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Abuse and Relationships.

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KHD100
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Jul 15, 2008, 7:12 PM CST
These lyrics seem to hit a bit on the subject... also are you willing to have a relationship you work on?






Love Pain the Whole damn Thing

It’s a little secret your friends won’t tell
Heavens highway sometimes takes you through hell
Love is work and work is hard
there are ghosts inside the dark

CHORUS

And it takes
Love pain the whole damn thing
if you want my heart you get everything
Love pain the whole damn thing
Its a crown of thorns to wear a golden ring
Love pain the whole damn thing
if you want my heart
you get everything
Cinderella walked upon broken glass
sleeping beauty let a whole lifetime pass
Love is blood and sweat and tears
Love means facing all your fears

CHORUS

And you get
Love pain the whole damn thing
if you want my heart you get everything
Love pain the whole damn thing
Its a crown of thorns to wear a golden ring
Love pain the whole damn thing
if you want my heart
if you want my heart
you get everything

BRIDGE

Paradise ain't cheap
Heaven keeps us waiting
So baby wait with me
cause if it's love we're making
I'll take it all
Can you take it all
And can you take it all yeah

CHORUS

Yeah And you get
Love pain the whole damn thing
If you want my heart you get everything
Love pain the whole damn thing
Its a crown of thorns to wear a golden ring
Love pain the whole damn thing
If you want my heart
If you want my heart
If you want my heart
You get everything
You get everything yeah
You get love, you get pain
You get love, can you take the pain baby

You gotta give something, If you wanna get something back
You gotta give a little something, If you wanna get something back
You get everything
You get love
You get love
You get love



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Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 11:29 PM CST
[quote=Hugz_n_Kissez]I certainly would consider dating anyone who has suffered abuse...if they have dealt with the issue...I have been there done that...I would not consider dating one who used to abuse though...unless they too have dealt with what causes it..truly and honestly...because I find some abusers...although they no longer abuse physically...resort to verbal and mental abuse....and will say they don't abuse...you can tell if they have dealt with abuser issues if they no longer blame the victim...but take full responsibility for their actions...24/7......[/quote]

oops i seem to have missed some posts ..

hmmm
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cardsfan24
somewhere in paradise, Illinois USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 11:31 PM CST
Look, i like to get spanked and stuff, but gettin beaten is out of the question...or wait a min...hmmm maybe not..grin
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Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 11:34 PM CST
KHD100 wrote:
Some things you get over....... ever watch a child that has been hit too often, and they cringe when someone raises their hands, even if they are not going to hit them?

Unfortunately some things will trigger a feeling or a memory, and there are coping methods, but sometimes it will not go away completely.

Sometimes the recovery is different from one person to the next.JMO, do not feel people completely recover from abuse, but find a way to go on, and yes every one has baggage, it just depends on each individual how much baggage they prefer to keep lugging around.

To be honest, I do not believe anyone is completely free of emotional baggage.

Left the ex, who was 6 ft 2, 400 lbs. a bully, negative and controlling. It was not until 2years ago, I could actually be comfortable alone with a male, sitting at table. even if it was just for coffee.

Did not try to date, meet or have a relationship until I felt I was well enough mentally, physically, and emotionally. There are triggers, that might bring back a memory, or a feeling.... and usually that is a red flag a person is not for me.

In my case it was not that I could like or love again, had to loose that feeling that I was not good enough, or no one would be interested.

Had to get over that stigma of my family's views on divorced women. My mother always said, a divorced woman is another man's piece of garbage. I know differently now, but add that to the brain washing of some one making you feel you are nothing. (that brain washing is done by males and females, and is usual treatment in abusive situations.)

If someone is willing to be there for you, and understand that sometimes, they will need to have patience with a person who has been through abuse, or a traumatic situation. Does not mean they need it 24/7. Also suggest you or anyone does not become the rescuer, because that is not healthy.

Do not do the rescuing. They have to work on themselves and not expect some one to make them feel better or save them.

Sorry for typing a long thread, and revealing more than intended.


thumbs up hug Thanks for sharing ..

I have seen our society has a sort of skewed vision towards people who are divorced trying to nail down the blame on anyone peson and making them feel worse.

In all possibility that could probably be the best solution in the situation but many a times people think of it otherwise.

hug
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Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 11:34 PM CST
cardsfan24 wrote:
Look, i like to get spanked and stuff, but gettin beaten is out of the question...or wait a min...hmmm maybe not..


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cardsfan24
somewhere in paradise, Illinois USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 11:39 PM CST
hiya riya, sorry for injecting my post in here..i should have read the whole thread and all the posts...

I apologize, this is a serious thread and i was jokin...

Women abuse is very wrong, and i think that women who have been beaten are a lot stronger..and more independent..
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Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 11:40 PM CST
cardsfan24 wrote:
hiya riya, sorry for injecting my post in here..i should have read the whole thread and all the posts...

I apologize, this is a serious thread and i was jokin...

