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HOW DO I GO ABOUT GETTING CHILD SUPPORT IN THE USA

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reelman90
Lexington, Kentucky USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 3:21 PM CST
rolltideroll wrote:
You need to contact a local atterney near you . Give them all of his information such as full name dat of birth where he was orignally from, years he were stationed there. What his job department and duties were. List anything and everything about him or his history that you can think of. Your attorney should know who to trace and contact him or his attorney to begin the process of finding him and filing for unpaid child support and allomony also list all the bills that you two had together and all that has come up since the children were born. This may take some time but he will eventually have to pay back child support with a % of interest attached to it.



I agree with the statement above. But the facts are not on her side here.

(correct any of the facts below if not correct)

1) Father is a US citizen.

2) Father was not in the military at the time of conception and birth.

3) Boy is a citizen of Panama not the US.

Once again and based upon the facts and US law, she will have a difficult time with this. I can't see a US legal requirement here where the father is obligated to pay anything. That is a view strictly from a legal view and not a moral one. These need to be clearly separated in this case.

My suggestion is, keep trying and keep pursuing. There maybe some little law somewhere that allows you to make a claim. I just don't know enough about it.

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jampet
wexford, Wexford Ireland
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 3:21 PM CST
I think he is actually cnsidered a citizen. all my kids have US pasports and SS numbers- the secnd 2 were not born in the US, but their Dad is a US citizen. Does he have a US passport- if not apply for one now! hope you get some justicegrin
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OUTRAGEOUS
San Juan, Panama Panama
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 3:23 PM CST
alex_192 wrote:
i dont like to argue on what it is writen in the taws

they are for every one to read

whether in the military or not, he is not consider to be american, and the inmigration will do whatever it takes to keep both out of the states


My dear man, understand this: we are NOT seeking to go back to the US. I could have stayed if I wante to, and I can go as a tourist anytime I want to.

And the way I see it, with my skills (humbly) I could be probably of more help than a cart-load of "proud americans" sucking dry the States Treasure, through welfare programs...

But that's not the point here, and I don't want this to go somewhere else.

That fact remains that the father of my son is an irresponsible scum-bag that have been dodging his duties for 14 years. The USA government is not going to go after him, I have to do it, and then bring the authorities into it. When I do, he'll have to pay, a lot.

And I still won't go live in the US.scold
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reelman90
Lexington, Kentucky USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 3:28 PM CST
OUTRAGEOUS wrote:
I understand. He was not in the military, but I do think he was Reserve National Guard. That was one of the conditions for him to get out early of his military contract.

I understand that if he decides not to pay that's his choice. However, I was a resident of the US for many years, with the same duties and obligations of any American Citizen. It is also my choice and my son's right to pursue this, whatever it takes. My son has rights here in Panama and in the US, because his father IS an American citizen, even though my son is a Panamanian citizen by birth. I have spoken extensively to the US Embassy and they have said that it has been done, not a problem there, we just need to get dad to do what he needs to do, and in this case it has to be done through an attorney. I understand the the US government is not going to pursue this for me, I have to do it with my own resources.

I just needed to see if there was something else that I could have missed, but I don't think I have.



Here is an idea. Put up a thread seeking legal advice. Maybe ask if someone on here is a lawyer or was even a former lawyer. You never know, it might help and give you some possibilities.

Hang tough, fight hard, and most of all, be persistent.
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reelman90
Lexington, Kentucky USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 3:57 PM CST
I checked for more info that may be helpful:

For persons born on or after November 14, 1986, a person is a U.S. citizen if all of the following are true:

1) One of the person's parents was a U.S. citizen when the person in question was born;
2) The citizen parent lived at least 5 years in the United States before his or her child's birth; and
3) At least 2 of these 5 years in the United States were after the citizen parent's 14th birthday.

A person's record of birth abroad, if registered with a U.S. consulate or embassy, is proof of his or her citizenship. Such a person may also apply for a passport or a Certificate of Citizenship to have a record of his or her citizenship. Such documentation is often useful to prove citizenship in lieu of the availability of an American birth certificate.

Different rules apply for persons born abroad to one U.S. citizen before November 14, 1986. United States law on this subject changed multiple times throughout the twentieth century, and the law as it existed at the time of the individual's birth controls.

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This info on the otherhand sounds like the boy would be considered a US citizen. If so, I would have to believe you could file for child support based upon the above criteria in a US court of law.

Hope this helps in some way!

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OUTRAGEOUS
San Juan, Panama Panama
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 4:01 PM CST
jampet wrote:
I think he is actually cnsidered a citizen. all my kids have US pasports and SS numbers- the secnd 2 were not born in the US, but their Dad is a US citizen. Does he have a US passport- if not apply for one now! hope you get some justice


Well, he doesn't have a US Passport, how can he? He's not a citizen, his father will have to register him at the Embassy.

