Where have all of the beautiful 45yr olds gone?

created by: rasgumby | Jun 25, 2:17 AM CST
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Where have all of the beautiful 45yr olds gone?




Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 1:27 PM CST
The poll/thread about men that was replicated in the Where Are All The Beautiful 45 yr old women thread was done on April 27.

The first day I posted on CS forums was April 26. I don't remember seeing this thread or being aware of it and did not post on it. It was brought back last night (night for me here) when I was sleeping, so again I never saw it. That men did not take offense to it is surely something for them to explain. If such things are said about men and they do not take offense to them, how will things change? If they do not object to being treated this way, then it will not change.

I agree women do object to being spoken of badly and treated badly, but it is not a matter of temperment. It is mostly about culture. If you look historically at the place of women in society, for thousands of years, and even currently in many cultures, women are treated extremely badly. It is no different than racism. Their positon in society is often horrifying and brutal, and in Western culture that has only changed in the past 100 years; in Victorian times, women were the legal property of their fathers or husbands and if they didn't marry by the age of 30 they were destined to be unmarried. Equal rights and equal attitudes are still not within the realm of life of women today, in modern Western society, though it has certainly improved in legals ways. However, attitudes toward women, especially aging women, are cruel...I observe it all the time. The sexual attacks on Hillary Clinton as she ran for president were appalling, but not she or anyone else seriously objected because those objections would have resulted in more attacks. But they were the type of things that would not hve been said if she were of another race.

The oppression against women goes back since the beginning of civilization and is no different than the oppression of racism. To suggest that bigotry has gone completely is naive and disingenuous. Current attitudes toward women linger in the type of things listed on your thread, which is one reason why I objected to it. The other reason is that I see constantly the put down and rejection of older women on these singles sites---especially on pof, but here and elsewhere also. And I also see a great deal of of it coming from the European men and have lifed in cultures where it is extremely prevalent.

If men chose not to take offense at the previous thread, that is their choice. If I were a man, I probably would have. That women didn't, I think that reflects the prevailing attitude set by men. I don't believe in my thread I called anyone stupid. I rarely use that word.

When you compare the situation of men in our society and suggest it is equal to that of women, I think this shows a lack of a broader vision of history and culture.
dcj22 wrote:
So, Ras, did you send personal email to everyone who responded to this poll?
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dcj22
Somewhere, Minnesota USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 1:43 PM CST
xoredheadxo wrote:
I'm getting ready to turn 49....and while I am a little down about it...I am still proud of who I am. This guy is definitely NOT my type....nor would I let him bring me down.

I have quite unexpectedly fallen in love with a guy from CS who is actually 35 and I love him with all my heart!!!!!

You are so right...there are plenty of great guys out there who a value a woman for who she is!!!!!




Don't be down about your birthday beautiful! Celebrate all you've come through in your life and that you have a really great man that appreciates all of who you are to share the rest of it with you. Tell Mark I'm happy for you both, please.
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OUTRAGEOUS
San Juan, Panama Panama
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 1:54 PM CST
rasgumby wrote:
Thank you all!! Seriously!

Not one word of this thread is true or in any way reflects how I feel..

The entire thread was a test of the temperament of the women here and the double standards that they live by and place on us men here.

This entire thread.. title,, ALL questions and the opening paragraph are all an exact copy of another thread asking where have all the handsome 45 yr olds gone.

Ladys.. go read that thread and see the difference in how the men reacted. as far as that goes.. read how the women reacted also.

There were no nasty comments and it was laughed at......
yet.. when a guy ask the women the EXACT same thing.. the women all want to attack and bear claws.

The ONLY point here is............ Men fairly constantly get put down here and belittled, and most of the women think it is funny and cute...

but let the women get the same treatment and mass hysteria.

Lets try playing fair.


Excuse me??? dropping jaw
The ONLY point here is............ Men fairly constantly get put down here and belittled, and most of the women think it is funny and cute...

but let the women get the same treatment and mass hysteria.

Lets try playing fair
I think it says very little of you when you generalize and refer to us LADIES as suffering from "mass hysteria"...

