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I thnk what many feel is that Obama is only TALKING change and will deliver nothing but higher tazes. He campaigned on a particulr platform to win the nomination for Hillary. Now that he has, he has already changed his positions to help get the more moderate liberals. No doubt is he actually became president he will chage his postions ever further.

So vote democrat if you must, but don't expect all these changes he promised.

Barak Obama's Unrealisitc Goals of Change:

Energy:

"I would have the United States be Energy Independent." That is a said goal. But how do we get there if....no offshore drilling, no low emmission coal burning electrical plants or gasification plant, no
ethanol programs, no investment in energy other than windmills? and
solar cells? and in research to develop technology.

For close to 30 years we have had this 'research of energy Technologies' going on. The Florida solar center, a research facility in Melbourne, FL is at least 20 years old. Other such reseach has been going in energy for longer than that.

Yet there is never the link between the research and the 'application'.
The research tells you what the potential is for a given energy system.
But it is only in the application....usually 1000s of units being made, sold and used.....do you derive a energy saving or improved energy
situation.

Barak's approach to study the problem for more solutions really just means this. That during his Presidency the energy options you have today, will be the ones that you have then. The energy saving light bulb is a great example to what I say. They did the research, then patented it, then brought into production, then you have large numbers of users.....and less energy being used. It the same path for any new energy technology that we can research and develop at this point. Unless you are willing to accept those that have been researched and developed in the past 20 years. Barak's goal og energy independence unless he accepts these solutions is unreachable.

Barak position on Iraq:

"I would end this war in 16 months." That is military goal. Given that order, DoD and the Joint Chiefs will do everyting in thier power to make it happen. But now Barak is saying "I will visit Iraq and make a
reassessment."

For you that do remember the Vet Nam war, the number of reassessments that LBJ did on the war was about weekly. When a
Comander in Chief says to me...'I am going to reassess'.....I have to stop and think.....he does not have a handle on this.

Reassessments are a key in micro managing a war by the way. LBJs
reassessments had pilots flying missions to bomb a specific maps grip in either the south or north....that was either forest or road junction with nothing there. Washington had gotten to micro managing the war so completely, that the missions were being made up in the Pentagon, then being approved in the White House, then being communciated to units commands in Vet Nam and the mission being done.

You say that is what a Commander in Chief should do. No. His role is to provide the strategic leadership to winning the war. Not saying pull the trigger here and now. Drop the bomb on a grid coordinate without any hostile forces. But that is the illusion that many Democratics (including Barak) have of being Commander in Chief.
That is why they think that one can tie GWB directly to any and every criminal act of Iraq.

But the real strategic question to ask is will this military end of the Iraq war will get us any closer to winning the GWOT?

end of part one

"Political Correctness"

A doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

They'll be coming to get you now...

Wouldn't that bolster the Selfesteem they haven't got!!!!!!!!
One of the reasons they want to be in Power so bad,they can TASTE!!

part two

Much more Islamic terrorism orginates in the Middle East historically than has orignated in the mountians of Afghanistan. The populace center of the Islamic world is the Persian Gulf Region and the Middle
East. To withdraw from Iraq, takes our combat forces from that region
to where? There Barak answer's is...some come home and some to
Afghanistan.

The reason today Isreal having preliminary talks with Hamas...both groups of Hamas and Hezbollah, and Syria....is that these groups have had a lot of manpower go to Iraq....either be killed or arrested...and they are weaker. Hence the talks. You let these organizations rebuild their manpower with a known withdrawl date from Iraq. You might as well add some more years to the GWOT. Now this has changed. The influx of foreign fighters into Iraq has slowed. With those 69,000 detaineee sitting in Iraqi jails....many of them foreign fighters....
we have a very big bargain chip. To get thier people back they have
to negotiate with Isreal. We leave, Iraq begins its own release program. No need to negotiate with Isreal. Or us.

So Iraq, I suggest has brought them to the table with Isreal. They need to stay at the table with Isreal, to make a Palestine homeland,
to a full ceasefire/peace agreements, to end thier terrorism in the region. To get a release of these 69,000. Just my opinion, but leaving Iraq, will also lets them leave the table of negotiations with Isreal in the future.

