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one can say, do, feel, whatever one pleases, the assumption lives as if truth. Life is the breath of intention, a prayer, it's trust in reality.


there are no buts my learned friend, save those you or should I say 'we' are often want to chase after, all derivations, mispellings and intentions of 'buts' assumed of course...

My brother is a Christian and he has the power of healing through prayer.. he was telling me of two instances where prayer has defied medical science... one instance is with a friend of his (I met this girl... she exists) she was diagnosed with Breast Cancer and was being treated in the hospital where he works (he is a medical professional).. anyway.. when he first became a Christian about 18 years ago, she asked him to pray for her when she received results of a biopsy diagnosing a cancerous tumour... he did, he prayed for her and when he did he got a strange feeling go up through him, which he didn't understand, he didn't mention anything to her (becuase he didn't fully understand it himself) because he didn't want to give her false hope.. but when she went shortly after for an x-ray the tumour had gone... completely.. she had not even received treatment yet... she was x-rayed in the hospital where he works so he got to see the results.. the doctors were baffled...

(am v tired and lazy so just copied this from earlier thread )

What kind of eggs does a wicked chicken lay?
Deviled eggs.

chickens are taking it on the chin today!!

Wanted to add - not a shameless "bump," actually feeling quite guilty - that many of the characteristics listed for God (such as omnipotence, omniscience, etc.) are logically incoherent if not self-contradictory, but that doesn't stop people who don't appreciate their logical ramifications from claiming to believe in them.

I dare you to say that in English!

Yeah-yeah....I'm still trying to sort through this mess in my head...can't grasp one theory on this....need to investigate more and reflect....it's more like....oh forget it....

Hi,

I didn't read any of this thread
Just want to say I am a firm believer in the power of prayer

sometimes it is good that prayers aren't answered how else would he hug your children lady c? you naughty girl

This is an interesting story. I won't say this was a coincidence or that maybe your brother felt some positive force about this woman because he was so tuned into her energy, but I will say that maybe a miracle happened that I just can't explain right now...a miracle thought prayer.....

I would add


prayers has brought me peace of mind
calm in the mist of mayhem
acceptance around pain and loss etc,. etc,. etc,.


NOT a mercedes Benz if you get my drift

I don't know if an infinitely intelligent being would benefit from our entreaties, except maybe with the exception that you are acknowledging "it" is real, after all "it" is a higher being. I do however believe in the power of prayer, i have seen it work too many times to doubt it, i am not religious but i am very very spiritual and do believe that there is a higher being, i believe in the bible only in parables but i follow as close as i can to that, i will never be perfect and probably wont stride for perfection but i will try to follow as close to good as the "higher being" that i believe in will allow me, and maybe one day i will satisfy it. Deep thread jeff

"God is one heckuva confusing entity."

Too bad you aren't here, brother. I've got a shroom with your name written on it (in bright, psychedelic colors, too!) that would help straighten that mental mess out, believe me.

Hi guys

getting back to the question at hand.......

I would say the God issue can be as complicated and as complex as you wish or just flip the coin and simplify..........God can be so uncomplicated


it is simply a matter of good verses bad

positive verses negative

love of the self and there after love for others

"do onto other as you have done onto you"

so so sooooooooooo simple

go forth and love...........................

drop the egosssssssssssssssss

problematic perhaps, but I love paradoxical lamentations.

Once you've found logic it is only noticed because of the it's illogical natures as well. Like cold, one can't appreciate, let alone acknowledge the temperature unless its from a perspective of warmth. (your body temp)

Yes.

There are many such observed and recorded examples of spiritual healing, both physical and emotional.

It's too easy in a jaded, cynical, society to react destructive and dismissive toward spiritual and metaphysical topics like the 'power of prayer' and demonstrable belief.

Not much seems ever to come of imposing limited physical terms on a discussion and examination of genuine magic, spirituality, godheads.

What purpose does it serve to restrict and bind with physical sciences, logic, prejudice, the metaphysical abstractions and demonstrable beliefs such as the power of prayer, shaman practice, genuine magic...?

Attempting to reduce and anthropomorphise an abstraction must surely be counterproductive?

Science must set out to prove by attempting to disprove. Attempting to prove an Omega point is essential in all theology and quantum physics.

There's a lot more interdependence, though, between physics and metaphysical theory.

For example, when the Hadron Collider near Geneva finally gets its act together, scientists in Chile and Italy could be closer in collaboration with philosophers in France and Spain - and Melbourne and Stanford among others, toward fourth dimension, mathematically creative definition and understanding of things metaphysical. Including the power of prayer.

- 'W'





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gottya!!!!!!!

gobbledygook

speakadaengalish

pleaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

and stop the showing off

I'm only human.........

(the two of ya)

oops sorrrrrrrrrry

what's the story guys

I was only messin

and I thought it was you showing off...