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Obama for President....tertius decimus.....Liberty!!!!!!

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Skybow
apple valley, California USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:19 AM CST
Now where is that Clown Prince Indy when we need him. Probably off writing more material for his Vegas act!help help help
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WhatUwish4
Jacksonville, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:20 AM CST
And Dude, TTom has it perfectly right. This isn't YOUR country it's ours. And while you know in your heart you can always count on us to come and help you in times of need, we are first and foremost Americans.
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Skybow
apple valley, California USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:21 AM CST
And RW just to banter with Indy, two guys on opposite sides who play well together, gives me warm fuzzy feelings.head banger head banger head banger
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HJFinAZ
Sun (Sin) CIty, Arizona USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:22 AM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
Good for you! Everyone is not like you.


AND, (thank God) everyone is not like you..lips
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HJFinAZ
Sun (Sin) CIty, Arizona USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:24 AM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
From my research I believe it will take them years.


making mental note to refer very special Research Specialist to Office of Government Affairs..professor
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WhatUwish4
Jacksonville, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:24 AM CST
Skybow wrote:
And RW just to banter with Indy, two guys on opposite sides who play well together, gives me warm fuzzy feelings.


Yes, it would be nice to have everyone here.
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HJFinAZ
Sun (Sin) CIty, Arizona USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:28 AM CST
sigh Their always has to be one to stir the pot..devil


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massticles
Coeur d'Alene, Idaho USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:28 AM CST
Ah, the joys of being an American. What a wonderful thing it is that we can argue about both our internal and global affairs, that we can attack, abuse, and defame those in power, and that we are protected by the first amendment to do so.

So here's my two cents. All politicians are crap. Even Obama. Hopefully the nostalgia of having a black man run for president will wear off before the elections actually take place.

Hopefully we do stop trying to police the world and focus on fixing our own country.

Hopefully we realize that spending money, especially in the amounts that both candidates speak of, will not boost the economy, but further our debt.

But this is what I hope for most of all. Hopefully they challenge the Second Amendment, because I think its about time we had another civil war.
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opalbeauty
Worcester County USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:29 AM CST
Skybow wrote:
I know you don't want him and I sure don't want him but we are not the ones in office are we? We are much more able to be idealists then our politicians are. One of the things I like about Obama is that I don't think he would accept Rove but I know he has some very good spin doctors of his own too. If he can listen to them and reject the dirty tricks then he just might be someone worth voting for.

I watch I wait I hope.


In my opinion, it takes people with little conscience to do what Rove, Bush, Cheney and Co. have done. They played psychological warfare on America. Atleast Bush's rating suggest that people are not happy about status que, no matter what these few people on this forum who still deny he has done any wrong think.
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:30 AM CST
HAPPY 4th OF JULY,AMERICA!!Happy Birthday! balloons for you cheering cheering
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HJFinAZ
Sun (Sin) CIty, Arizona USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:30 AM CST
massticles wrote:
But this is what I hope for most of all. Hopefully they challenge the Second Amendment, because I think its about time we had another civil war.


"I", think you could be right..
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:31 AM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
From my research I believe it will take them years.


What you are saying is flying in the face of every intelligence service that has done investigation into Iran nuclear programs. I personally have seen photos of Iran's nuclear furnance. Nuclear furnace are used for two things only. One is to make nuclear fuel rods (which Russia will give them plenty of) and nuclear cores for weapons.

By this time next summer....Iran's chances of having nucs are likely over 90% in my odds making. I picked Big Brown to win the all three by the way.

And if you are wrong.....and those Isreali cities go up in a terror nuc attack.......you got WWIII. Isreal will not look around and ask...who did this? Our response to 9/11.....Isreal will simply target...Tehran, Moscow, Damscus, anyone and everyone that they think is associated with the attack. Understand?
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HJFinAZ
Sun (Sin) CIty, Arizona USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:32 AM CST
Conrad73 wrote:
HAPPY 4th OF JULY,AMERICA!!


"Independence" or government dependence?confused


frustrated
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:32 AM CST
WhatUwish4 wrote:
And Dude, TTom has it perfectly right. This isn't YOUR country it's ours. And while you know in your heart you can always count on us to come and help you in times of need, we are first and foremost Americans.


It sure is your country but still I beleive Obama is the one who is able to bring your country back to gether after warmongers and criminals in the white House destroyed the best of it!

I dont care at all if you are agree a bout I have the right to talk or not Wish4!

Really I dont give a damn about your oponion that way, with all respect laugh

you are a kind of feroigner your self Wish4............an illegal immigrant some how and actually indians should be cocidered the real real americans any way.right? wink

America has a great amount of influence on any thinggoes on any where on earth.........because of the same fact we all ar involved in this presidential election of yours some how.......Live with it or hope for a gvernment where no decicions will effect any other countries every day life!

