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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 9:33 PM CST
Scans see 'gay brain differences

The study suggests sexual preference is set in the womb

The brains of gay men and women look like those found in straight people of the opposite sex, research suggests.

The Swedish study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences journal, compared the size of the brain's halves in 90 adults.

Gay men and straight women had halves of a similar size, while the right side was bigger in lesbian women and straight men.

A UK scientist said this was evidence sexual preference was set in the womb.

"As far as I'm concerned there is no argument any more - if you are gay, you are born gay"

Dr Qazi Rahman
Queen Mary, University of London


Scientists have noticed for some time that homosexual people of both sexes have differences in certain cognitive abilities, suggesting there may be subtle differences in their brain structure.

This is the first time, however, that scientists have used brain scanners to try to look for the source of those differences.

A group of 90 healthy gay and straight adults, men and women, were scanned by the Karolinska Institute scientists to measure the volume of both sides, or hemispheres, of their brain.

When these results were collected, it was found that lesbian women and straight men shared a particular "asymmetry" in their hemisphere size, while straight women and gay men had no difference between the size of the different halves of their brain.

In other words, structurally, at least, gay men were more like straight women, and gay women more like straight men.

A further experiment found that in one particular area of the brain, the amygdala, there were other significant differences.

In heterosexual men and lesbian women, there were more nerve "connections" in the right side of the amygdala, compared with the left.

The reverse, with more neural connections in the left amygdala, was the case in homosexual men and straight women.

The Karolinska team said that these differences could not be mainly explained by "learned" effects, but needed another mechanism to set them, either before or after birth.

'Fight, flight or mate'

Dr Qazi Rahman, a lecturer in cognitive biology at Queen Mary, University of London, said that he believed that these brain differences were laid down early in foetal development.

"As far as I'm concerned there is no argument any more - if you are gay, you are born gay," he said.

The amygdala, he said, was important because of its role in "orientating", or directing, the rest of the brain in response to an emotional stimulus - be it during the "fight or flight" response, or the presence of a potential mate.

"In other words, the brain network which determines what sexual orientation actually 'orients' towards is similar between gay men and straight women, and between lesbian women and straight men.

"This makes sense given that gay men have a sexual preference which is like that of women in general, that is, preferring men, and vice versa for lesbian women."


-BBC News-



So is the debate finally over between nature and nurture???????????



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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 9:36 PM CST
Hugz_n_Kissez wrote:
Scans see 'gay brain differences

The study suggests sexual preference is set in the womb

The brains of gay men and women look like those found in straight people of the opposite sex, research suggests.

The Swedish study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences journal, compared the size of the brain's halves in 90 adults.

Gay men and straight women had halves of a similar size, while the right side was bigger in lesbian women and straight men.

A UK scientist said this was evidence sexual preference was set in the womb.

"As far as I'm concerned there is no argument any more - if you are gay, you are born gay"

Dr Qazi Rahman
Queen Mary, University of London

Scientists have noticed for some time that homosexual people of both sexes have differences in certain cognitive abilities, suggesting there may be subtle differences in their brain structure.

This is the first time, however, that scientists have used brain scanners to try to look for the source of those differences.

A group of 90 healthy gay and straight adults, men and women, were scanned by the Karolinska Institute scientists to measure the volume of both sides, or hemispheres, of their brain.

When these results were collected, it was found that lesbian women and straight men shared a particular "asymmetry" in their hemisphere size, while straight women and gay men had no difference between the size of the different halves of their brain.

In other words, structurally, at least, gay men were more like straight women, and gay women more like straight men.

A further experiment found that in one particular area of the brain, the amygdala, there were other significant differences.

In heterosexual men and lesbian women, there were more nerve "connections" in the right side of the amygdala, compared with the left.

The reverse, with more neural connections in the left amygdala, was the case in homosexual men and straight women.

The Karolinska team said that these differences could not be mainly explained by "learned" effects, but needed another mechanism to set them, either before or after birth.

'Fight, flight or mate'

Dr Qazi Rahman, a lecturer in cognitive biology at Queen Mary, University of London, said that he believed that these brain differences were laid down early in foetal development.

"As far as I'm concerned there is no argument any more - if you are gay, you are born gay," he said.

The amygdala, he said, was important because of its role in "orientating", or directing, the rest of the brain in response to an emotional stimulus - be it during the "fight or flight" response, or the presence of a potential mate.

"In other words, the brain network which determines what sexual orientation actually 'orients' towards is similar between gay men and straight women, and between lesbian women and straight men.