Leaving Iraq emboldens Irans leaders and radical clerics around the Globe. President A., bin Laden and others will doing song fests 'shouting victory over the Americans' with Barak's 16 month withdrawal from Iraq. They will see a opporuntity to come into the power vacumm made by that withdrawl to 'Talibaning' the country of Iraq. Those foreign figthers that have left Iraq, will be back to break the Democratic government that those 4200 American lives helped place. The very thing that Barak wants to fight.....the expansion of radical Islam............ becomes a real possiblity in Iraq and elsewhere.

So while Barak goal of ending the war in Iraq can be said to be a noble one in saving lives of both American and Iraqi. It makes his
position to fight global terrorism much less achieveable perhaps unattainable, in my opinion.

Where his reassessment of Iraq, might take him. Is anyone's guess at t his point. He said he will not do it until he visits Iraq. McCain we know his commitment to making Iraq work and win. Keeping those 4200 Americans that have lost lives there, from being a vain military
effort.

End of part 2

ANOTHER OBAMA THREAD???

Barak Obama and a National Health Care Program:

"We will have a national health care program for all Americans."

But when asked how do we afford the health care program for 302 m
Americans? The answer becomes, by reducing our military spending in Iraq. Yet, under Barak reassment of the Iraq and the Global war on
terrorism. He is sending a significant force source to Afghanistan.
Dig up a world map. Note the distance to Iraq and to Afghanistan from the US. Consider the logistic cost of trying to supply and maintain that
sigificant force in Afghansitan. Having any real saving to his military plans?

How hard is it supply logitically in Afghanistan for us? Hard and expensive. At one time at the beginning of the Afghan conflict, we could only fly three (3) uavs at any one time over the country. Why?
There was a limit to digital broadband service to the country. Digital braodband is the data link between the UAV and pilot. Without it, the UAV does not fly. It is like that for many other logistical elements in Afghanistan. Unlike Iraq, Afghanistan is really a third world country.
That has seen so much war to its infrastructer, that at time 'stone
age' is a good discription.

What I am saying is this. Reduce the $3b per day in Iraq with a withdrawal and place more troops into Afghanistan, and take
alot of that $3b per day to support them as well.

So now it comes back to Barak other campaign promise of 'no more taxes'. With out raising the taxes, and still with high military spending,
how does one afford a national health care program? By taxing the wealthy and the indutry of the country! Opps.....these parties buy plane tickets and head out Dodge when they see high tax rates being placed on them that they feel are unfair to the society as a whole.

Also it comes back to who he considers American and who should get Federal Goverenment aid and assistance . Do we add the 12m
illegals into the National Health Care program? Do we spend that
$875b to the Global Poverty Act to support the UN Millennium Program? Do we open the door of American Health care to other Americans south of the border?

So does Barak have either the tax base or the military spending reductions for a full national health care program? Obviously one does not get anything for free. His claim to bring American tax rate back to the 'level of Bill Clinton's' and his desire to have a 'National Health Care program for Amerricans'. Very well can be in the term of a statian.....'mutually non exclusive'......meaning incompatible...therefore unachieveable.

"But when asked how do we afford the health care program for 302 m
Americans? The answer becomes, by reducing our military spending in Iraq. Yet, under Barak reassment of the Iraq and the Global war on
terrorism. "

This reasoning is so flawed it's beyond irresponsible.

To start with, any government program usually doubles it's expenditures w/in 5 years. Secondly, the assumption would be that we would never have to send forces to another country. Hence, we would never have another "war" expense.


That's just for starters. If you want the other 98 reasons, you'll have to buy my book.

Barak Obama and a National Health Care Program:


You can tell now for sure that Obama and Hillary are becoming the best of friends.

Don't they realize the continuous Danish Threat?!!!!!!

About like the Hatfields and the McCoys in that old Porky Pig Cartoon.
One with a Club,the other one with a Big Cast Iron Skillet!!!

The stupidity here is just staggering. Really staggering.


I sure as heck people will at least read through some forums on why this would simply kill our health care sytem - then Obama would be dead in the water for such a stupid, irresponsible proposal.

I'm not going to say anything bad about Denmark, just in case the Danish KGB are watching????

Before you came aboard, I threw out the idea of free housing and free food. Everyone thought free healthcare was more important! (My guess.....the medical lobby at work)

The Easter Bunny, too.