Still, I am hanging on, and I will fight hard for this.

Thank you all for the support. If any one knows of an attorney, active or retired, that would like to offer Legal Advice on this matter, please, by all means, let him know about me and my quandary.
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OUTRAGEOUS
San Juan, Panama Panama
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 4:17 PM CST
reelman90 wrote:
I checked for more info that may be helpful:

For persons born on or after November 14, 1986, a person is a U.S. citizen if all of the following are true:

1) One of the person's parents was a U.S. citizen when the person in question was born;
2) The citizen parent lived at least 5 years in the United States before his or her child's birth; and
3) At least 2 of these 5 years in the United States were after the citizen parent's 14th birthday
.


A person's record of birth abroad, if registered with a U.S. consulate or embassy, is proof of his or her citizenship. Such a person may also apply for a passport or a Certificate of Citizenship to have a record of his or her citizenship. Such documentation is often useful to prove citizenship in lieu of the availability of an American birth certificate.

Different rules apply for persons born abroad to one U.S. citizen before November 14, 1986. United States law on this subject changed multiple times throughout the twentieth century, and the law as it existed at the time of the individual's birth controls.

**********************************

This info on the otherhand sounds like the boy would be considered a US citizen. If so, I would have to believe you could file for child support based upon the above criteria in a US court of law.

Hope this helps in some way!


Like I said, he is a citizen born abroad... I need to go to the US Embassy and get the right documents to send to him. He will (I am sure) demand DNA testing, is just the way he is, although my boy is his spitting image, that's ok, more money he'll need topay for putting us under unnecessary stress. He never paid alimony, so I could get him there, but I am not.

I had to wait 5 years in order to get a divorce, since he was nowhere to be found. So the Judge declare our marriage dissolved due to his absence.

So, if ANYONE knows of an attorney that could help me with this, I would greatly appreciate it.

Needless to say I don't have one scrap of paper in terms of bills paid, Dr's, food, clothing, shoes, etc. Education, yes, I have all of those.

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ANurse4U
Memphis, Tennessee USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 4:25 PM CST
((Now. Since that time I have spent endless times at the US Embassy trying to seek assistance for this. They have a set of requirements that I cannot comply with, for example: provide the school transcripts of the US to prove that he was living in the US at a certain time... Duh! How am I supposed to get those?))



This is easy ...just call the school district, the board of Education where your son went to school. It will cost you a dollar to have his transcripts sent to you.
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alex_192
sarasota USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 4:35 PM CST
ANurse4U wrote:
((Now. Since that time I have spent endless times at the US Embassy trying to seek assistance for this. They have a set of requirements that I cannot comply with, for example: provide the school transcripts of the US to prove that he was living in the US at a certain time... Duh! How am I supposed to get those?))
This is easy ...just call the school district, the board of Education where your son went to school. It will cost you a dollar to have his transcripts sent to you.


as for my undertanding is the school recors of the father
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nette0806
martinsburg, West Virginia USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 5:01 PM CST
I emailed you a site. Hope it helps, you can always email me if you have any questions.
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OUTRAGEOUS
San Juan, Panama Panama
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 5:23 PM CST
ANurse4U wrote:
((Now. Since that time I have spent endless times at the US Embassy trying to seek assistance for this. They have a set of requirements that I cannot comply with, for example: provide the school transcripts of the US to prove that he was living in the US at a certain time... Duh! How am I supposed to get those?))
This is easy ...just call the school district, the board of Education where your son went to school. It will cost you a dollar to have his transcripts sent to you.


Errrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmm.... Not my son's transcripts. My ex's school transcripts. I don't think I can request those. He didn't graduated from HS, he dropped out and got a GED before enrolling in the Army.
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OUTRAGEOUS
San Juan, Panama Panama
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 5:24 PM CST
nette0806 wrote:
I emailed you a site. Hope it helps, you can always email me if you have any questions.


You are God sent... I have emialed you. Cehck your inbox.

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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 7:06 PM CST
reelman90 wrote:
Was the boy born in Panama or the USA?

Have you spoken with an attorney in Panama?


Doesn't matter. If the parents are citizens of the US, the chid is a citizen by birth. John McCain was born in Panama.
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alex_192
sarasota USA
Posted: Jun 12, 2008, 8:26 PM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
Doesn't matter. If the parents are citizens of the US, the chid is a citizen by birth. John McCain was born in Panama.


read the inmigrations laws

the father have to sign some forms if his signature is not there even having a DNA test will not help

inmigrations will do whatever it takes to keep americans out of the country if they could do it

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DANSK
Punta del Este Uruguay
Posted: Jun 13, 2008, 5:15 PM CST
OUTRAGEOUS wrote:
I was married to a USA citizen, GI stationed in Panama and later we moved to the US. After frequent abuse and beatings, and all that, we got separated and I moved back to Panama. Eight months after I came back to Panama, we started talking again and decided to give it another shot, this time in my turf, that is Panama.

