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Barnagie
Warsaw, Mazowieckie Poland
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 7:31 AM CST
Yesterday I have collision with motorbike. It was my fault - I am ashamed especially I always make way for bikers.
Nobody was hurt - thanks God!
It was traffic jam and I wanted to back beacuse I forgot something and I decided turn left and when I was on driveway to somebody house I heard boom.
When I got off I find laying biker. It was terrible beacuse I was affraid that he could be hurt.
So be careful folks!

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sxc666
Central Coast, New South Wales Australia
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 7:33 AM CST
Yep I lost a Boyfriend in a motorbike accident he was only 28. Beautiful person total tragedy. So yes all you riders out there be careful.

Steven's bike hit a gutter and sent him hurling through the air straight into a brick wall.sad flower
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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 7:39 AM CST
Think once, think twice - think BIKE.......

it was a gvmt TV ad slogan here for ages - I have a little Honda 90 and youd be surprised at how much concentration it takes to make sure other drivers actually notice you.

One time, I had actually eyeballed an oncoming driver, it was a notoriously tricky junction mind you and very luckily I had slowed to about 15mph but the wazzoc still pulled out and I went right into the side of him - when I asked what the heck he had been thinking - his reply was that his wife (passenger) had said it was clear to go D'oh! D'oh!
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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 7:40 AM CST
sxc666 wrote:
Yep I lost a Boyfriend in a motorbike accident he was only 28. Beautiful person total tragedy. So yes all you riders out there be careful.

Steven's bike hit a gutter and sent him hurling through the air straight into a brick wall.


oh thats sad Tina........... hug
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Barnagie
Warsaw, Mazowieckie Poland
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 7:42 AM CST
I feel sorry for what happend with your boyfriend.
Riding on motobikes is very dangerous beacuse of road condition and car drivers.
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ooby_dooby
Ashland, Virginia USA
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 7:48 AM CST
That's why they call them "Accidents"

Accidents happen when 2 or more unforeseen situations occur at the same time.
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lola36
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 8:14 AM CST
Barnagie wrote:
Yesterday I have collision with motorbike. It was my fault - I am ashamed especially I always make way for bikers.
Nobody was hurt - thanks God!
It was traffic jam and I wanted to back beacuse I forgot something and I decided turn left and when I was on driveway to somebody house I heard boom.
When I got off I find laying biker. It was terrible beacuse I was affraid that he could be hurt.
So be careful folks!



And you be more careful....comfort
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The_Kansan
Claxton (Powell) , Tennessee USA
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 8:14 AM CST
ooby_dooby wrote:
That's why they call them "Accidents"

Accidents happen when 2 or more unforeseen situations occur at the same time.


Actually, I think the DOT's definition of "accident" is when two objects try to occupy the same place at the same time.

It amazes and frightens me at the number of people who drive while otherwise occupied - on a cell phone, reading a newspaper, applying make-up, etc... Sometimes while in heavy traffic!

Entirely too many folks get into their personal vehicles and then never really notice anything outside of their personal little steel and plastic encapsulated personal space. It's like they are simply not cognitive of the fact that they are moving through space and time in a potentially deadly motorized missle.

As a professional driver, I witness things on a daily basis that scare the hell out of me and make me wonder how some people have lasted as long as they have. I even had a guy tell me once "Man, I'm glad you were able to stop - I didn't even see you!" I was pulling an over sized load at the time with flashing yellow lights, signs and headlights on, literally the biggest vehicle on the road! How could he not see me?

And yet, when asked, about 85% claim to be an "above average driver." Not from what I've seen!

My entire career I've been told "Think Safety." Bullcrap! Don't think safety, practice safety!

Okay, I'll hop off my soapbox now and let someone else have a go.

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darlynda
new tazewell, Tennessee USA
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 8:19 AM CST
almost lost my dad 3 years ago due to a woman talking on her cell and running a light............so everyone please pullover to talk on the phonescold
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branded
poplar bluff, Missouri USA
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 8:25 AM CST
The_Kansan wrote:
Actually, I think the DOT's definition of "accident" is when two objects try to occupy the same place at the same time.