"This makes sense given that gay men have a sexual preference which is like that of women in general, that is, preferring men, and vice versa for lesbian women." -BBC News-
So is the debate finally over between nature and nurture???????????
dunno
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Hugz_n_Kissez
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Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 9:41 PM CST

I have always believed that people are born gay....and that they never had a choice in their sexual preference...just like hetero-sexual people don't have a choice when it comes to their sexual preference...you're attracted to who you're attracted to...plain and simple!!!!!!!!!!




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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 9:41 PM CST
Hugz_n_Kissez wrote:
I have always believed that people are born gay....and that they never had a choice in their sexual preference...just like hetero-sexual people don't have a choice when it comes to their sexual preference...you're attracted to who you're attracted to...plain and simple!!!!!!!!!!



So are they in a gay womb? dunno
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 9:43 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
So are they in a gay womb?



LOL....UMMMMMMMMM I don't think soooooooo...their brain is different...which is formed in the womb!!!!!!!!!


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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 9:44 PM CST
Hugz_n_Kissez wrote:
LOL....UMMMMMMMMM I don't think soooooooo...their brain is different...which is formed in the womb!!!!!!!!!


So was the penis gay that entered the womb? confused
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Indyfella
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Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 9:45 PM CST
Hugz_n_Kissez wrote:
LOL....UMMMMMMMMM I don't think soooooooo...their brain is different...which is formed in the womb!!!!!!!!!




PSSSSSSSSSSST: I'm screwing around with ya Hugz.....laugh
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 9:46 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
PSSSSSSSSSSST: I'm screwing around with ya Hugz.....



I know you are goofball!!!!!!!!!!!!


and it coulda been a gay penis!!!!!!!!!!


rolling eyes sticking out tongue dunno laugh
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 9:48 PM CST
Hugz_n_Kissez wrote:
I know you are goofball!!!!!!!!!!!!and it coulda been a gay penis!!!!!!!!!!




If so, would that make the baby a butt head? dunno
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 9:54 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
If so, would that make the baby a butt head?



Only if he isn't female.....sticking out tongue
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prncss4someone
Hopeful, Michigan USA
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 10:52 PM CST
drinking how do they explain bi?conversing
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solitare
Munchen, Bayern Germany
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 11:37 PM CST
"So are they in a gay womb?"


My first reaction was: 'oh great, now we'll hear tirades from all sorts that women in general are responsible for turning male babies into gays...especially by some of the really weird anti feminists and anti gay extreme religious groups...that will be the first part, followed by: women are to blame because of the rise in numbers of gay births...another day in the psycho ward of Life....what's next...
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prncss4someone
Hopeful, Michigan USA
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 11:38 PM CST
solitare wrote:
"So are they in a gay womb?"My first reaction was: 'oh great, now we'll hear tirades from all sorts that women in general are responsible for turning male babies into gays...especially by some of the really weird anti feminists and anti gay extreme religious groups...that will be the first part, followed by: women are to blame because of the rise in numbers of gay births...another day in the psycho ward of Life....what's next...




stained glass windows on cars?conversing wave
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DaisyChick
Portland, Oregon USA
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 11:39 PM CST
prncss4someone wrote:
how do they explain bi?


Just going to ask the same thing...

Very interesting thread though!
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prncss4someone
Hopeful, Michigan USA
Posted: Jun 16, 2008, 11:40 PM CST
DaisyChick wrote:
Just going to ask the same thing...

Very interesting thread though!



drinking yeh, I thought so too. cheers
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jun 17, 2008, 5:23 AM CST
solitare wrote:
"So are they in a gay womb?"My first reaction was: 'oh great, now we'll hear tirades from all sorts that women in general are responsible for turning male babies into gays...especially by some of the really weird anti feminists and anti gay extreme religious groups...that will be the first part, followed by: women are to blame because of the rise in numbers of gay births...another day in the psycho ward of Life....what's next...



Ask the OP. I'm just here for the party laugh
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easygoingguy
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Posted: Jun 17, 2008, 6:18 AM CST
Indyfella wrote:
So was the penis gay that entered the womb?
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prncss4someone
Hopeful, Michigan USA
Posted: Jun 17, 2008, 6:49 AM CST
Indyfella wrote:
So was the penis gay that entered the womb?





drinking It happens more than you'd thinkcool
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newinsouth
Aiken, South Carolina USA
Posted: Jun 17, 2008, 6:56 AM CST
prncss4someone wrote:
how do they explain bi?


People trying on their own to be like the majority.
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jun 17, 2008, 7:25 AM CST
I had read a simular report about the hypothalmus, at the base of the brain. The report stated that the size was different in homosexuals than hetros. But this was many tears ago, while I was still teaching for the ARCprofessor
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