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I would really like to know?????

New York dating
2catchastar
Corning, New York USA
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:05 PM CST
It seems that for as long as I have known a male he has been in one way or another oblivious to what can hurt a girl/women.
They never seem to remember anything you tell them. half the time they dont remember what they had told you. And when your hurt, or get angery they really don't understand why? And while they are trying to figure it out, some how they manage to make it all fall back on you! I have 2 older brothers so I have known guys a long time! Guys do you ever take in concideration what we may feel like when you make comments that will hurt? Do you really not know when you are causing a heart to break? Or do you just not care enough.
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wolfpack
post falls, Idaho USA
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:06 PM CST
Before i was like that. Someone opened my eyes. Iam better for it. Thanks
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Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:11 PM CST
2catchastar wrote:
It seems that for as long as I have known a male he has been in one way or another oblivious to what can hurt a girl/women.
They never seem to remember anything you tell them. half the time they dont remember what they had told you. And when your hurt, or get angery they really don't understand why? And while they are trying to figure it out, some how they manage to make it all fall back on you! I have 2 older brothers so I have known guys a long time! Guys do you ever take in concideration what we may feel like when you make comments that will hurt? Do you really not know when you are causing a heart to break? Or do you just not care enough.
In all honesty when we see a women crying or hurting we are like a deer in the headlights.

Really have no idea what to do. I have said many things that I thought were the correct things to say only to find out just the opposite. D'oh!

we are not really mean just clueless. uncertain
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Bowie
winter haven, Florida USA
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:12 PM CST
sorry you feel that way. Not all men are oblivious to their partners desires, wishes or what makes them happy. Lots of women have this problem too. I have found I am quite empathetic which has kept me out of that sort of trouble. Everyone is different.
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Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:12 PM CST
It depends.

In order to be honest, I will have to say, what sometimes hurts a girl, I don't feel she should be hurt about. It's being wired different that often brings this about.

I don't necessarily throw this back on them, because its not my fault, OR theirs, that they think and feel differently. When I say, "I don't feel that you should be upset over this." I'm not attempting to invalidate her feelings, or make her feel like its her fault that she feels this way, I'm stating how "I" see it.

Of course, at this point they're so upset, THEY don't care how I FEEL, so of course, I'm the bad guy, yet again...sigh

Dunno if this helps. I hope it does...dunno
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Tennessee singles
Jackson
Powell, Tennessee USA
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:15 PM CST
2catchastar wrote:
It seems that for as long as I have known a male he has been in one way or another oblivious to what can hurt a girl/women.
They never seem to remember anything you tell them. half the time they dont remember what they had told you. And when your hurt, or get angery they really don't understand why? And while they are trying to figure it out, some how they manage to make it all fall back on you! I have 2 older brothers so I have known guys a long time! Guys do you ever take in concideration what we may feel like when you make comments that will hurt? Do you really not know when you are causing a heart to break? Or do you just not care enough.


Re: "oblivious to...hurt:" Sorry to tell you, but I suspect the latter (oblivious to hurt!)! Even when you tell them, "this means that you are 'clueless,'" they seem to PREFER to remain ignorant!! It can be yawn Not to mention, frustrated frustrated Suggest that you tell such guys, "So long! Farewell! Bon voyage! (ETC.)!!! And--oh, yeah--what is that about "the horse you rode in on?"

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allready
portland, Oregon USA
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:16 PM CST
Might clear up some misconceptions, then again might not.
When watching TV hugging is always fine because I can still see the screen. Kissing should only be done during timeouts and commercials. Questions should also be limited to this period as you stand a much better chance of getting an immediate response.
If I am doing anything that involves directions, tools, or sharp objects do not interrupt me and never offer to help.

When we are watching your show and I change the channels during a commercial do not hassle me that they are over to change the channel back. I always know when the timing is right. Also, when we are channel surfing do not ask me to go back, there was a good reason why I skipped it.

Don't be upset that I didn't think the romantic movie was warm and fuzzy. I wasn't paying attention to the dialog, just the naked body parts and the sex scenes.

