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Why is it so hard to be straight up?

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Why is it so hard to be straight up?

Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 8:28 AM CST
fireliter wrote:
HJFinAZ contributed this "ACE formula" in another thread a few days ago

Its applicable to so many of life's hiccups and dilemmas.


yes i agree, it is a good one too, simple but you can't use emotion while deciding these things, imo, otherwise the choice would be clouded, i would think.I will remember this one though, put it in my pocket alreadyapplause
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dazzling_dave
Waynesboro, Virginia USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 8:33 AM CST
When you point a finger at someone, remember that there are 3 pointing back at you. The only thing you have any control over is yourself. Look at those 3 fingers pointing back at you and try to figure out what part you played in everything, and what lesson YOU needed to learn, then move on.
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riyablossom
somewhere India
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 8:34 AM CST
I find it imperative to let someone know whats going on be it positive or negative ..

I find it highly irresponsible on someones part ( unless the other person is in stalker or tormenting mode and u have no other go ) to leave things in mid air .. its got to be say as it is.

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fireliter
Allen Park, Michigan USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 8:34 AM CST
irishlass45 wrote:
yes i agree, it is a good one too, simple but you can't use emotion while deciding these things, imo, otherwise the choice would be clouded, i would think.I will remember this one though, put it in my pocket already


not so sure about not using our emotions... but for me one thing is certain



If I do not "eliminate" at least once a day my mind gets cloudyrolling on the floor laughing
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Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 8:35 AM CST
fireliter wrote:
not so sure about not using our emotions... but for me one thing is certain
If I do not "eliminate" at least once a day my mind gets cloudy


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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 9:03 AM CST
hmmm hard ... straight up ... blowing people off ... me thinks you need some foreplay to become Stressless again giggle
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kkitty
Minnesota USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 9:48 AM CST
StressFree wrote:
For real? I just don't get the casual and usual bs that I encounter in Sweden or in America. First it's a lie, then I guess it's like totally in vogue to just not say anything and leave me hangin....

Why is it so hard for people to just tell you the real deal? I mean, I do tell people when I don't want to do something straight up. I don't fuckin not answer my phone or just not decide to call you anymore...fuck that. I will tell you and put things in the crystal clear.

I can't stand the part about our western culture of just blowing people off....like you will not get a fuckin explanation about whatever becuase ?????????????

Tell me...I am tired of speculating...give me some insight here...why are some people so fuckin shallow that they think they can just be gone with the wind and without a trace.

Is it that cool to just leave somebody hangin and not ever respond and at least give an explantion as to why this or that will not take place and happen? I don't care what you say...just say something and be an adult....
well what if the person was being honest and fear got the better of them.
what if they really wanted to explain and just didn't know how.
would you forgive them?
if not not maybe you just answered your own ? comfort
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Tater
springfield, Illinois USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 9:57 AM CST
drivenbysound wrote:
It digs at an an Aquarius I think more than anybody because they are the truth seekers..and can't understand why people don't do what they say.


I'm not into the whole horoscope thing, but I'm aquarius, and I am the most and blunt person anyone will ever meet, and I to seek the truth abt everything just thought that was neat.....

As to the poster It happens man... Is it immature and kinda bogus? yes, but it happens to everyone from time to time. don't dwell on it... And don't keep "lets say calling the person over and over asking them why, that's what stalkers would do......???? let it go.
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hrt4lse
Redding, California USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 9:59 AM CST
StressFree wrote:
For real? I just don't get the casual and usual bs that I encounter in Sweden or in America. First it's a lie, then I guess it's like totally in vogue to just not say anything and leave me hangin....

Why is it so hard for people to just tell you the real deal? I mean, I do tell people when I don't want to do something straight up. I don't fuckin not answer my phone or just not decide to call you anymore...fuck that. I will tell you and put things in the crystal clear.

I can't stand the part about our western culture of just blowing people off....like you will not get a fuckin explanation about whatever becuase ?????????????

Tell me...I am tired of speculating...give me some insight here...why are some people so fuckin shallow that they think they can just be gone with the wind and without a trace.

Is it that cool to just leave somebody hangin and not ever respond and at least give an explantion as to why this or that will not take place and happen? I don't care what you say...just say something and be an adult....


I think I know what you mean. Some of us were brought up with common courteousy, we call if we're running late or if we're not going to be able to make it, we follow through with what we say we're going to do. Then there are others than don't see the point. I had this discussion just the other day with one of the custodians, he was wondering why this girl got upset with him when he called a half hour after he was supposed to be at her house. I asked him if he called when he knew he wasn't going straight there & he said no. I told him he should have....he didn't really understand why.

