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suicides everywhere!!

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kitty01
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 11:31 AM CST
My kids father took a overdose, and my daughter has tried it many times without success so far.
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starliteisbrite
The planet earth....:), Ontario Canada
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 11:49 AM CST
Suicide is on the rise....
....and sad but true are youth are getting younger and younger who are doing as such.

The after thought ,and all the why's of losing one close to you after suicide can be tragic,
I can"t even begin to imagine the pain one must be feeling to commit such a act.
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Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 11:54 AM CST
...


and yeah
mental health is so misunderstood by the general public

that needs to be rectified

theres always another answer
its just so hard for us towait sometimes


keep trudging

i love you
you know why


no replacement for the kindred so dont abandon me
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sweetowen
Somewhere, Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 12:20 PM CST
StevenSchwartz wrote:
My dad used to say, whatever doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.



I find that hard to believe. Because if it's true, why are there psych wards?
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starliteisbrite
The planet earth....:), Ontario Canada
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 12:24 PM CST
sweetowen wrote:
I find that hard to believe. Because if it's true, why are there psych wards?



I believe that comment was meant as a figure of speech.

However even those who seek or are under going treatment fall true to those words.
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Dawn50
Niagara Falls Ontario, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 12:46 PM CST
Suicides is sad, especially for the people they leave behind sigh

I think it is also difficult for people who have not experience hardship, and then experience the opposite of their life style etc...

Pride, dignity gets in the way of admitting failure, to be able to talk openly what is really going on with their life dunno

My 2 cents I still beleive if I had not experience so many hurdles since the day I was born to this day, I would have not been strong enough to overcome what life throws at you. dunno There were times when you think you can't hit any lower point in your life, then a shovel digs a hole beneath you for more heartache wow!

To this day I say because of my hurdles, made me the person I am today "Strong" and able to handle what surprises life throws at me, for me I am blessed with strenght to have coped.

I never think of the pass and always look forward to tomorrow!

My heart goes out to everyone who has lost a friend, relative to suicide because as I said they leave the ones they love with "if" or "should have" .......

sad flower
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nuala
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 12:47 PM CST


Hi Ship......Sadly i lost my husband John to suicide, leaving me and our 8 kids with that big "why"......our youngest was 6 and Jonh was found on our eldest's 18th birthday.....My son Derek's birthday is on the 18th July, John's anniversary is on the 19th July and my daughter Emma's birthday is on the 20th July......It will be 9 years next month since he died and we will never know why until we meet him again....We have learnt one thing from this sad time in ourlives, that life is to be enjoyed not endured.....Emma is getting married on her Dad's birthday the 1st August and the whole family is looking forward to this happy event even though her dad chose not to be part of it.....They have always kept their respect for him...I can say with my hand on my heart, that i am so proud of each one of them as they picked themselves up and learnt to live again not dwell in the sorrow and saddness of the suicide.....hug hug teddy bear

I have written my story for others to read so if anyone wants a copy just mail me......I just want others to know that there is hope after a suicide, its hard to get it but it can happen......hug
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rasgumby
Moberly, Missouri USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 3:09 PM CST
Honestly...... someone here is in danger and I hope many of you are writing emails encouraging to go get help.

No, I am not being an ass,professor
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woody636
Elgin, Illinois USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 3:15 PM CST
Hey ship, don't know much about suicide but I know about losing a son. Lost mine 10 years ago and its still an open wound. You ever need to talk or just plain vent just hollar.
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riyablossom
somewhere India
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 3:25 PM CST
Jesus this thread really scared me.

ermm suicide is NOT hereditary.

There is always an answer to every trouble , disappointment and sorrow. There might not be the perfect solution but there is always an alternative answer.

We have a life that we live to the best of our abilities in the situations provided to us and one day we leave .. alone .. but leave behind a lfetime of memories , happiness and achievements for the ones we loved to remember us through.

Giving up is NEVER the solution. Sometimes we love but arent loved in return , sometimes we lose and sometimes we gain , sometimes life is real hard on us while at times we are showered with unseen kindness and unheard of treasures. Thats the way it is .... alittle spice and a little sugar.

Rarely is life a bed of roses so when ever one is faced with a situation that impels you to abruptly end such a beautiful life ....... for a while

sit back , detach and think.

Maybe you might be able to see the hope thats always there.. . you just got to look and hard enough.