It amazes and frightens me at the number of people who drive while otherwise occupied - on a cell phone, reading a newspaper, applying make-up, etc... Sometimes while in heavy traffic!

Entirely too many folks get into their personal vehicles and then never really notice anything outside of their personal little steel and plastic encapsulated personal space. It's like they are simply not cognitive of the fact that they are moving through space and time in a potentially deadly motorized missle.

As a professional driver, I witness things on a daily basis that scare the hell out of me and make me wonder how some people have lasted as long as they have. I even had a guy tell me once "Man, I'm glad you were able to stop - I didn't even see you!" I was pulling an over sized load at the time with flashing yellow lights, signs and headlights on, literally the biggest vehicle on the road! How could he not see me?

And yet, when asked, about 85% claim to be an "above average driver." Not from what I've seen!

My entire career I've been told "Think Safety." Bullcrap! Don't think safety, practice safety!

Okay, I'll hop off my soapbox now and let someone else have a go.



I agreehandshake But Kansan , don't you find it a little funny though , that no one really thinks of this saftey till they or someone they know is involved in an incident like this. confused If people would use a little common sense on the issue , alot of accidents could be greatly avoided.


Sometimes , if people would stop to think , instead of cars being other motorist out on the road , and think of them as their family , or someone elses' family, it might make a differance. That's the way I see it everyday . I totally agree , we see alot out there that could scare the hell out of anyone.
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ooby_dooby
Ashland, Virginia USA
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 8:52 AM CST
Motorcycles have an additional problem to deal with which cars and trucks don't, namely they can be invisible to the human brain. Surveys of accidents involving cars and motorcycles have shone that in a surprising number of cases the automobile driver never saw the bike even when looking straight at it because the brain was looking to see if a car was present.
Car is present = not safe to proceed
Car is not present = safe to proceed

The brain doesn't see a car therefore it tells the driver it's safe to proceed because the brain was only looking for a car and no car was present, it wasn't looking for a bike and if a bike was present the brain was blind to it. Bear in mind vision occurs in the brain, not in the eye.

This sounds crazy but it actually happened to me on my way to work one morning on my then 6 day old Suzuki. An 18 YO guy coming out of a sideroad looked right at me, we made eye contact and he stepped on the gas and shot right in front of me. I layed the bike over hard to the left and wound up eating gravel on the opposing shoulder of the road. The first thing out of his mouth, "man I didn't even see you."
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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 9:14 AM CST
Barnagie wrote:
Yesterday I have collision with motorbike. It was my fault - I am ashamed especially I always make way for bikers.
Nobody was hurt - thanks God!
It was traffic jam and I wanted to back beacuse I forgot something and I decided turn left and when I was on driveway to somebody house I heard boom.
When I got off I find laying biker. It was terrible beacuse I was affraid that he could be hurt.
So be careful folks!


Aaww what a fright! comfort
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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 9:14 AM CST
sxc666 wrote:
Yep I lost a Boyfriend in a motorbike accident he was only 28. Beautiful person total tragedy. So yes all you riders out there be careful.

Steven's bike hit a gutter and sent him hurling through the air straight into a brick wall.


AAwww comfort

(at least you have good 'rabbit' memories) uncertain

hug
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sxc666
Central Coast, New South Wales Australia
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 9:36 AM CST
Claayer wrote:
AAwww

(at least you have good 'rabbit' memories)
yeeee haaa yes I know very happy devil
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The_Kansan
Claxton (Powell) , Tennessee USA
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 10:01 AM CST
ooby_dooby wrote:
Motorcycles have an additional problem to deal with which cars and trucks don't, namely they can be invisible to the human brain. Surveys of accidents involving cars and motorcycles have shone that in a surprising number of cases the automobile driver never saw the bike even when looking straight at it because the brain was looking to see if a car was present.
Car is present = not safe to proceed
Car is not present = safe to proceed

The brain doesn't see a car therefore it tells the driver it's safe to proceed because the brain was only looking for a car and no car was present, it wasn't looking for a bike and if a bike was present the brain was blind to it. Bear in mind vision occurs in the brain, not in the eye.