And going to your original post... you asked for the whereabouts of BEAUTIFUL 45 Y/O... as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I felt completely qualified to answer your question...although it was not precisely Brad Pitt asking... one can only hope!
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alex_192
sarasota USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 2:29 PM CST
Portiea wrote:
The poll/thread about men that was replicated in the Where Are All The Beautiful 45 yr old women thread was done on April 27.

The first day I posted on CS forums was April 26. I don't remember seeing this thread or being aware of it and did not post on it. It was brought back last night (night for me here) when I was sleeping, so again I never saw it. That men did not take offense to it is surely something for them to explain. If such things are said about men and they do not take offense to them, how will things change? If they do not object to being treated this way, then it will not change.

I agree women do object to being spoken of badly and treated badly, but it is not a matter of temperment. It is mostly about culture. If you look historically at the place of women in society, for thousands of years, and even currently in many cultures, women are treated extremely badly. It is no different than racism. Their positon in society is often horrifying and brutal, and in Western culture that has only changed in the past 100 years; in Victorian times, women were the legal property of their fathers or husbands and if they didn't marry by the age of 30 they were destined to be unmarried. Equal rights and equal attitudes are still not within the realm of life of women today, in modern Western society, though it has certainly improved in legals ways. However, attitudes toward women, especially aging women, are cruel...I observe it all the time. The sexual attacks on Hillary Clinton as she ran for president were appalling, but not she or anyone else seriously objected because those objections would have resulted in more attacks. But they were the type of things that would not hve been said if she were of another race.

The oppression against women goes back since the beginning of civilization and is no different than the oppression of racism. To suggest that bigotry has gone completely is naive and disingenuous. Current attitudes toward women linger in the type of things listed on your thread, which is one reason why I objected to it. The other reason is that I see constantly the put down and rejection of older women on these singles sites---especially on pof, but here and elsewhere also. And I also see a great deal of of it coming from the European men and have lifed in cultures where it is extremely prevalent.

If men chose not to take offense at the previous thread, that is their choice. If I were a man, I probably would have. That women didn't, I think that reflects the prevailing attitude set by men. I don't believe in my thread I called anyone stupid. I rarely use that word.

When you compare the situation of men in our society and suggest it is equal to that of women, I think this shows a lack of a broader vision of history and culture.


could it be that men can take things with humor and have the fun that females claim to have
but in reality females dont have the humor that they ask men to have

(i am not saying all men or all women)
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cheesewhiz
Eastern Tennessee, Tennessee USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 3:26 PM CST
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I'm 50 and GEORGOUS rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 3:45 PM CST
alex_192 wrote:
could it be that men can take things with humor and have the fun that females claim to have
but in reality females dont have the humor that they ask men to have

(i am not saying all men or all women)


My point is primarily that given the thousands of years of oppression, and the continued bias agains aging women...it isn't really a matter of having a sense of humor....in the same way that the 'n' word will never be acceptable...some things just are not funny and can't be because not only of historical issues, but those that continue.

Most women have great senses of humor....but do not laugh at things that cut too deep in an area that has been injured over and over again and has not had the opportunity to heal.
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darlynda
new tazewell, Tennessee USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 3:46 PM CST
rasgumby wrote:
I HAVE HAD VERY LITTLE SUCESS IN FINDING SOMEONE OVER 45 WHO IS Beautiful STILL HAVE THEIR TEETH SHAPELY BODY HAIR SO DECIDED TO POLL AND SEE IF ANYONE AGREES WITH ME. NOW REMEMBER I SAID 45 AND Beautiful- NOT DROP DEAD GEORGOUS BUT THAT WOULD ALSO DO THANK YOU . XTC
just curious about something........and i dont mean this in a sarcastic way, but are you perfect? beauty is only skin deep. i hope you find what you are looking for.teddy bear
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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 3:48 PM CST
Well, Im now 54 and more beautiful than I have ever been, in mind body and spirit cheering
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dcj22
Somewhere, Minnesota USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 3:52 PM CST
trish123 wrote:
Well, Im now 54 and more beautiful than I have ever been, in mind body and spirit



That's the spirit Trish and Cheesewhiz!! cheering cheering cheering
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mbcasey
North Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 4:59 PM CST
I love being put down....

makes it easier to get my pants off....
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xoredheadxo
Richwood, West Virginia USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 6:06 PM CST
dcj22 wrote:
Don't be down about your birthday beautiful! Celebrate all you've come through in your life and that you have a really great man that appreciates all of who you are to share the rest of it with you. Tell Mark I'm happy for you both, please.