Sometimes our troubles mark the end of one phase and the beginning of another ... which could possibly be the most beautiful times life is promising to us . Giving up hence might not actually be a very good decision .. what say ?

hug
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jampet
wexford, Wexford Ireland
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 3:38 PM CST
nuala wrote:
Hi Ship......Sadly i lost my husband John to suicide, leaving me and our 8 kids with that big "why"......our youngest was 6 and Jonh was found on our eldest's 18th birthday.....My son Derek's birthday is on the 18th July, John's anniversary is on the 19th July and my daughter Emma's birthday is on the 20th July......It will be 9 years next month since he died and we will never know why until we meet him again....We have learnt one thing from this sad time in ourlives, that life is to be enjoyed not endured.....Emma is getting married on her Dad's birthday the 1st August and the whole family is looking forward to this happy event even though her dad chose not to be part of it.....They have always kept their respect for him...I can say with my hand on my heart, that i am so proud of each one of them as they picked themselves up and learnt to live again not dwell in the sorrow and saddness of the suicide.....

I have written my story for others to read so if anyone wants a copy just mail me......I just want others to know that there is hope after a suicide, its hard to get it but it can happen......


oh i am so sorry hug it must be even harder when there is no 'why' to explain it, but like I said- one of the friends Dh's that killed himself, was totally anti suicide and said it was so selfish etc. so sometimes, they just CAN'T see an alternative. i hope the wedding is brilliant and you just know he will be there and proud as punch with the success you have made of your, and your kids' lives
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jampet
wexford, Wexford Ireland
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 3:40 PM CST
riyablossom wrote:
Jesus this thread really scared me.

ermm suicide is NOT hereditary.

There is always an answer to every trouble , disappointment and sorrow. There might not be the perfect solution but there is always an alternative answer.

We have a life that we live to the best of our abilities in the situations provided to us and one day we leave .. alone .. but leave behind a lfetime of memories , happiness and achievements for the ones we loved to remember us through.

Giving up is NEVER the solution. Sometimes we love but arent loved in return , sometimes we lose and sometimes we gain , sometimes life is real hard on us while at times we are showered with unseen kindness and unheard of treasures. Thats the way it is .... alittle spice and a little sugar.

Rarely is life a bed of roses so when ever one is faced with a situation that impels you to abruptly end such a beautiful life ....... for a while

sit back , detach and think.

Maybe you might be able to see the hope thats always there.. . you just got to look and hard enough.

Sometimes our troubles mark the end of one phase and the beginning of another ... which could possibly be the most beautiful times life is promising to us . Giving up hence might not actually be a very good decision .. what say ?


suicide, like diabetes, may not be 'hereditary' as such, but it does tend to run in families, maybe it's because depression can be hereditary
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riyablossom
somewhere India
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 3:47 PM CST
jampet wrote:
suicide, like diabetes, may not be 'hereditary' as such, but it does tend to run in families, maybe it's because depression can be hereditary


quite possible.

Also sometimes certain personality traits run in families making people more prone to commit.
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Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 4:26 PM CST
I am familiar with suicide and the effects it has on people. On May 4th of last year (my senior yr)the day started out normal. It wasn't until we were about 30 mins into our band period when our band director sent one of the seniors to find Allie, until then with 42 of us being in the room I had not realized that her seat sat unattended with her flute in it. When the student sent to look for her did not return but our counselor pulled our band director outside, my sister who was a freshman broke into tears. Our band director came back in told us to put our instruments up and sit down. Being in band your become like a family you could read the emotion on his face that something was terribly wrong. Being a close knit school of about 175 people in the high school, we joined hands and started to pray. Our school was put on lock down my sister and her friends removed from the room the principle and superattendant came to make the announcement that Allie had commited suicide in the bathroom of the school. They removed us from the room I don't remember much of the next hour I remember being held by my close friend Marty as he didn't let go until about an hr later. I had no idea where my sister was how she was for Allie was my sister's best friend. The news was every where trig to question everyone. My sister was questioned for 2 hrs. Questions flared over my sister knowing. Truth is my sister never knew, Allie had been in counseling for a while and had a lot going for her. Allie never knew what it was that bothered her. She was made fun of and her friends were too. Her death was sudden and it struck her friends hard. I remember playing big sister to about 10 other people besides my sister. We had a concert for band less than a wk later we went in the monday after her death and tried to play knowing that it was something that helped us forget things. but playing and her not being there broke us down. We had the best support system we could have ever wished to have a band director that pulled us together when we were falling apart, a superattendent that stood at the door every morning offering a hug if you needed it, we had a student body that pulled together and sang and prayed every morning before class. I am proud of my school my faith and most of all my sister, who stood beside her friends and though she might have been the closest to Allie she comforted them and remembered Allie the way Allie would have wanted to be remembered as the Crazy girl that never failed to amaze everyone!

This is for Allie!

If anyone ever needs to talk feel free to talk to me I know the hurt people feel and I've also had to talk people outta suicide. Its the trials and life that make you stronger. And they are also blessings that better equipe you to help others in the future.