Do not ask me to do household chores in front of my friends. Even if I do not have to do them until some time in the future. And don't be negative when you give me more than one to do. I am proud of the fact that I did one and can easily ignore the other nine.

If you need help with the laundry I am more than willing to carry it from the bedroom to the washer. In my mind this is half the chore and I am now free to return to the couch.

The floor is considered an acceptable clothing storage location.

If I mention that a male friend of mine is allowed to do something it is not necessary for you to call his wife/girlfriend to discuss it.

If you don't like the way I am driving close your eyes. And I would appreciate it if you would refrain from making that reverse inhaling alarmed noise. I haven't hit anything yet and if I do it will be your fault.

Never ask me to purchase feminine products. Assume that I will come home with the wrong thing.

There is no such thing as too many CDs.

When I say she has a great set of tits or ass I am not thinking to myself "...as compared to yours...". so there is no point in starting an argument over it. I don't start with you over Brad Pitt or one of those other empty headed losers.

Buying tools is a God-given right. It does not matter if we need them or not. The same holds true for sporting goods.

I go clothes shopping to buy, never to look.

Just tell me what you want me to wear before I get dressed. And remember that this takes me less than ten minutes no matter what the occasion is. After all I am getting dressed, not getting ready.

Don't ask me if I prefer one outfit over another or if a certain accessory should be worn or not. I consider this a no win situation and would rather just wait for you to get dressed while watching TV.

If you want me to put the seat down when I am finished then you should leave the seat up when you are finished. It's only fair. And stop giving me a hard time about missing the bowl. What do you expect from an organ that has a brain of its own.

Please do not distract me when I am reading in the bathroom. It only causes me to lose my place, have to re-read the section, and further extends my time in there.

Assume when we are in the video store that I am not interested in a romantic comedy. This will greatly expedite our time there.

Alcohol is one of the four food groups and as such must be consumed in adequate quantities daily.

No good can ever come from discussing past relationships.

I will cook anything as long as it is on the BBQ.

Yelling to me across the house sounds exactly like stadium crowd background noise to me. I am not ignoring you.



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2catchastar
Corning, New York USA
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:18 PM CST
Jackson wrote:
Re: "oblivious to...hurt:" Sorry to tell you, but I suspect the latter (oblivious to hurt!)! Even when you tell them, "this means that you are 'clueless,'" they seem to PREFER to remain ignorant!! It can be Not to mention, Suggest that you tell such guys, "So long! Farewell! Bon voyage! (ETC.)!!! And--oh, yeah--what is that about "the horse you rode in on?"


Good advice!!! I thought I had done that, but to my surprise, I guess they never heard me tell them! Yep I was attacked by both ex's today! Not a happy camper right now!
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Ricco
London, Outer London, England UK
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:18 PM CST
2catchastar wrote:
It seems that for as long as I have known a male he has been in one way or another oblivious to what can hurt a girl/women.
They never seem to remember anything you tell them. half the time they dont remember what they had told you. And when your hurt, or get angery they really don't understand why? And while they are trying to figure it out, some how they manage to make it all fall back on you! I have 2 older brothers so I have known guys a long time! Guys do you ever take in concideration what we may feel like when you make comments that will hurt? Do you really not know when you are causing a heart to break? Or do you just not care enough.


I admit that in the past I have made some comments, which may have touched someone’s feelings, Sorry, but believe me I didn't mean it. I never want to hurt someone’s feeling especially in my relationship with my Mrs. in the future very soon. I just care for her as much as you can imagine. I can imagine it and I enjoy hugging her and kissing her and telling her that I love her, and she tells me back that she loves me too. Have you ever heard of that before, which says, when you are born in this life, someone else is born for you to love you and to be with you?heart wings
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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:19 PM CST
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I am FINALLY beginning to see men really are from different planets.. or we are.. whichever.. but definitely NOT the same one. .. we really DO think and act and process thoughts differently.

I'm learning to see and accept that haha idea light bulb
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Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:21 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
I am FINALLY beginning to see men really are from different planets.. or we are.. whichever.. but definitely NOT the same one. .. we really DO think and act and process thoughts differently.