This sounds crazy but it actually happened to me on my way to work one morning on my then 6 day old Suzuki. An 18 YO guy coming out of a sideroad looked right at me, we made eye contact and he stepped on the gas and shot right in front of me. I layed the bike over hard to the left and wound up eating gravel on the opposing shoulder of the road. The first thing out of his mouth, "man I didn't even see you."


I think you more or less made my point. thumbs up

People get into their cars, start them up and then put their brains on auto-pilot for the drive while they think about something else; "Will I get off in time to make it to the bank? Wonder if the new guy at the Deli is single? Please God, let me make this deal with company XYZ go through today!", etc... And I'm thinking "Okay, I wonder if this dude in the blue Honda is gonna' cut me off and if he does what can I do to avoid smearing his paint job all over my grill? Damn, I'd better keep an eye on that gal in the green Taurus - the way she's gesturing at whoever is on the other end of that cell phone, she's gonna' lose it if she hits a pothole!, etc...

I'm not saying that I never become distracted while I'm driving because I do - everyone does - it's just that too damn many folks seem to be distracted all the time while they're driving.

Anybody of hear of the Smith Driving System? I've believed in it and practiced (as well as taught) it for years. It involves what's known a "space cushion driving" and the 5 key points are:

1. Aim high in steering.
(Look 10 - 12 seconds - that is the distance your vehicle will travel in 10 - 12 seconds - ahead of you. Not just a car length or two down down the road.)

2. Get the big picture.
(Be aware of what's going on, not just in front of you, but also at the sides and rear of your vehicle.)

3. Keep your eyes moving.
(Don't focus on any one thing to the exclusion of everything else - 2-3 seconds max, then look somewhere else, another 2-3 seconds max then change your field of view again.)

4. Leave yourself an out.
(Make sure that you have somewhere to go to avoid an impending collision or other obstacle on the road. Right? Left? - If you've left a safe following distance from the vehicle in front of you, you can sometimes even avoid being being rear-ended by simply moving forward.)

5. Make sure they see you.
(I drive with my lights on all the time. Sometimes I leave my canoe on top of the Ramcharger for weeks - even though I have no intention of actually going canoeing. Do something, anything to stand out so that people actually take note of you and your vehicle. Sometimes while driving in the truck, I'll notice traffic coming up behind me and simply tap my brake lights a few times - Just to get their attention.)

The Smith Driving System is a wonderful way to get from today to tomorrow and beyond safely. You don't have to drive a truck to practice it, it doesn't cost you anything (although it might save you untold fortunes) and it's simple and easy to put into use.

Okay, once again stepping off the soap-box. laugh
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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 10:05 AM CST
The_Kansan wrote:
I think you more or less made my point.

People get into their cars, start them up and then put their brains on auto-pilot for the drive while they think about something else; "Will I get off in time to make it to the bank? Wonder if the new guy at the Deli is single? Please God, let me make this deal with company XYZ go through today!", etc... And I'm thinking "Okay, I wonder if this dude in the blue Honda is gonna' cut me off and if he does what can I do to avoid smearing his paint job all over my grill? Damn, I'd better keep an eye on that gal in the green Taurus - the way she's gesturing at whoever is on the other end of that cell phone, she's gonna' lose it if she hits a pothole!, etc...

I'm not saying that I never become distracted while I'm driving because I do - everyone does - it's just that too damn many folks seem to be distracted all the time while they're driving.

Anybody of hear of the Smith Driving System? I've believed in it and practiced (as well as taught) it for years. It involves what's known a "space cushion driving" and the 5 key points are:

1. Aim high in steering.
(Look 10 - 12 seconds - that is the distance your vehicle will travel in 10 - 12 seconds - ahead of you. Not just a car length or two down down the road.)

2. Get the big picture.
(Be aware of what's going on, not just in front of you, but also at the sides and rear of your vehicle.)

3. Keep your eyes moving.
(Don't focus on any one thing to the exclusion of everything else - 2-3 seconds max, then look somewhere else, another 2-3 seconds max then change your field of view again.)

4. Leave yourself an out.
(Make sure that you have somewhere to go to avoid an impending collision or other obstacle on the road. Right? Left? - If you've left a safe following distance from the vehicle in front of you, you can sometimes even avoid being being rear-ended by simply moving forward.)

