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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:27 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
I'm not so worried about the trapped men....sorry about their luck. I'm more worried about children raised in poverty because of selfishness. I'm probably one of the few on here, but I think a 2 parent family is ideal.

Hope I'm not over-opinionated....



I know what you mean. thumbs up

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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:29 PM CST
daylily wrote:
Unwanted pregnancies,right now I have two a 15 and 19 year olds, is it to late for a abortion?


Was that a joke? shock
You don't like having them around, now that they are?

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oslojente
Olso Norway
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:30 PM CST
My point was, untill you've been there, and walked in any of these womens shoes, who are you to judge...
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:33 PM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
'Be careful' about what????? A member of Cs publicly announced she owned a brothel and also said she was happy with her lifestyle. I and others commended and congratulated her for her attitude towards her cchoices, others did not. So, there's nothing for me to be careful about. Perhaps you could try to understand what a person is saying, exactly , before you them????


I was the one who said something to her...and I could care less what she does or owns...nobody was judging her for owning a brothel....She was proven to be a lier about owning one...that was the issue... posted the article in her brothel thread that shows in Canada...prostitution...therefore brothels are illegal here...Therefore the license she said she got...she never got because you can't get a license for something illegal....

Here's the sections of the Criminal Code of Canada which show it's illegal....


Section 210 of the Criminal Code contains the bawdy-house offence:


s. 210(1) Every one who keeps a common bawdy-house is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.

(2) Every one who


is an inmate of a common bawdy-house,
is found, without lawful excuse, in a common bawdy-house, or
as owner, landlord, lessor, tenant, occupier, agent or otherwise having charge or control of any place, knowingly permits the place or any part thereof to be let or used for the purposes of a common bawdy-house, is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.(17)


Section 197(1) defines the relevant terms. “Common bawdy-house” means a place that is kept or occupied, or resorted to by one or more persons, for the purpose of prostitution or to practise acts of indecency. Courts have interpreted this to mean that any defined space is capable of being a bawdy-house, from a hotel, to a house, to a parking lot – provided that there is frequent or habitual use of it for the purposes of prostitution or for the practice of acts of indecency,(18) and the premises are controlled or managed by prostitutes or individuals with a right or interest in that space.(19) Further, the test used to determine whether an act is indecent is a community standard of tolerance.(20) Within this framework, the interpretation of indecency will depend on context, taking into account factors such as consent, the composition of any audience and the level of privacy of the room, community reputation of the place, and any harm caused.(21) For example, if the room is private, or if there is no actual physical contact between a client and an entertainer, then an act is less likely to be labelled “indecent.”(22)

Courts have also held that to be found guilty of keeping a common bawdy-house a person must have some degree of control over the care and management of the premises and must participate to some extent in the illicit activities involved there – although this does not necessarily mean participating in sexual acts.(23) A prostitute may even be found guilty of keeping a common bawdy-house where he or she has used his or her own residence alone for the purposes of prostitution.(24)

Alternatively, to be found guilty of being an “inmate” of a bawdy-house, a person must be a resident or a regular occupant of the premises. To be guilty of being “found in” a bawdy-house, a person must have no lawful excuse for his or her presence and must have been explicitly found there by the police at the time of raid.(25) Finally, courts have said that to be guilty of knowingly permitting the premises to be used for the purposes of a common bawdy house, a person must have actual control of the place and must have either acquiesced to or encouraged its use for that purpose.(26)



So you might want to find out what the real issue is the next time...a) before you blame the wrong person and b) before you find out what the real issue is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:34 PM CST
oslojente wrote:
My point was, untill you've been there, and walked in any of these womens shoes, who are you to judge...




How many women who have done this, do you know?



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daylily
alabama, Alabama USA
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:35 PM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
Was that a joke?
You don't like having them around, now that they are?
It was sort of a joke they are giving me lots and lots of grief at the moment.I love them with all my heart, I just thought that would be tuff love.laugh
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oslojente
Olso Norway
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:37 PM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
How many women who have done this, do you know?



Oh, it's my turn again tonight...

I don't know anyone who's done this, as far as I know, but people do things for different reasons,
and I'm not going to judge anyone for their choices in life...


Tell you what, when you have children, we could try to have this convo again...wine
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:38 PM CST

I may want to rob a bank because I don't have the $ to keep my hot tub expenses going.

Of course, no one should judge me unless they've walked in my shoes either.
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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:45 PM CST
Hugz_n_Kissez wrote:
I was the one who said something to her...and I could care less what she does or owns...nobody was judging her for owning a brothel....She was proven to be a lier about owning one...that was the issue... posted the article in her brothel thread that shows in Canada...prostitution...therefore brothels are illegal here...Therefore the license she said she got...she never got because you can't get a license for something illegal....

So you might want to find out what the real issue is the next time...a) before you blame the wrong person and b) before you find out what the real issue is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Were you the only one who said something to her on the thread? If not, then i am not talking about you alone. Where in my post did i say 'only one person' thought she was wrong ??

Good for you to investigate everything one says and how legal/ illegal it may be. It's simple, you may have been against what she said because you thought she was a liar, but others may have done so because they considered her behaviour wrong!

This is exactly what i'm saying, if people are allowed to judge one person for supposedly running a brothel, then i have the right to give an opinion on the title of this thread.