Lora
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jampet
wexford, Wexford Ireland
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 4:38 PM CST
rasgumby wrote:
Honestly...... someone here is in danger and I hope many of you are writing emails encouraging to go get help.

No, I am not being an ass,


wise words indeed. this is one situation where this kind of site can really show it's support, albeit cyber support ,for one another. what are you ( not you rasgumby)waiting for ?
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 6:05 PM CST
jampet wrote:
suicide, like diabetes, may not be 'hereditary' as such, but it does tend to run in families, maybe it's because depression can be hereditary



Yes, I think I stated this earlier. Depression is a chemical imbalance, whereas suicide is a behavior problem. Medical issues can be passed from generation to generation. But behaviors can be stopped at ones concerted will.
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mylifewithu
springfield, Missouri USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 6:28 PM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
Yes, I think I stated this earlier. Depression is a chemical imbalance, whereas suicide is a behavior problem. Medical issues can be passed from generation to generation. But behaviors can be stopped at ones concerted will.

I agree, but what sets off a person with depression to think about suicide is they have lost all HOPE !!
I have walked thru my entire life with depression , but I fight to smile and fight to live and be happy! And when everything seems hopeless, in come my constant suicide thoughts. I have learned to tell myself I can't do it until tomorrow, it always seems to be better the next day, even if life or problems are still the same. I know I will not feel as bad.

I even recognized it in my daughter, and when she talked depressed and I seen the familiar pain in her eyes as see talked like no reason to be alive.
I got her on the ground wraped my arms and legs around that kid and she was bigger than me, I told her. It's not as bad as it seems , its just the way you are seeing things right now. And repeatedly told her I love her! Later we talked and she told me , she was trying hard to get away but she couldn't believe I was stronger, although I have serious neck problems and effects my arms strength.

She needed proof of being loved and to actually feel that and what I did was her proof to herself. That I love her enough that I could give my life or causing myself severe damage to save her. Sometimes people need love and hope back in there life!!
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nuala
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 6:34 PM CST
mylifewithu wrote:
I agree, but what sets off a person with depression to think about suicide is they have lost all HOPE !!
I have walked thru my entire life with depression , but I fight to smile and fight to live and be happy! And when everything seems hopeless, in come my constant suicide thoughts. I have learned to tell myself I can't do it until tomorrow, it always seems to be better the next day, even if life or problems are still the same. I know I will not feel as bad.

I even recognized it in my daughter, and when she talked depressed and I seen the familiar pain in her eyes as see talked like no reason to be alive.
I got her on the ground wraped my arms and legs around that kid and she was bigger than me, I told her. It's not as bad as it seems , its just the way you are seeing things right now. And repeatedly told her I love her! Later we talked and she told me , she was trying hard to get away but she couldn't believe I was stronger, although I have serious neck problems and effects my arms strength.

She needed proof of being loved and to actually feel that and what I did was her proof to herself. That I love her enough that I could give my life or causing myself severe damage to save her. Sometimes people need love and hope back in there life!!



It is a struggle for you but i have the most high respect for you as you proved to your daughter she was loved and always will be for who she is....teddy bear

But sadly for us John never had that concept......I still remember on the day of his funeral.....the amount of people who came to show their respect for him...I looked at all of those people and could not, still cannot understand how John could not see the love that was there for him.....hug hug
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 6:39 PM CST
I have suffered from depression all my life, also. At one time, a number of years ago, I sttempted to take my life. I was given less than six months to live. I was under Hospice care. I didn't want to waste away. So I took an overdose then called my wife and told her I was tired. If I was asleep when she came home from work, don't wake me, let me sleep.

Of course, the meddlin bitch, had to wake me! Just because I asked her not to.!!!

Bottom line is...I made a conscience decision to end my life. I am glad today(though some aren't) that I was not successful. I proved the drs wrong and here I am today..

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nuala
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 6:41 PM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
I have suffered from depression all my life, also. At one time, a number of years ago, I sttempted to take my life. I was given less than six months to live. I was under Hospice care. I didn't want to waste away. So I took an overdose then called my wife and told her I was tired. If I was asleep when she came home from work, don't wake me, let me sleep.

Of course, the meddlin bitch, had to wake me! Just because I asked her not to.!!!

Bottom line is...I made a conscience decision to end my life. I am glad today(though some aren't) that I was not successful. I proved the drs wrong and here I am today..



Well I am glad you are still here today.....hug who the hell can stir things around here without gettin banned only you.....you boring auld git.....rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing now i am only jokin about the auld bit.....rolling on the floor laughing teddy bear hug
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