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Skybow
apple valley, California USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:38 AM CST
ttom500 wrote:
What you are saying is flying in the face of every intelligence service that has done investigation into Iran nuclear programs. I personally have seen photos of Iran's nuclear furnance. Nuclear furnace are used for two things only. One is to make nuclear fuel rods (which Russia will give them plenty of) and nuclear cores for weapons.

By this time next summer....Iran's chances of having nucs are likely over 90% in my odds making. I picked Big Brown to win the all three by the way.

And if you are wrong.....and those Isreali cities go up in a terror nuc attack.......you got WWIII. Isreal will not look around and ask...who did this? Our response to 9/11.....Isreal will simply target...Tehran, Moscow, Damscus, anyone and everyone that they think is associated with the attack. Understand?


My research ability is total crap compared to yours Tom and If I do sit at your feet I'm pretty sure some of the stuff I would hear would make me a security risk. Might have to Kill me, but this is what I've been afraid of in the wheels within the wheels of the middle east policy's especially of Iran.

There will be Wars and rumors of Wars, I can see it happening and it scares me to the point of distraction. I believe it is vital that we find solutions or else we'll blow up our world. What global warming will matter then?
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WhatUwish4
Jacksonville, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:40 AM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
It sure is your country but still I beleive Obama is the one who is able to bring your country back to gether after warmongers and criminals in the white House destroyed the best of it!

I dont care at all if you are agree a bout I have the right to talk or not Wish4!

Really I dont give a damn about your oponion that way, with all respect

you are a kind of feroigner your self Wish4............an illegal immigrant some how and actually indians should be cocidered the real real americans any way.right?

America has a great amount of influence on any thinggoes on any where on earth.........because of the same fact we all ar involved in this presidential election of yours some how.......Live with it or hope for a gvernment where no decicions will effect any other countries every day life!


Hey Dude....I was not jumping down your throat, but you seem to e a little testy.

Let me ask you something. If you don't give a damn about my opinion or any one who doesn't agree with you, then what are you doing on this site?

Just trying to poison everyone to YOUR way of thinking?
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Skybow
apple valley, California USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:42 AM CST
WhatUwish4 wrote:
Hey Dude....I was not jumping down your throat, but you seem to e a little testy.

Let me ask you something. If you don't give a damn about my opinion or any one who doesn't agree with you, then what are you doing on this site?

Just trying to poison everyone to YOUR way of thinking?


Hey Wish anyone can Try to poison you but you have to pick it up and take it for it to work.professor
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:44 AM CST
massticles wrote:
Ah, the joys of being an American. What a wonderful thing it is that we can argue about both our internal and global affairs, that we can attack, abuse, and defame those in power, and that we are protected by the first amendment to do so.

So here's my two cents. All politicians are crap. Even Obama. Hopefully the nostalgia of having a black man run for president will wear off before the elections actually take place.

Hopefully we do stop trying to police the world and focus on fixing our own country.

Hopefully we realize that spending money, especially in the amounts that both candidates speak of, will not boost the economy, but further our debt.

But this is what I hope for most of all. Hopefully they challenge the Second Amendment, because I think its about time we had another civil war.


Hopefully cooler heads will prevail, Masticles.

But look what is happening right now in our Embassy in Zimbowey. We cannot stop people coming to us for asylum...they is thier individual decision to make. So? We are always put into the position of defending our freedoms, liberties and positions on human rights. When events like this occur. They did not turn to any other country, than the US for aid to their situation. Why?

Because they knew what we stand for. Knew that if there was one country in the world that could and would aid them in this situation....it was the US. In a way it is an honor that they would think of us in such a manner and seek asylum from us. That is the legacy our forefathers have left us.

We just need to be strong enough to stand up to it. If that means policing the world....then we police the world some. It needs a little dusting and some light of democracy shown into some dark places.

We ain't getting out these situations by backing down on them. Rather if we stand together as Americans....more will make it through them. jmo
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WhatUwish4
Jacksonville, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:47 AM CST
I know. I'm not worried about it. I just sometimes wonder where Dude is coming from.

And dude, you're right, we are all "foreigners" here. However, together we are ONE nation founded on certain principles which have helped to make us strong. You really have NOOOOO right to sit on this thread and pontificate about how the people of Denmark think we should do things if you are not at least willing to consider our points of view. I understand that what we do effects the world, that's why everyone comes to us in times of trouble. And that's why we are always there. So you might want to think about all this hate you're stirring up - because DIVIDED WE FALL -- and if we fall, there's not going to be anyone to bail your sorry ass out when you need us
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WhatUwish4
Jacksonville, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 3, 2008, 11:48 AM CST
Skybow wrote:
Hey Wish anyone can Try to poison you but you have to pick it up and take it for it to work.


Oops... Half of the above post was to you, Ms Sky
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