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Alfalfa
Tybee Island, Georgia USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 1:58 PM CST
Alfalfa wrote:
Yes...there was some assumption their. In fairness to me, however, I specifically mentioned based on what you wrote ALONE and what you wrote was all about money.
there not their....Ugh..I hate when people do that!!blues
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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, England UK
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:00 PM CST
Alfalfa wrote:
there not their....Ugh..I hate when people do that!!


it's a mistake.. comfort we all make them

See mine sometimes! laugh
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pixiestyx
everywhere, South Carolina USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:01 PM CST
RobbieM wrote:
First rule in therapy and counselling is listen to what the person is saying in front of you, not try to drown them in what you were taught i how to deal with people.

The main thing is being totally non judgemental and the stories i would here in the friends and family support networks would break your heart.
From alcoholics, junkies and victims of crime.....it was terrible.So i know how to listen, but on here people always react like their being insulted or talked down to and fly off the handle!!

I decided not to do counselling in the end as a career as i think it would have upst me too much in the end.So i decided to stop killing themselves or others on the roads and became a driving instructor instead.

I cant wait to qualify and have a life again.

The walk a mile in my shoes is always so relevant, and many would do well to remember that before going bezerk at someone!! Have some nice cyber Jimmy Choos, i have a feeling your a girlie who loves a designer shoe when she sees one!



thanks sweetie but, I am of the rare breed of woman that prefers to go barefoot or wear thongs but I thank you
relevant so true I was a nurse and have seen the results of what you are speaking of before they get to the therapeutic aspect and as you so empathetically state...the stories can be heartbreaking...in a world that is so devoted to judging without looking in the mirror before doing so it only contributes to the problem .....hope your feelin better soon ....
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Alfalfa
Tybee Island, Georgia USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:01 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
I know this is slightly out of the norm.. but have you considered making her visits further apart.. and ,maybe for shorter time?

I know that's a biggy.. but it's also less traumatic for the kids.
I have thought about a lot of different iterations of it. There is a lot of contradictory advice on the subject.
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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, England UK
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:03 PM CST
Alfalfa wrote:
I have thought about a lot of different iterations of it. There is a lot of contradictory advice on the subject.


I just know from experience with mine.. they were actually Better.. (less hurt).. when he couldnt (be arsed to) see them as often.
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Alfalfa
Tybee Island, Georgia USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:08 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
I just know from experience with mine.. they were actually Better.. (less hurt).. when he couldnt (be arsed to) see them as often.
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spiceygamble
Hell, North Carolina USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:11 PM CST
Alfalfa wrote:
there are obviously missing details. If they have all this money, why don't they move the father and child to be near the mother? Why doesn't the mother hire someone to run the business....something does not fit...I guess...to best articulate my position I should explain my feelings about divorce. I remember when my first child was born and one of my earliest thoughts when passing him to his mom was, how can anyone get divorced and deprive a child of the anything that could risk their ultimate happiness. There is a radio psychologist that argues divorce is only acceptable in the case of one of the 3 "A"s. Addiction , Adultery and/or Abuse. I saw my wife through Addiction early on and Adultery later and would not fold on my kids happiness (that is the Scottish in me!).

Anyway..when people talk about a marriage "dissolving" or people "falling out of love" to me it just SCREAMS...SELFISH. Marriage is a life long commitment...get some feckin therapy and if it don't work get some more. Love for me is a choice and not always an easy one....but in the end, having the courage to work through it with an eye on all its ruin affects, is 10000 times more rewarding than trying to get a better deal somewhere else. We have become a society rich with pansies.


Just to allow you to gain more perspective...
The two parties have homes close to each other. They have a vacation home as well. The mother does not have the option of hiring someone to run the fortune 500 company she works for. It doesn't work that way.

I know you have massive emotional scars & I kindly respect your rights to deal with those issues in whatever way you feel fit... but you could try to see things as they are, instead of filtering them. We all have this as a daily struggle, myself included. To be able to simply look at the available information without injecting suppositions... well, it takes practice.