We conceived a son, he is now 14, my only son (I have 2 more girls), born in 1993. My now ex, then hubby, had to go back to the US, since he was not in the military and with no remarkable skills that he could use to find work in Panama, which he didn't, besides he never managed to learn the language. Upon returning to the US, while I was still pregnant (6 months), he was suppose to find a job, save money and bring us back to the US after the babe was born. Needless to say, it never happened. I haven't seen him or heard from him since March 1994, when, after a very angry conversation, we decided to go our separate ways, for good. He never knew his son. Have never sent him a penny for his support, ever.

Now. Since that time I have spent endless times at the US Embassy trying to seek assistance for this. They have a set of requirements that I cannot comply with, for example: provide the school transcripts of the US to prove that he was living in the US at a certain time... Duh! How am I supposed to get those?

Ok. So. Since there are no treaties signed between the Governments of Panama and the USA that force Americans to comply with their fatherly duty, that road is closed to me.

I contrived to find his mother, but she refuses to provide me with his address and contact info. She has my email, cel phone and other info. I wouldn't give him my homephone, no way. She did mention that he is an Architect, so I would like to know if there is like National Association where Architects will need to be registered?

I will need to find an attorney based in the US that would be willing to work with me on this, but before I sign anything, I need to know my chances for success, see if anything could come out of this. I'll need a honest lawyer, if there is such thing. My ex's family still live in Slidell, La.

Mind, I am not doing this for me. Lately (for the last 2-3 years) my son has been very inquisitive about his father. I owe him this much, the chance to know his roots. The money wouldn't be bad, but is not the most important issue here. But after his mother's refusal to let me speak with him directly, I was so angry that I want to take him to the cleaners, for refusing his son his right. Lucky for my boy, he has a om worth two full time parents...

Any thoughts? Any advice? Is there such a thing as a National Register for Architects? I know is a long shot, but hey... And I do have his SSN.

Thank you guys...
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DANSK
Punta del Este Uruguay
Posted: Jun 13, 2008, 5:19 PM CST
OUTRAGEOUS wrote:
I was married to a USA citizen, GI stationed in Panama and later we moved to the US. After frequent abuse and beatings, and all that, we got separated and I moved back to Panama. Eight months after I came back to Panama, we started talking again and decided to give it another shot, this time in my turf, that is Panama.

We conceived a son, he is now 14, my only son (I have 2 more girls), born in 1993. My now ex, then hubby, had to go back to the US, since he was not in the military and with no remarkable skills that he could use to find work in Panama, which he didn't, besides he never managed to learn the language. Upon returning to the US, while I was still pregnant (6 months), he was suppose to find a job, save money and bring us back to the US after the babe was born. Needless to say, it never happened. I haven't seen him or heard from him since March 1994, when, after a very angry conversation, we decided to go our separate ways, for good. He never knew his son. Have never sent him a penny for his support, ever.

Now. Since that time I have spent endless times at the US Embassy trying to seek assistance for this. They have a set of requirements that I cannot comply with, for example: provide the school transcripts of the US to prove that he was living in the US at a certain time... Duh! How am I supposed to get those?



OOPS, Sorry, I hardly ever post anything, this sure did get my attention, I have lived through the SAME situation, my Daughter has an American Passport, SSN, she is American, I have written to many Government Offices to no avail, she is an American Citizen, born Abroad, and I have a Certificate for it, nevertheless, Mr.Deadbeat has done NOTHING in 8 loooong years! Yes, I agree, this is outrageous, since I have lived in the US, and there are signs everywhere saying, "PAY YOUR CHILD SUPPORT" or else go to jail!
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LiveWyre
Woo WooTown, Texas USA
Posted: Jun 13, 2008, 8:08 PM CST


contact the Office of The Attorney General to see if there will be any Reciprocity issues that can effect enforcement. They can tell you what to do .
http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/
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2catchastar
Corning, New York USA
Posted: Jun 13, 2008, 8:39 PM CST
You said he was a GI, check with the milatary he was with, there not to keen on this kind of thing. and because he is out now there may be nothing they can do but they might surprise you and give you some needed information.
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OUTRAGEOUS
San Juan, Panama Panama
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 12:36 PM CST
You guys are amazing, truly wonderful.. I have gotten much more advise from all of you, than from any authority I have called.

I finally found Mr. Deadbeat's SSN No. Is there a website that might allow me to enter this info (name and SSN) and that will let me see his most recent info? Such as current or last known address and phone number?

I truly appreciate it.
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OUTRAGEOUS
San Juan, Panama Panama
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 3:55 PM CST
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