Thank you Dana!!!!teddy bear
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johndivr
Middle East, Florida USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 6:11 PM CST
ALL THE 45 Y/O TURNED 38 AND RETAINED THEIR BEAUTY, YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT AGE GROUP...
JR
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rasgumby
Moberly, Missouri USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 6:29 PM CST
Once again:
Thank you all!! Seriously!

Not one word of this thread is true or in any way reflects how I feel..

The entire thread was a test of the temperament of the women here and the double standards that they live by and place on us men here.

This entire thread.. title,, ALL questions and the opening paragraph are all an exact copy of another thread asking where have all the handsome 45 yr olds gone.

Ladys.. go read that thread and see the difference in how the men reacted. as far as that goes.. read how the women reacted also.

There were no nasty comments and it was laughed at......
yet.. when a guy ask the women the EXACT same thing.. the women all want to attack and bear claws.

The ONLY point here is............ Men fairly constantly get put down here and belittled, and most of the women think it is funny and cute...

but let the women get the same treatment and mass hysteria.

Lets try playing fair.

and as soon after posted:I truly applaud the women that didn't just automatically jump on the attack wagon!
But there are many with double standards and full of you know what.
such as the thread of all of the fat old men..... you can bet your ass that if a guy puts up a thread of fat old women.... most women would go nuts!

At least I am honest and am Myself..
We men dont like attacks any more than the women do!
We just handle it better in most cases.
so honestly.. how can some attack so nasty here and then come back later and try to look like Angels? When In a lot of cases you are the same ones being nasty to men in other threads.
or in other words- you can dish it out but cant take it back.
multiple personalities? lack of meds? or whatever.
Your comments are not needed here.. just stop and think.

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rasgumby
Moberly, Missouri USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 6:30 PM CST
darlynda wrote:
just curious about something........and i dont mean this in a sarcastic way, but are you perfect? beauty is only skin deep. i hope you find what you are looking for.


Go back and read the entire thread so you know the entire story.
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JuleeBeth
Sun Prairie, Wisconsin USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 6:30 PM CST
What's wrong with 40?? mumbling
I agree, the choices are insulting. scold









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rasgumby
Moberly, Missouri USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 6:32 PM CST
alex_192 wrote:
could it be that men can take things with humor and have the fun that females claim to have
but in reality females dont have the humor that they ask men to have

(i am not saying all men or all women)


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Exactly!
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rasgumby
Moberly, Missouri USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 6:34 PM CST
JuleeBeth wrote:
What's wrong with 40??
I agree, the choices are insulting.


Another that wont read past the first post?
read the rest.

Is it ok for the women to continue insulting men in the EXACT same manner?

This is a copy of another thread where the same exact questions are ask of the men!
but it happens a lot in other threads as well.
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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 6:36 PM CST
martyg wrote:
You fooled us all Alex



alabamabebe wrote:
Hmmmm...

Nah, this one's at least literate. I do see the resemblance though.



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JuleeBeth
Sun Prairie, Wisconsin USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 6:38 PM CST
I read the posts and the entire thread. I'm just putting my 2 pennies worth in. Geez, and you are wondering about the temperment of the women here?! Can't take a joke?? sticking out tongue




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rasgumby
Moberly, Missouri USA
Posted: Jun 25, 2008, 6:45 PM CST
JuleeBeth wrote:
I read the posts and the entire thread. I'm just putting my 2 pennies worth in. Geez, and you are wondering about the temperment of the women here?! Can't take a joke??


You are so sweet to consider the 40 women, since you are not yet 40sticking out tongue
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