Radio personalities selling their time aren't going to give you a standard of answer that applies to every single situation. Just as Freud wasn't 100 % accurate in some of his concepts about blame and sex. Your personal beliefs are just that... yours. You can not expect the entire population of people going through divorce to adhere to your concepts. That would be hypocritical. You would never blindly follow the standards to a stranger, just because it suited their needs, now would you? So you can not expect it from others.

You made valiant efforts to save a marriage that ended up dissolved in the end. It is unfortunate and possibly unfair all around... but it done. How long you bear an open wound from the past is going to be under no one's control but your own.
Personally, I would like to see you be able to pour your vast energies into a loving relationship... and I hope you can get to that point unhindered by the past.




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spiceygamble
Hell, North Carolina USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:19 PM CST
Your situation bears an uncanny similarity to the one I found myself in with the older foster child I took in. His mother was allowed very limited visits, supervised mind you... and I agreed to it.
They became so spread out & she had begun to skip out on them in the end.
Eventually, her calls to announce her coming were more damaging than if she had simply hit her son with a stone.
It took a court order & a ton of evidence(not to mention almost all my saving spent on shrinks) to have her parenting right s permanently removed. It allowed everyone to move on & old wounds to heal.

...ironically, she never contested any part of the case.


I hope your situation isn't like this but if it is, let it pass quickly.
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rasgumby
Moberly, Missouri USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:39 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
I have a RL friend who used to live here in my town. She too was married with 3 children.. they were about 12 - 10 and 5 at the time.

She met someone on the internet .. left her husband and children .. and moved 400 miles away.

I was stunned! and so sad for them all.. two f the kids would come here to play sometimes.. and they would cry and cry.. it was heartbreaking to see.

I remember trying to tactfully ask her once.. why? .. and she said .. 'Just because I am a woman doesn't mean I am maternal.. I just wasn't cut out to be a mother, I just can't do it'



I have often read that on profiles.. the 'don't live with me' thing... I just assumed it usually meant 'Grown up and gone' ... but now I see there is that other option there.. I wonder..


at least she was honest..and did not harm the kids, like so many nothers we see that kills all of the kids.
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dcj22
Somewhere, Minnesota USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:40 PM CST
I'm sure there are some women who fight just as hard and are also good parents, but the children should go to the best parent - some times that is the father - like you.
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rasgumby
Moberly, Missouri USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:43 PM CST
Alfalfa wrote:
My wife left me and our 3 kids. While I would say I fought for custody in the divorce it really was not much of a fight. In my 42 years I have never witnessed that kind of unbridled selfishness. So when I see a woman's profile that under the children question reads - Yes and they don't live with me....alarms go off. Am I wrong for passing them up?


In almost all cases you wont get the truth if you ask her!
They will say whatever lands them a man.
I don't think any will tell you that they lost their kids because of drug abuse, alcohol abuse, child abuse, because they went to prison or so on...

some actually have good reasons...but you have no way on knowing who is telling the truth and who isn't. frustrated
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2catchastar
Corning, New York USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:50 PM CST
there are a lot of reazon for a mother not having her kidz ( orry my keyboard iz on the fritz I have one letter that juzt wont work zo I am uzing z. ) OMG. Any way, it could be that zhe kidz might have wanted to be with there dad, and he might have been unelfizh enough to let them. thiz i jut an example that all thingz may not be the way you zee them. I would zay if you zee zomeone you could get an intrezt in, azk them, judge by the anzwer and not zomething from a pre written choice anzwer.
And don't judge me for my typing, God it lookz like I type with an acczent.