I'm learning to see and accept that haha


Yep. And I've been hanging around Uranus too long. I'm starting to develop a taste for methane...gigglerolling eyes wink
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Tennessee singles
Jackson
Powell, Tennessee USA
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:22 PM CST
2catchastar wrote:
It seems that for as long as I have known a male he has been in one way or another oblivious to what can hurt a girl/women.
They never seem to remember anything you tell them. half the time they dont remember what they had told you. And when your hurt, or get angery they really don't understand why? And while they are trying to figure it out, some how they manage to make it all fall back on you! I have 2 older brothers so I have known guys a long time! Guys do you ever take in concideration what we may feel like when you make comments that will hurt? Do you really not know when you are causing a heart to break? Or do you just not care enough.


Re: "oblivious to...hurt:" Sorry to tell you, but I suspect the latter (oblivious to hurt!)! Even when you tell them, "this means that you are 'clueless,'" they seem to PREFER to remain ignorant!! It can be yawn Not to mention, frustrated frustrated Suggest that you tell such guys, "So long! Farewell! Bon voyage! (ETC.)!!! And--oh, yeah--what is that about "...and the horse you rode in on?"

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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:22 PM CST
Galactic_bodhi wrote:
Yep. And I've been hanging around Uranus too long. I'm starting to develop a taste for methane...


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2catchastar
Corning, New York USA
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:22 PM CST
allready wrote:
Might clear up some misconceptions, then again might not.
When watching TV hugging is always fine because I can still see the screen. Kissing should only be done during timeouts and commercials. Questions should also be limited to this period as you stand a much better chance of getting an immediate response.
If I am doing anything that involves directions, tools, or sharp objects do not interrupt me and never offer to help.

When we are watching your show and I change the channels during a commercial do not hassle me that they are over to change the channel back. I always know when the timing is right. Also, when we are channel surfing do not ask me to go back, there was a good reason why I skipped it.

Don't be upset that I didn't think the romantic movie was warm and fuzzy. I wasn't paying attention to the dialog, just the naked body parts and the sex scenes.

Do not ask me to do household chores in front of my friends. Even if I do not have to do them until some time in the future. And don't be negative when you give me more than one to do. I am proud of the fact that I did one and can easily ignore the other nine.

If you need help with the laundry I am more than willing to carry it from the bedroom to the washer. In my mind this is half the chore and I am now free to return to the couch.

The floor is considered an acceptable clothing storage location.

If I mention that a male friend of mine is allowed to do something it is not necessary for you to call his wife/girlfriend to discuss it.

If you don't like the way I am driving close your eyes. And I would appreciate it if you would refrain from making that reverse inhaling alarmed noise. I haven't hit anything yet and if I do it will be your fault.

Never ask me to purchase feminine products. Assume that I will come home with the wrong thing.

There is no such thing as too many CDs.

When I say she has a great set of tits or ass I am not thinking to myself "...as compared to yours...". so there is no point in starting an argument over it. I don't start with you over Brad Pitt or one of those other empty headed losers.

Buying tools is a God-given right. It does not matter if we need them or not. The same holds true for sporting goods.

I go clothes shopping to buy, never to look.

Just tell me what you want me to wear before I get dressed. And remember that this takes me less than ten minutes no matter what the occasion is. After all I am getting dressed, not getting ready.

Don't ask me if I prefer one outfit over another or if a certain accessory should be worn or not. I consider this a no win situation and would rather just wait for you to get dressed while watching TV.

If you want me to put the seat down when I am finished then you should leave the seat up when you are finished. It's only fair. And stop giving me a hard time about missing the bowl. What do you expect from an organ that has a brain of its own.

Please do not distract me when I am reading in the bathroom. It only causes me to lose my place, have to re-read the section, and further extends my time in there.

Assume when we are in the video store that I am not interested in a romantic comedy. This will greatly expedite our time there.

Alcohol is one of the four food groups and as such must be consumed in adequate quantities daily.

No good can ever come from discussing past relationships.

I will cook anything as long as it is on the BBQ.

