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Smoking should be banned in all public places

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Smoking should be banned in all public places

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kidatheart
Southern BC/Lamont, Alberta Canada
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:22 PM CST
kkitty wrote:
I agree with you. Honestly there is so much pollution that effects everyones health and it seems so lame that people always want to blame the smokers.
one car causes how much pollution in a day?
Does this not cost?
how many studies are there on how many people get cancer just from the air pollution ?
personally I know what it does to me. I pay for it three times over.
there are so many different issues with health care cost and I am just saying in my own opinion that I think the smokers are a small part of the picture.



Funny you mention all the studies that have been done. Who profits from these "studies"?

We all know what is and isn't good for us, so why don't we choose to do what is? confused

The mayor of the town I'm moving to took $70,000 that was town money to improve the community and gave it to "someone" to do a study on what should be done with the money. Oddly enough there was nothing left afeter the study was done except a piece of paper stating there wasn't enough money left to do anything with the remainder.laugh

This was several years ago and she's still the mayor. Smott peeples!rolling on the floor laughing
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:24 PM CST



People have known for 50 years it's unhealthy to smoke. If people didn't want tobacco products, they would cease to exist.

While I'm making an attempt to quit, if someone else want's to smoke....have at it. It's like anything else, it's a pesonal choice. I don't care to dictate my values onto someone else.
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:25 PM CST
kidatheart wrote:
Funny you mention all the studies that have been done. Who profits from these "studies"?

We all know what is and isn't good for us, so why don't we choose to do what is?

The mayor of the town I'm moving to took $70,000 that was town money to improve the community and gave it to "someone" to do a study on what should be done with the money. Oddly enough there was nothing left afeter the study was done except a piece of paper stating there wasn't enough money left to do anything with the remainder.

This was several years ago and she's still the mayor. Smott peeples!



What makes it worse.....we elect these people. Maybe it's a reflection of ourselves? dunno
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kkitty
Minnesota USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:25 PM CST
smoking
I do it.
not only addiction

I like it and just like I want to have that orgasm. I want that smoke
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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:27 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
People have known for 50 years it's unhealthy to smoke. If people didn't want tobacco products, they would cease to exist.

While I'm making an attempt to quit, if someone else want's to smoke....have at it. It's like anything else, it's a pesonal choice. I don't care to dictate my values onto someone else.


The argument that it is a personal choice is nonsense. If it were that kind of issue, every drug under the sun would be available to you on your local grocery store shelves. Tabacco is a lethal drug. It is sold to you so the tabacco industry can make money. Pure and simple. Smokers are pawns. Smokers are being exploited by the tabacco industry. The idea it is about choice is a fallacy.
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kidatheart
Southern BC/Lamont, Alberta Canada
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:28 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
What makes it worse.....we elect these people. Maybe it's a reflection of ourselves?



I didn't vote for any of the current politicians, whether it be municipally, provincially or federally. professor
I've even campaigned against some of the one's in power at the moment.
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:29 PM CST
Portiea wrote:
The argument that it is a personal choice is nonsense. If it were that kind of issue, every drug under the sun would be available to you on your local grocery store shelves. Tabacco is a lethal drug. It is sold to you so the tabacco industry can make money. Pure and simple. Smokers are pawns. Smokers are being exploited by the tabacco industry. The idea it is about choice is a fallacy.


So it's the HUGE corporations going after the helpless little weaklings?
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kkitty
Minnesota USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:30 PM CST
I think this holds true with almost everything that you buy.
people pay $200.00 for a pair of tennis shoes that cost $2.00 to make
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kidatheart
Southern BC/Lamont, Alberta Canada
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:31 PM CST
I admit, I have a weakness for petroleum products, as well as tobacco smoke.crying
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:31 PM CST
kidatheart wrote:
I admit, I have a weakness for petroleum products, as well as tobacco smoke.



rolling on the floor laughing It beats walking to work....for sure laugh
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:32 PM CST
kidatheart wrote:
I admit, I have a weakness for petroleum products, as well as tobacco smoke.



OH SHIT........now it's BIG oil.....
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kkitty
Minnesota USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:32 PM CST
kidatheart wrote:
I admit, I have a weakness for petroleum products, as well as tobacco smoke.



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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:34 PM CST



I want to see sodas banned...they serve no social good. Ban BIG Coke grin
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kkitty
Minnesota USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:37 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
I want to see sodas banned...they serve no social good. Ban BIG Coke

yes, think of the dental cost. laugh
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WhatUwish4
Jacksonville, Florida USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:38 PM CST
kidatheart wrote:
Funny you mention all the studies that have been done. Who profits from these "studies"?

We all know what is and isn't good for us, so why don't we choose to do what is?

The mayor of the town I'm moving to took $70,000 that was town money to improve the community and gave it to "someone" to do a study on what should be done with the money. Oddly enough there was nothing left afeter the study was done except a piece of paper stating there wasn't enough money left to do anything with the remainder.

This was several years ago and she's still the mayor. Smott peeples!


Actually, you can get most of the info right off the net - just put in a company name in your area along with "Emissions" or "Particulate Matter" and you should be able to find some sort of trail. They all have to have air quality permits and you can see what they are emitting, etc. You wouldn't believe what I found when I did it once.

WE up and moved. No kidding. It was THAT bad!
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:39 PM CST
WhatUwish4 wrote:
Actually, you can get most of the info right off the net - just put in a company name in your area along with "Emissions" or "Particulate Matter" and you should be able to find some sort of trail. They all have to have air quality permits and you can see what they are emitting, etc. You wouldn't believe what I found when I did it once.

WE up and moved. No kidding. It was THAT bad!



Must have lived in Washington DC........laugh
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KHD100
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:39 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
Anyone ever seen a death certificate that says, "died from 2nd hand smoke"? You won't find it....sorry



Actually there is documented medical records of people getting terminal cancer from second had smoke.
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WhatUwish4
Jacksonville, Florida USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:40 PM CST
P.S. Once you know what chemicals are involved, check out the HAPS list and see where it ranks in terms of toxicity. There's something like 26 hazardous chemicals listed (I don't remember the exact amount). It will start with the worst an work it's way down. It's been a few years, but that's how it used to be.
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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:40 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
So it's the HUGE corporations going after the helpless little weaklings?


Don't know why the big caps on huge...don't know how huge the tabacco industry is...but I believe there is documentation to show that 30, 40, 50 years ago when it became known by the industry just how lethal tabacco is, it was covered up. And, yes, as a former smoker, one who smoked heavily for years, I believe smokers are weak...allowing yourself, your life, to be controlled by a chemical substance is a weakness. However large or not large, however powerful or not powerful the tabacco industry is or isn't, it has only one purpose and that is to make money from the weakness of others.

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horselady5
Cincinnati, Ohio, Iowa USA
Posted: Jun 22, 2008, 10:41 PM CST
There should be places where smoking is allowed and places where smoking isn't allowed.

If you don't smoke you don't go to the places where it is allowed. I don't smoke. But my right as a non smoker does not mean that I can tell others that they can't smoke.

They can't smoke by me if we are in a place where smoking is not allowed, but I feel that there should be a place where they can smoke. I don't want to live in a police state.


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