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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, England UK
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:53 PM CST
2catchastar wrote:
there are a lot of reazon for a mother not having her kidz ( orry my keyboard iz on the fritz I have one letter that juzt wont work zo I am uzing z. ) OMG. Any way, it could be that zhe kidz might have wanted to be with there dad, and he might have been unelfizh enough to let them. thiz i jut an example that all thingz may not be the way you zee them. I would zay if you zee zomeone you could get an intrezt in, azk them, judge by the anzwer and not zomething from a pre written choice anzwer.
And don't judge me for my typing, God it lookz like I type with an acczent.


hahah! thats so funny.. you are writing like my teens texts.. giggle


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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, England UK
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:54 PM CST
2catchastar wrote:
God it lookz like I type with an acczent.


haha.. Spreken ze deutch?
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rasgumby
Moberly, Missouri USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 2:55 PM CST
2catchastar wrote:
there are a lot of reazon for a mother not having her kidz ( orry my keyboard iz on the fritz I have one letter that juzt wont work zo I am uzing z. ) OMG. Any way, it could be that zhe kidz might have wanted to be with there dad, and he might have been unelfizh enough to let them. thiz i jut an example that all thingz may not be the way you zee them. I would zay if you zee zomeone you could get an intrezt in, azk them, judge by the anzwer and not zomething from a pre written choice anzwer.
And don't judge me for my typing, God it lookz like I type with an acczent.


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing too darn funny..... thatz zo hard to read! and my zpell checker iz going crazyrolling on the floor laughing
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GypsyGirl_1963
Anaheim, California USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 3:00 PM CST
Alfalfa wrote:
My wife left me and our 3 kids. While I would say I fought for custody in the divorce it really was not much of a fight. In my 42 years I have never witnessed that kind of unbridled selfishness. So when I see a woman's profile that under the children question reads - Yes and they don't live with me....alarms go off. Am I wrong for passing them up?


I'm sorry that you had to deal with this, but not all women that list they don't have their children with them are all bad.

I have been in this situation with my ex who painted this horrible picture of me in our custody case to where I almost lost my children due to his lying. Everyone thinks that women will automatically get the children in a divorce/custody situation...not always. There are always 3 sides to a story the Husband's, Wife's and the Judges decision. In my case I ended up hiring a very expensive cut throat attorney and 2 years of my life proving that I was a good parent and that these were all lies do to my ex's infidelity and strange reality of having his children blending with his new girlfriend later wife.

In the end I did get primary custody, but it took heaven and hell to get to this point. So please don't judge until you've heard why they don't have their children.

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2catchastar
Corning, New York USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 3:45 PM CST
rasgumby wrote:
too darn funny..... thatz zo hard to read! and my zpell checker iz going crazy


Zorry guyz thiz iz zo fruztrating! I feel like I am typing with my teeth nocked out!
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jampet
wexford, Wexford Ireland
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 4:27 PM CST
plus the
mother may live 2 doors down, so you can't really tell from. my kids live with me but stay over with my husband a couple nights a week.
physically this is not good for them- it's all videos, sweets, junk food, expensive play areas,and not much talk so basically babysitting rather than parenting.
A little bit of me thinks they would be better off not seing him, but when i hear how they love him and can't wait to see him, for whatever reasons, nothing could make me do that to them
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Alfalfa
Tybee Island, Georgia USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 4:59 PM CST
GypsyGirl_1963 wrote:
I'm sorry that you had to deal with this, but not all women that list they don't have their children with them are all bad.

I have been in this situation with my ex who painted this horrible picture of me in our custody case to where I almost lost my children due to his lying. Everyone thinks that women will automatically get the children in a divorce/custody situation...not always. There are always 3 sides to a story the Husband's, Wife's and the Judges decision. In my case I ended up hiring a very expensive cut throat attorney and 2 years of my life proving that I was a good parent and that these were all lies do to my ex's infidelity and strange reality of having his children blending with his new girlfriend later wife.

In the end I did get primary custody, but it took heaven and hell to get to this point. So please don't judge until you've heard why they don't have their children.
Great feedback Gypsy Thanks!! I think anyone that close to disney should have custody by defaultrolling on the floor laughing
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Alfalfa
Tybee Island, Georgia USA
Posted: Jun 7, 2008, 5:14 PM CST
spiceygamble wrote:
JYou can not expect the entire population of people going through divorce to adhere to your concepts.
I beg your pardon, but when they were on the altar saying their vows it was not MY concepts there were obligating themselves to adhere to.
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