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Thanx Trish that is a great poem and soooooooo true...once you stop caring what others think...It get a lot easier...sometimes though the battle is hard when you have people around you consantly reminding you that you should be sooooooo much more than you are...those people have no care for the person you are....just the one they expect you to be!!!!!!!!!

Seroxat was the second one I was put onto when I was just 16 and only when I was 19 and in college was researching it for an article and after reading all the bad press about it I freaked out....alot of what I was feeling and had done to myself made sense after that...then I changed to Effexor and now I am med free but still go to counselling every week..........lifes a bitch at times but when your down the only way is up!

Helloo Mini

Just out of curiosity Kate, did they offer you counselling when you were 16 or did they do the "here, take these and everything will be solved" ?

Im a bit confused really at the governments role in all of this - we have an excellent health care system (imo) and the interests of society lie in having productive members so whats the purpose of giving people drugs which numb feelings and render them virtually incapable of meaningful interactions when its patently obvious that talking stuff through is so much more effective in the majority of cases - to my mind its a massive great learning curve and sometimes, some of us need a bit of extra support, very simple really - but Im very suspicious of all this legal drug peddling

Yadda yadda...

Bottom line. Drugs are never the answer. I'm sorry, but the pharma companies aren't interested in your happiness, only their huge wallets...and they conceal any study that doesn't conform with their skewed performance reports on their anti-depressants.

i had a very bad nervouse breakdown about 4 years ago, i was in the process of overcoming some very harsh demons, thought i was doing good dealing with the withdrawl, until somebody said something to me to diminish my efforts...........and i snapped. i ended up punching out the windows of my truck breaking my hand punching something else, it was very bad. i never ever want to see myself loose control like that again, it was so bad and so violent i even scared myself. thats my confession, i've been walking around with that for the past four years and it feels great to get it off my chest, thank you for creating the forum to allow me that releif.

Its a pretty disgusting state of affairs insnt it

found myself on the ground more than once........but jumped up and dusted myself off and off again I go......

found myself on the ground more than once........but jumped up and dusted myself off and off again I go......

Aaawww well I'm really glad it helped you to talk about it.. We talk abut ANTHING on here.. haha

it's a handy ole thing this internet.

Thats it.. sometimes we get a knock down don't we.. though I think usually we learn from it and come back stronger.

I went through a particularly hard time in my life started 10 years ago this week, I was thinking about it the other day, rembering the lessons of life I learned, people I met, ahd how no matter how bad it does get, when you make it through it, you are so much stronger a person for it. and ye I did see a shrink, and will admit it, though meds. were not the answer for me.

This is why I'm not making $60,000 a quarter. I dropped out of pharmacy school when I found out how much profit they make with no real solution to people's problems...

Adam Smith railed at pharmaceutical companies in 1785 in the "Wealth of Nations". At that time, they were mostly Snake-oil Salesmen. Not much has changed, except the snake-oil is now endorsed by the FDA...

Way tooooooooooo strong the next time around.........

Talking things through can bring such insight cant it - just getting it out and letting it all go too - Im enjoying this thread very much as well

Thanks again Clair

There used to be such a stigma attached to uneasiness of the mind but I think this is possibly the result of reactions to fear. The tales of the early assylums here in England are pretty horrific and involve people being chained up for their entire lives. Drugs did make an inroad but before this, a french guy called Pinel around 1890 proposed that some of these conditions could actually be treated sucessfully and brought a modicum of morality into the treatment and lives of many sufferers. His ideas forged a path through treating mental patients on a biological constraint basis to actually considering the fact that they had minds and that maybe, just maybe, it was possible to work with these minds.........

heres to Pinel

Haven't had a breakdown, nor been on medication, although I did go to a psychologist for a couple months (thinking I was depressed) back in 1985 I think. He'd asked me if I wanted medication & I told him no. I ended the sessions because I didn't feel they were doing anything "spectacular".

Back in 2002 or 2003 I had to get a psych evaluation done for court (ex was trying to imply that I was mentally ill without stating a specific symtom). Psychiatrist & Psychologist both evaluated me & came up with "nothing wrong with this woman...above average intelligence....and some stress is to be expected with what she's being put through". Ex didn't like the result...lol

I sometimes joke with a new date who's made the comment about "psycho's" that I have certification that I'm not...lol

However, from what I understand, both of my boys have been on suicide watch at least once since they've been living with their dad. Youngest one is on Risperdahl & Mitrazipine. If I had my way they wouldn't be on any meds.....but.....I've been cut out so I have no say.

Geez...looking back at all the garbage I've been through I consider myself extremely lucky that I haven't gone off the deep end & required hospitalization.

Yeahhhh I didn't know that.

It sounds like it!!

I used to have a really good book full of 'recepies' used by the travelling 'Snake Oil' salesmen - gave it away yrs ago to a friend doing pharmacology but what an eye opener that book was - total placebos most of them - nettles to turn the water brown and speil to sell 'remedies' to a gullible and needy public - this is how the pharmaceutial companies began their reign of terror......

Even now, some sorious shit is goin down - I was reading some stuff a few weeks ago about cancer treatments, simple ones too, which have been kept from public awareness - such as, sugar feeds cancers - so if you are having unusual sugar cravings, whatever you do - dont give in to them............ refined foods that they try to sell us are full of sugars - its a bloody sellers paradise..........