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Asking for too much????

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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:08 AM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
Why strive for somethinf unobtainable? Strive to be your best...but to strive for perfection is to strive for failure!!



How many times when we are growing up do we hear the words "if you just try you can do it". Everything we did since childhood has often seemed to us unattainable but when we tried we often found that we could get ther,e or do it, or be something, we didn't think we could.

It's all a state of mind. Some of us limit our thinking and abilities by saying we can't do it, but we never know unless we try.

I'm a great believer in striving for the impossible. At worst we still get further than we thought we could and are often stronger for trying.

The rest is only fear and what have we got to lose?
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:10 AM CST
gingerb wrote:
How many times when we are growing up do we hear the words "if you just try you can do it". Everything we did since childhood has often seemed to us unattainable but when we tried we often found that we could get ther,e or do it, or be something, we didn't think we could.

It's all a state of mind. Some of us limit our thinking and abilities by saying we can't do it, but we never know unless we try.

I'm a great believer in striving for the impossible. At worst we still get further than we thought we could and are often stronger for trying.

The rest is only fear and what have we got to lose?





Some live in a fantasy world....others are more reality based!!handshake
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:12 AM CST
Striving for perfection?? "There is no one perfect, no not one" This from the Holy Book that many of you say to believe in!!

Are you trying to prove the writings wrong???



Being your best is a noble undertaking, but trying for perfection is fruitlesshandshake
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:13 AM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
Some live in a fantasy world....others are more reality based!!


Horses for courses I suppose...........wine handshake peace
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:16 AM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
Striving for perfection?? "There is no one perfect, no not one" This from the Holy Book that many of you say to believe in!!

Are you trying to prove the writings wrong???
Being your best is a noble undertaking, but trying for perfection is fruitless


In this Holy Book does it not say "love one another even as I have loved you"?

Is this not a call to strive for perfection?
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:18 AM CST
striving for love is filled with imperfections. Striving for love is not striving for perfection. It is striving for loveconfused



To use your quote as it applies to this thread i to say we should die for the sins of the one we love...as he supposedly did for those he loved.
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:22 AM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
striving for love is filled with imperfections. Striving for love is not striving for perfection. It is striving for love
To use your quote as it applies to this thread i to say we should die for the sins of the one we love...as he supposedly did for those he loved.


Was that love not perfect?
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:25 AM CST
so we should all die on a cross to be perfect??




I thinks it's just good to say we disagree!!cheers
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:27 AM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
so we should all die on a cross to be perfect??

I thinks it's just good to say we disagree!!


We are not being asked to die on a cross. We are being asked to meet the needs of our partners..............wine
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:29 AM CST
Truly loving somebody is about putting their needs above our fears and perceived inadequacies.........comfort hug handshake
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sxc666
Central Coast, New South Wales Australia
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:30 AM CST
laugh I think I'd want a manual with a man like that. He'd be a robot.uh oh!
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:30 AM CST
gingerb wrote:
Truly loving somebody is about putting their needs above our fears and perceived inadequacies.........



cheering
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:34 AM CST
actually this thread isn't about love...you turned it around. This thread was about being perfect. I still say it try for perfection is to set yourself up to fail. Strive to be the best you can be...and if you attain that, you are successful. Perfect or not
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:38 AM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
actually this thread isn't about love...you turned it around. This thread was about being perfect. I still say it try for perfection is to set yourself up to fail. Strive to be the best you can be...and if you attain that, you are successful. Perfect or not


cheers
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:40 AM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
cheering


Good Lord!!!!!.....We agree on something!!!!!!!!!yay
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 9:58 AM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
I will catch hell for this...but then this is me.

I think women, in general, have a high opinion of themselves. I believe that in large, they have more of an ego problem than men. So I can see where they talk about "perfection". Men see themselves more realistically, in general, and know they have limits.

So I can see where women would expect perfection, because many see it when they look in the mirror. Thus they think "I am worth it" when expecting perfection from men!JMO, of course


I'm sorry, but to an extent I have to disagree. Women have been expected to BE perfect in many ways by guys, esp those raised by the Dad works Mom makes a perfect home era. Even to the extent of having to take all the critical picking apart of most, if not everything, she has done as not being good enough, not perfect enough. Then when she does manage to get something right, he does not accknowlege what she has done b/c it is his "right" to expect her to be and do everything to perfect standards.

Those raised in in that era saw the women get cut down again and again. Dry her tears and try again b/c life revolved around the bread winner and his expectations. Many girls I know, deided they deserved better than that, rightfully so.
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 10:06 AM CST
No one twist your arms!! You buy make-up...that men make...BUT you buy it, v creating a basis for more manufacture. Supply and demand. I still say that women have a higher ego problem than men.

Do I look fat in this?? You won't hear a man say that

I have to go and powder my nose...you won't hear men say the are going to primp.

I believe that for the most part women are more vain than men...metro-sexuals excluded

Women want to be complimented and stroked. As a whole! Other peoples opinion matter more to them than most men. They even strive for the approval of other women. Men, I think, are not as vain as women are.

Hence this fits into a "perfection" thread. Women frequently see themselves as perfect which is why many say "I am worth it"

Just my opinion, of course
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LordGoose
warsaw Poland
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 10:18 AM CST
let me see , to strive for perfection is to want everything money can buy , but i can certainly tell you that money cant buy love .....the world around us is full of inperfection and failure....so you think you are perfect you have already lost.....god gave him self for mankind for their sins(imperfections) and thus money is the root of all evil ...and those that follow it or who are in search of it are doomed to failure and those who say otherwise are arrogant fools who dont wish to listen.

The world is full of those who have no ears!


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HJFinAZ
Sun (Sin) CIty, Arizona USA
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 10:24 AM CST
Karma3 wrote:
In a brief conversation, a man asked a woman he was pursuing the question......"What kind of man are you looking for?"

She sat quietly for a moment before looking him in the eye and asking
"Do you really want to know?"

Reluctantly, he said, "Yes."

She began to expound... As a woman in this day and age, I am in a position to ask a man what he can do for me that I can't do
for myself. I pay my own bills. I take care of my household without the help of any man. I am in the position to ask, "What can you bring to the table?"

The man looked at her. Clearly he thought that she was referring to money. She quickly corrected his thought and stated, " I am not referring to money. I need something more." I need a man who is striving for perfection in every aspect of life." He sat back in his chair, folded his arms, and asked her to explain.

She said, " I am looking for someone who is striving for perfection mentally because I need conversation and mental stimulation. I don't need a simple-minded man." I am looking for someone who is striving for perfection spiritually because I don't need to be unequally yoked...
believers mixed with unbelievers is a recipe for disaster. I need a man who is striving for perfection financially because I don't need a financial
burden. I am looking for someone who is sensitive enough to understand what I go through as a woman , but strong enough to keep me grounded. I am looking for someone who I can respect. In order to be submissive, I must respect him. I cannot be submissive to a man who isn't taking care of his business. I have no problem being submissive...he just has to be worthy. God made woman to be a helpmate for man. I can't help a man if he can't help himself.

When she finished her spill, she looked at him. He sat there with a puzzled look on his face.

He said, "You're asking a lot."

She replied, " I'm worth a lot."


I notice she never mentioned what she was willing to contribute.. Appears common these days..dunno
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 14, 2008, 10:38 AM CST
good point...HJthumbs up
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