5. Make sure they see you.
(I drive with my lights on all the time. Sometimes I leave my canoe on top of the Ramcharger for weeks - even though I have no intention of actually going canoeing. Do something, anything to stand out so that people actually take note of you and your vehicle. Sometimes while driving in the truck, I'll notice traffic coming up behind me and simply tap my brake lights a few times - Just to get their attention.)

The Smith Driving System is a wonderful way to get from today to tomorrow and beyond safely. You don't have to drive a truck to practice it, it doesn't cost you anything (although it might save you untold fortunes) and it's simple and easy to put into use.

Okay, once again stepping off the soap-box.



Yep thumbs up

be seen and be safe!!!

Bikers leave yr headlight on is my advice conversing
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sxc666
Central Coast, New South Wales Australia
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 10:07 AM CST
trish123 wrote:
Yep

be seen and be safe!!!

Bikers leave yr headlight on is my advice
It is actually a legal requirment now in Australia that motor bike rider do that.applause
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rwantin
Costa Mesa, California USA
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 10:07 AM CST
The_Kansan wrote:
I think you more or less made my point.

People get into their cars, start them up and then put their brains on auto-pilot for the drive while they think about something else; "Will I get off in time to make it to the bank? Wonder if the new guy at the Deli is single? Please God, let me make this deal with company XYZ go through today!", etc... And I'm thinking "Okay, I wonder if this dude in the blue Honda is gonna' cut me off and if he does what can I do to avoid smearing his paint job all over my grill? Damn, I'd better keep an eye on that gal in the green Taurus - the way she's gesturing at whoever is on the other end of that cell phone, she's gonna' lose it if she hits a pothole!, etc...

I'm not saying that I never become distracted while I'm driving because I do - everyone does - it's just that too damn many folks seem to be distracted all the time while they're driving.

Anybody of hear of the Smith Driving System? I've believed in it and practiced (as well as taught) it for years. It involves what's known a "space cushion driving" and the 5 key points are:

1. Aim high in steering.
(Look 10 - 12 seconds - that is the distance your vehicle will travel in 10 - 12 seconds - ahead of you. Not just a car length or two down down the road.)

2. Get the big picture.
(Be aware of what's going on, not just in front of you, but also at the sides and rear of your vehicle.)

3. Keep your eyes moving.
(Don't focus on any one thing to the exclusion of everything else - 2-3 seconds max, then look somewhere else, another 2-3 seconds max then change your field of view again.)

4. Leave yourself an out.
(Make sure that you have somewhere to go to avoid an impending collision or other obstacle on the road. Right? Left? - If you've left a safe following distance from the vehicle in front of you, you can sometimes even avoid being being rear-ended by simply moving forward.)

5. Make sure they see you.
(I drive with my lights on all the time. Sometimes I leave my canoe on top of the Ramcharger for weeks - even though I have no intention of actually going canoeing. Do something, anything to stand out so that people actually take note of you and your vehicle. Sometimes while driving in the truck, I'll notice traffic coming up behind me and simply tap my brake lights a few times - Just to get their attention.)

The Smith Driving System is a wonderful way to get from today to tomorrow and beyond safely. You don't have to drive a truck to practice it, it doesn't cost you anything (although it might save you untold fortunes) and it's simple and easy to put into use.

Okay, once again stepping off the soap-box.


That's great stuff Don. tip hat I'd add that on bright sunny days, I typically run high beams.

I rode into the office today. My oversimplistic rule (of some 25 years now) is ride as though you are invisible.
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The_Kansan
Claxton (Powell) , Tennessee USA
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 10:15 AM CST
rwantin wrote:
That's great stuff Don. I'd add that on bright sunny days, I typically run high beams.

I rode into the office today. My oversimplistic rule (of some 25 years now) is ride as though you are invisible.


Excellent approach, Robert! 2 thumbs up

Wish more folks would drive that way (instead of everyone else being invisible to them).

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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Jun 30, 2008, 10:20 AM CST
Great post Kansan! thumbs up hug

Oh Hey Robert... do the USA bikes come with lights that turn on when ignition does?

they do here.
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