The disappearing without a trace happens alot with on line stuff. Either things in life happen & they don't come on line anymore, or they decide that they really don't want contact with the person anymore and disappearing is the only way they know how to handle it. Same way with answering their phone, they just don't know how to handle telling someone no......course, with caller ID it makes it so much easier to tell who's calling or not.....for me if it's "unavailable" or "out of area" with an 800, 866, 888 number I don't bother picking up...lol If it's a name I recognize then I answer.

Hope things go better...how's your visit been other than that?
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 10:01 AM CST
kkitty wrote:
well what if the person was being honest and fear got the better of them.
what if they really wanted to explain and just didn't know how.
would you forgive them?
if not not maybe you just answered your own ?


hmmm
forgiveness works for the forgiver, but rarely changes the non communicator's behavior. It takes a couple seconds to pick a phone and say I'm running late, had second thoughts, etc etc ... some people are just consistently incommunicative. Forgive, yep, but repeat it..nah ... JMHO

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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 10:04 AM CST
I'm really sorry to hear you're going through this, Stressless (maybe I should remove the "less" just this once?laugh)! This kind of experience seems to be so commonplace in relationships that it seems to beg for some kind of moral to the whole morass.

It's very difficult to level with someone about things that one knows will be extremely painful for them. It may seem easier not to say those things at all, despite the rudeness of that. comfort wave wine
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kkitty
Minnesota USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 10:05 AM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
forgiveness works for the forgiver, but rarely changes the non communicator's behavior. It takes a couple seconds to pick a phone and say I'm running late, had second thoughts, etc etc ... some people are just consistently incommunicative. Forgive, yep, but repeat it..nah ... JMHO

ohhhhhhhhhhh Benatural grin
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 10:07 AM CST
kkitty wrote:
ohhhhhhhhhhh Benatural


au naturelle wave
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kkitty
Minnesota USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 10:09 AM CST
did you know that stressed is desserts spelt backwards
just saying grin
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 10:10 AM CST
kkitty wrote:
did you know that stressed is desserts spelt backwards
just saying


laugh

well he left without telling anyone!!!! incommunicative baskurd... now I'm desserts backwards mumbling



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HJFinAZ
Sun (Sin) CIty, Arizona USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 10:18 AM CST
1. "Expectations" Tony, we have expectations. When we place expectations upon others, we set ourselves up for disappointment.

2. Some people cannot be honest, they so want to be "accepted" by others that they fabricate, stories, excuses, etc.

3. "MY" experience is (for me), it is better to simply turn around and walk away....


dunno
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alabamabebe
Banks of the Warrior River, Alabama USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 10:57 AM CST
alabamabebe wrote:
No effin' sh*t .

What I hate is when they say they'll do something and don't, and I'm thinking unless you're in the freakin' hospital there's no excuse, then think, I'd feel bad if they really were?
Who the frack knows. What I don't get is you don't have to lie to me. Tell me anything, I'm cool with it. Tell me nothing, I'm not.

And then I find out someone really was at the hospital, and feel like a freakin' asshole! frustrated

I'm not a psycho, really I'm not, momentary lapse. frustrated D@mn, that wall is getting hard! laugh
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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 1:06 PM CST
Thanks for the input everybodywine I totally appreciate it.

I feel much better today...now that I am not so drunk.

What happened yesterday was that one of my best friends did not show up to have dinner with me over at fisherman's wharf...so I waited and waited and waited....and that fucker would not answer his phone or return at least a text. This just made me apeshit cause I have known this guy since I was 16. So I get some bs text a while ago saying that he got caught up at work and could not escape....sure buddy....we planned this like 2 weeks ago. Okay, the dude has a high pressured job and is some important business executive, but I don't care. We planned this two weeks ago and for him to value his work over our friendship is just bizarre in my world....good for him and he is the one who has to live with it. He said he is planning to visit me when I am in Las Vegas again next week....sure guy. I told him to stop making promises and to fuck off.

Also, my next door neighbor that I grew up with, never returned my calls or mails. She lives in Long Beach and I was planning to visit here there...I just don't get why she never returned any of my reach out messages...we are like brother and sister...we never has an arguement or anything...we had a great time last time I was here two years ago...so I'll just assume she is depressed....

Anyways, it's sunny today and my other best friend is coming over in a bit..this guy is the one of two friends that I can trust.

True, the control issue is one thing I can do about myself and my understanding, but it aint easy people when it does actually happen...it's a process.

When women do this or possible dates, that I can understand...kinda. But when friends do it......very mad
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 1:07 PM CST

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Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 1:26 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
Is it that cool to just leave somebody hangin and not ever respond and at least give an explantion


I have simply started equalling it to a sure sign it's all over... As for possible reasons, who really cares - I will blame it on incompatibility. I must admit I also probably do a lot of the same stuff, as I find it hard to tell someone I am not interested (or not interested anymore) and/or why, especially because some people can get very rude after being "rejected" (they don't understand that it's for their own good also, not just my whim or being picky).
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