freud.

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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK

Posted: May 27, 2008, 12:45 PM CST

friendsfirst wrote:

One of Freud's key findings was that much behavior is driven directly from the subconscious mind. This has the alarming consequence that we are largely unable to control our behavior, and in particular that which we would sometimes prefer to avoid.

More recent research has shown that the subconscious mind is probably even more in charge of our actions than even Freud had realized.

Discuss.

Yeah I think there is something in that..

I know for me.. I am more often ruled by my dopey subconscious than my smarter conscious. I have had to learn to MAKE it take a back seat sometimes.

Hi Walter

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Jose13
Lima, Lima Peru

Posted: May 27, 2008, 12:45 PM CST

We are all driven by impulses of all kinds just "decorated" by what we have called (quire pretentiously) "Rationality"
In fact dangerous beasts nowehere else seen in the animal reign.

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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland

Posted: May 27, 2008, 12:53 PM CST

Smetimes I think,Old Sigmund kind of painted himself into a Corner,and the Cocaine wasn't exactly helpful!

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Bowie
winter haven, Florida USA

Posted: May 27, 2008, 12:59 PM CST

I think there may be some validity to his findings. I am constantly making Freudian slips. While just the other day, I bumped into the ex and said "how are you" when I really meant to say " you fricking cow, you ruined my life. I think your new boyfriend is gay".

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Jose13
Lima, Lima Peru

Posted: May 27, 2008, 1:01 PM CST

Conrad73 wrote:

Smetimes I think,Old Sigmund kind of painted himself into a Corner,and the Cocaine wasn't exactly helpful!

But even the painting of himself and the failure of cocaine as an stimulating agent to see reality (or what we call it like that) shows that his demise is alive in many others.There is always some kind of truth behind what he described or thought about the human mind.

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Serenity1971
Serenity's Island, Arizona USA

Posted: May 27, 2008, 1:03 PM CST

I love to quote my old psychology professor when I see Freud's name...

"Freud the fraud!"

Freud was a very confused individual. He had some decent theories but many of them lacked in their foundation.

He went from Stages of Development or Psychosexual Development to Theory of Dreams to Id, Ego, Superego to Defense Mechanisms to Anxieties.

Many of his theories and psychoanalytic testings were based on himself.

He was just a little self obsessed wouldn't you say!?!

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friendsfirst
Burbank, Illinois USA

Posted: May 27, 2008, 1:06 PM CST

Bowie wrote:

I think there may be some validity to his findings. I am constantly making Freudian slips. While just the other day, I bumped into the ex and said "how are you" when I really meant to say " you fricking cow, you ruined my life. I think your new boyfriend is gay".

Been there,and you are correct.I agree.

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Jose13
Lima, Lima Peru

Posted: May 27, 2008, 1:08 PM CST

Serenity1971 wrote:

I love to quote my old psychology professor when I see Freud's name...

"Freud the fraud!"

Freud was a very confused individual. He had some decent theories but many of them lacked in their foundation.

He went from Stages of Development or Psychosexual Development to Theory of Dreams to Id, Ego, Superego to Defense Mechanisms to Anxieties.

Many of his theories and psychoanalytic testings were based on himself. He was just a little self obsessed wouldn't you say!?!

Yes, he was consumed by his ego, as anyone else is. Everyone is in more or less degree a creature that thinks he/she is the bloody centre of the world.
His theories are very confusing too though I still find them more stimualting than a boring and barren scheme of "psychological evidence" processed with some stupid statistical tests.

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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland

Posted: May 27, 2008, 1:12 PM CST

I think C.G. Jung had somewhat better Insights.
Many people,whether they realize it or not,are alive today,thanks to Jung's insights into Addiction.

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Serenity1971
Serenity's Island, Arizona USA

Posted: May 27, 2008, 2:42 PM CST

Conrad73 wrote:

I think C.G. Jung had somewhat better Insights.
Many people,whether they realize it or not,are alive today,thanks to Jung's insights into Addiction.

I love C.G. Jung...I have an excellent book of his on my shelf called Memories, Dreams, Reflections. It's an incredible piece of work.

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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland

Posted: May 27, 2008, 2:49 PM CST

Serenity1971 wrote:

I love C.G. Jung...I have an excellent book of his on my shelf called Memories, Dreams, Reflections. It's an incredible piece of work.

The Jung-Institute here in Kusnacht near Zurich is still going strong.
Many Jungian Psychologists graduating from there.

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Serenity1971
Serenity's Island, Arizona USA

Posted: May 27, 2008, 7:50 PM CST

Conrad73 wrote:

The Jung-Institute here in Kusnacht near Zurich is still going strong.
Many Jungian Psychologists graduating from there.

I may just have to take a trip to Switzerland and check it out

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friendsfirst
Burbank, Illinois USA

Posted: May 27, 2008, 7:54 PM CST

Conrad73 wrote:

I think C.G. Jung had somewhat better Insights.
Many people,whether they realize it or not,are alive today,thanks to Jung's insights into Addiction.

Does JUNG mention anything about addiction to CS?

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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden

Posted: May 27, 2008, 8:02 PM CST

friendsfirst wrote:

One of Freud's key findings was that much behavior is driven directly from the subconscious mind. This has the alarming consequence that we are largely unable to control our behavior, and in particular that which we would sometimes prefer to avoid.

More recent research has shown that the subconscious mind is probably even more in charge of our actions than even Freud had realized.

Discuss.

We landed on the moon?
Our subconscious controls much more than you would think it does. The key it to be aware of this and to work out any problems from your past that control your daily life.
Dreams are a good way of decoding what is really bothering us...I'll add more later when I am off the phone....

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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden

Posted: May 27, 2008, 8:02 PM CST

Conrad73 wrote:

I think C.G. Jung had somewhat better Insights.
Many people,whether they realize it or not,are alive today,thanks to Jung's insights into Addiction.

I concur...

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diogenes
Longview, Texas USA

Posted: May 27, 2008, 8:04 PM CST

friendsfirst wrote:

One of Freud's key findings was that much behavior is driven directly from the subconscious mind. This has the alarming consequence that we are largely unable to control our behavior, and in particular that which we would sometimes prefer to avoid.

More recent research has shown that the subconscious mind is probably even more in charge of our actions than even Freud had realized.

Discuss.

That's only partly true....the subconscious is comepletely programmable. So it's not as though we are slaves to it.

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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden

Posted: May 27, 2008, 8:06 PM CST

diogenes wrote:

That's only partly true....the subconscious is comepletely programmable. So it's not as though we are slaves to it.

Good bonerish post...so true

cock in hand

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