It's my opinion, no matter how judgemental i seem.
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oslojente
Olso Norway
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:47 PM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
Were you the only one who said something to her on the thread? If not, then i am not talking about you alone. Where in my post did i say 'only one person' thought she was wrong ??

Good for you to investigate everything one says and how legal/ illegal it may be. It's simple, you may have been against what she said because you thought she was a liar, but others may have done so because they considered her behaviour wrong!

This is exactly what i'm saying, if people are allowed to judge one person for supposedly running a brothel, then i have the right to give an opinion on the title of this thread.

It's my opinion, no matter how judgemental i seem.
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I think you should go back and have a lok at the thread you're talking about...yawn D'oh!
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:49 PM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
Were you the only one who said something to her on the thread? If not, then i am not talking about you alone. Where in my post did i say 'only one person' thought she was wrong ??

Good for you to investigate everything one says and how legal/ illegal it may be. It's simple, you may have been against what she said because you thought she was a liar, but others may have done so because they considered her behaviour wrong!

This is exactly what i'm saying, if people are allowed to judge one person for supposedly running a brothel, then i have the right to give an opinion on the title of this thread.

It's my opinion, no matter how judgemental i seem.



I don't have to investigate anything....I already knew it.....because I live in Canada..and I happen to be a paralegal who knows the laws inside and out here...but for me to just say it was illegal here...she would have just denied it...so I had to post something to show...ummmmmmmm yeah it's illegal...so no I don't have to investigate what I already knew...just had to show others that it was the truth!!!!!!!




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jampet
wexford, Wexford Ireland
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:50 PM CST
oslojente wrote:
Oh, it's my turn again tonight...

I don't know anyone who's done this, as far as I know, but people do things for different reasons,
and I'm not going to judge anyone for their choices in life...Tell you what, when you have children, we could try to have this convo again...

sorry, but i don't think there is EVER a good enough reason to have a child with someone, when you are not both in love and want to have a child together ( remember the OP said we are not talking abut the accidents)
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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:52 PM CST
oslojente wrote:
Oh, it's my turn again tonight...

I don't know anyone who's done this, as far as I know, but people do things for different reasons,
and I'm not going to judge anyone for their choices in life...Tell you what, when you have children, we could try to have this convo again...

I asked you a simple question so ' tonight being your turn' is utter nonsense. Quit playing a victim because you keep coming back to the thread!


I asked that because i have friends who have done this and come to me telling me how frustrated they are. I give them my honest opinion because they ask for it. When a young woman with her whole life ahead of her comes to me saying her 60yr old husband is only good for her bills and then tells me to 'hook' her up with a male friend, while she is married, then, i guess i don't have to have children to know it's wrong to have them for the wrong reasons, in the first place.

Others have shared my opinion on the thread and they have kids of their own. What's your advise to them?


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oslojente
Olso Norway
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:54 PM CST
jampet wrote:
sorry, but i don't think there is EVER a good enough reason to have a child with someone, when you are not both in love and want to have a child together ( remember the OP said we are not talking abut the accidents)


No, and I absolutely agree, but things happen.. and things aren't as black and white as they seem...
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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 4:55 PM CST
jampet wrote:
sorry, but i don't think there is EVER a good enough reason to have a child with someone, when you are not both in love and want to have a child together ( remember the OP said we are not talking abut the accidents)



I think even she knows that, she just wants to make it seem like i don't know anything about anything.


Oslo, it's clear your purpose on the thread is to ' say anything', just to disagree with me.

There goes your credibility.


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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 5:00 PM CST
oslojente wrote:
No, and I absolutely agree, but things happen.. and things aren't as black and white as they seem...



I just told you i know women who have purposely trapped men with pregnancies. I also said they have advised me to do the same. Should i take their advise, then come back on here next year, and give an opinion on how right or wrong it is?

I thought it was 'black and white' from the beginning of the thread????

Do you still want to argue that i am not qualified to have an opinion on the matter?

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oslojente
Olso Norway
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 5:01 PM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
I think even she knows that, she just wants to make it seem like i don't know anything about anything.Oslo, it's clear your purpose on the thread is to ' say anything' , just to disagree with me.

There goes your credibility.




Who said I'm disagreeing with you???

I just think judgement, untill you know all the facts and till you've been there is wrong...
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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 5:08 PM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
There's a new breed in town. They do it for pemanent residence in Europe and America. I was also advised to do it.



oslojente wrote:
Who said I'm disagreeing with you???

I just think judgement, untill you know all the facts and till you've been there is wrong...


shock

I know english is not your first language, but, do you NOT realise how absurd you sound?

Again, should i first take the bad advise, to be able to give an opinion?
You are clearly arguing for the sake of it and no, i will not make a mistake, to realise it's wrong!



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morganlee
Qawra, Majjistral Malta
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 5:12 PM CST
My daughter has a friend who has 3 different children with 3 different Father's, she does not work and

openly states she didn't like work and purposely got pregnant to get a house, and goverment benefits. The children go to there Fathers most weekends and she is out. How she lives here life is here busy, butit does make me angry that it is the tax payers that keep her in this lifestyle
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oslojente
Olso Norway
Posted: Jun 18, 2008, 5:17 PM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
I know english is not your first language, but, do you NOT realise how absurd you sound?

Again, should i first take the bad advise, to be able to give an opinion?
You are clearly arguing for the sake of it and no, i will not make a mistake, to realise it's wrong!



Just doesn't sink in, does it...

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, merely not to judge people for their choices based on whatever reasons...
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