Women abuse is very wrong, and i think that women who have been beaten are a lot stronger..and more independent..


Hey thats ok .. hug

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cardsfan24
somewhere in paradise, Illinois USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 11:42 PM CST
riyablossom wrote:
Hey thats ok ..
thank ya hun, at least you know i was just kiddin...hug
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Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 11:43 PM CST
cardsfan24 wrote:
thank ya hun, at least you know i was just kiddin...


yes ..grin
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HJFinAZ
Sun (Sin) CIty, Arizona USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 11:52 PM CST
I have been waiting a long time for some woman to abuse me...sigh
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Harleyquinn
Betwixt the stix, Illinois USA
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 12:13 AM CST



It wouldn't preclude a relationship with that person, necessarily.
To me, what would matter more would be how that person has delt
with whatever situation that had happened. And how they live their life today.

















SHANTIwine
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 12:15 AM CST
Harlequinn wave

True ..
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Harleyquinn
Betwixt the stix, Illinois USA
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 12:17 AM CST
riyablossom wrote:
Harlequinn

True ..






wave



comfort






















SHANTI
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 12:36 AM CST
Growing up my butt got beat for just sitting wrong while tying my shoe and pots thrown at me. It has only effected me in making me stronger. Granted its a memory you won't ever forget when it was your own father, but being a christian you forgive. The only person in this world that can heal a person is God and one's own will to get through the ordeal.

I having been through other things besides just the things with my father but abusive ex's one that cussed and yelled at me constantly and acused me of cheating! I being the way I am used it to my advantage and allowed myself strength and not weakness! I gained a lot of independence from the past!

I understand the emotional scars and the time it takes to heal. I would never expect someone else to try and fix the past , for my past don't need fixing I am thankful for it because without it I wouldn't be who I am today. Would I date someone with emotional baggage? Of course! Exceptance of any flaws! We all got them! Love people for everything they are and everything they are not! Should they expect you to fix their problems? No! But lend them advice on how to better fix their problems? Yes!

This is just my opinion no offense intended!

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cutypie
auckland New Zealand
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 12:45 AM CST
Stop Analising ..............Picking deeper thoughts here on the net.O so its your PH ....hahah ......Go girl.............
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 12:49 AM CST
cutypie wrote:
Stop Analising ..............Picking deeper thoughts here on the net.O so its your PH ....hahah ......Go girl.............


excuse me .. what do u mean ?

Maybe u may contribute to the topic instead of making personal remarks about me.
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 1:13 AM CST
cutypie wrote:
Stop Analising ..............Picking deeper thoughts here on the net.O so its your PH ....hahah ......Go girl.............



Well it's quite plain to see where you got your credentials....I think it must be time for your meds...did they let you both out on a day pass today or something?????





rolling eyes dunno uh oh! D'oh!
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KHD100
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 11:48 AM CST
kurzita wrote:
You're throwing some very interesting threads lately Riya......

Providing a shelter to broken wings is something that has been a permament feature throughout my journey.......

However......it has always been with the same perspective that i have done so.....I do not have a magic wand that makes the pain or hurt go away.....nobody does.

It is up to the individual to heal from the inside. Others can only provide the shelter and the space to come to terms with whatever it is that occurred.

Our lives are like fridges, they have to be cleaned out sometimes, otherwise when you open the door the smells hit you in the face. Such also is baggage.

If that baggage becomes stale, yes, it would ruin a realtionship.

Providing support is one thing, becoming the permanent crutches that makes it possible to walk is another.

From experience, such situation only cause disruption to one's existance.


Very well said.
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KHD100
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 12:04 PM CST
cardsfan24 wrote:
hiya riya, sorry for injecting my post in here..i should have read the whole thread and all the posts...

I apologize, this is a serious thread and i was jokin...

Women abuse is very wrong, and i think that women who have been beaten are a lot stronger..and more independent..


Cardsfan..... sometimes when something hits too close to the mark, or gets too intense, I would do the same thing as you. Make a remark to lighten it up. Just for myself, was not insulted.handshake
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KHD100
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 12:08 PM CST
riyablossom wrote:
I know i am thinking too much lately ...
well .. we have had threads on abuse and people have whole heartedly voiced their opinions and shared their experiences ...

But we also time and again get to hear of people , not just here but even in RL , saying too much emotional baggage will not be a very positive sign in a prospective someone ...

Considering that the abuse ( physical , sexual .. these being impossible to forget ) people face is obviously not what they could have controlled .. its almost going to be obvious that it leaves one emotionally scarred for a long time , even life time !!

Some people heal with time to repress it while some feel the hurt forever .. some of us learn to get along with it ...



Now would you date or consider a relationship with someone who has such an emotional baggage ? or say such experiences in life ?
Will it be of concern to you when you are considering the person for a life partner ?PS : As we know this is a personal and sensitive issue .. i request you to post responses accordingly. Thankyou


Like your thoughts Riya... they do make us communicate, and the things I learn from the responses they bring.

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