Yelling to me across the house sounds exactly like stadium crowd background noise to me. I am not ignoring you. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------



I think you have it about right! LOL
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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:22 PM CST
2catchastar wrote:
Good advice!!! I thought I had done that, but to my surprise, I guess they never heard me tell them! Yep I was attacked by both ex's today! Not a happy camper right now!



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alex_192
sarasota USA
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:29 PM CST
2catchastar wrote:
Good advice!!! I thought I had done that, but to my surprise, I guess they never heard me tell them! Yep I was attacked by both ex's today! Not a happy camper right now!


i am totally confused

from yur post in dierent threads i know only two ex's

from one i am not surpriced he hurt you
the other one it surprice me he hurt you

if i have them right, i will say the second one might be some miscomunications

we are wired diferent (women ae from venus men from mars)
sometimes we percibe things diferents, and we are unable to see the female view point
others altught we perceive them diferent we succed to see the female view point



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2catchastar
Corning, New York USA
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:34 PM CST
alex_192 wrote:
i am totally confused

Your right! The second one it was a miscommunication, A long story, But he seems to think we are not together because I have a fear of commitment. And that is far from the reason!

from yur post in dierent threads i know only two ex's

from one i am not surpriced he hurt you
the other one it surprice me he hurt you

if i have them right, i will say the second one might be some miscomunications

we are wired diferent (women ae from venus men from mars)
sometimes we percibe things diferents, and we are unable to see the female view point
others altught we perceive them diferent we succed to see the female view point
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Random_Stranger
Made IN, California USA
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:34 PM CST
Well, guys can be unaware. I cannot tell if women are showing interest in me unless it is obvious. To women, they can get where they expect a man to "Just Know" things too, in order to be fair. But the thing is, when someone is hurting, I sympathize, yet I do not know the best way to handle things. I will admit, that when it comes to my time, I can be a bit selfish, as I learned from experience, to not let anyone make you feel bad or guilty into doing something, because I have always paid the ultimate price. So now I do whatever I want and can care less about what anyone tries to make me do or feel.

On the same side, I have people who only come to me in need. This does get annoying and when it happens, I wish to not be there. Needy people especially! I already know I am a man, I do not need a needy woman to come to me when she is in distress to validate myself as a man. That is the absolute worst thing anyone can do. When someone is needy, there is already a problem. How often do you go to buy a car that is already in need of repair prior to purchasing it? Hardly ever.

Only one with knowledge, experience, and willing to put fourth the time and effort will seek out those classic beauties. The average person will learn to love what they have in time, and make those same sacrifices. If someone is needy, perhaps they must mend themselves before taking on a task like love, for love is not given, it is practiced.


Not saying you are needy, I am just making a statement. Hope this helps.


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England dating
Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:35 PM CST
hunter1112 wrote:
In all honesty when we see a women crying or hurting we are like a deer in the headlights.

Really have no idea what to do. I have said many things that I thought were the correct things to say only to find out just the opposite.

we are not really mean just clueless.



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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Jun 23, 2008, 6:37 PM CST
Random_Stranger wrote:
Well, guys can be unaware. I cannot tell if women are showing interest in me unless it is obvious. To women, they can get where they expect a man to "Just Know" things too, in order to be fair. But the thing is, when someone is hurting, I sympathize, yet I do not know the best way to handle things. I will admit, that when it comes to my time, I can be a bit selfish, as I learned from experience, to not let anyone make you feel bad or guilty into doing something, because I have always paid the ultimate price. So now I do whatever I want and can care less about what anyone tries to make me do or feel.

On the same side, I have people who only come to me in need. This does get annoying and when it happens, I wish to not be there. Needy people especially! I already know I am a man, I do not need a needy woman to come to me when she is in distress to validate myself as a man. That is the absolute worst thing anyone can do. When someone is needy, there is already a problem. How often do you go to buy a car that is already in need of repair prior to purchasing it? Hardly ever.

Only one with knowledge, experience, and willing to put fourth the time and effort will seek out those classic beauties. The average person will learn to love what they have in time, and make those same sacrifices. If someone is needy, perhaps they must mend themselves before taking on a task like love, for love is not given, it is practiced.Not saying you are needy, I am just making a statement. Hope this helps.Faust


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