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Jose13
Azángaro, Puno Peru
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 6:47 PM CST
This is from one of the websites that discuss this subject. I am interested in the subject as the opposite can happen too. Men that find themselves in a sexless marriage or partnertship (read the article first before giving opinion)
I mean I have noticed that in many situations women might start the relationship in a very sexual way -as men want in mnay cases- just to fall in their characteristic worries of building life together, children, etc, all those things putting an end to the initial passion.

I am just curious to know about people's opinion.
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Hera's Women and the Loveless, Sexless Marriage

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Many women have found themselves in a loveless, sexless marriage. For some this is due to an identified source such as an injury or disease with which their husbands suffer. For others the cause is their husband's addiction to adult entertainment, his infidelity or un-confessed homosexuality.

For others, there came a day when it was all over physically for no apparent reason. The husband no longer desires physical intimacy of any kind, from intercourse to holding hands.

Having concluded the problem is none of the above (in the first paragraph), these women found themselves shut out by more than their husbands; they've been left out in the cold by a society that's convinced the problem is with the wife and refuses to believe there could be anything wrong with the husband. Too, many of these women have been told to simply accept their husband’s lack of desire, effectively shutting down any valid need she has for closeness with her life mate. These women have found judgment and presumption in abundance while support and assistance is severely lacking.

Hera, the Greek goddess of marriage, is the symbol used by the online support group, Hera's Women, to represent those women whose husbands have redefined their relationship as a loveless, sexless union.

Hera's Women is not a dating-romance connection network nor does it seek to accomodate men and/or those who know why their marriage is without affection. It is specifically designed to welcome, validate, and support those women who already know that none of the above-listed problems (in the first paragraph) apply to their situation.

Some of the comments and commenters of the article, "The Loveless, Sexless Marriage" are the reason Hera's Women was started. For more information or to subscribe, please visit Hera's Women.
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livinglarge
kildare, Kildare Ireland
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 6:56 PM CST
Stop trying to flog!!thumbs down
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 6:56 PM CST
well...this should win you some "points" with the ladies!!



But you failed to mention anything about loveless, sexless marriages and men!! Wonder why????

Personally, I believe this happens more often than with women.


JMO, of course
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JuleeBeth
Sun Prairie, Wisconsin USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 8:06 PM CST
A loveless and sexless marriage??!! That would be pure hell!! frustrated




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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 8:35 PM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
well...this should win you some "points" with the ladies!!
But you failed to mention anything about loveless, sexless marriages and men!! Wonder why????

Personally, I believe this happens more often than with women.JMO, of course


He did mention that at the beginning when he said "and the opposite."

Anyhow, my experience has been that it does happen both ways. Some women find it hard to get amorous when they have been working all day with kids and a job and housework, especially if she doesn't have a partner that contributes time with the housework or kids,... consequence: too tired for sex..

Some men do just switch off, some have prostrate or other problems, some have wives that castrate them mentally so they can't get it up any more, many men over fifty have trouble sustaining erection due to age or whatever, some just get tired of the same old routine with the same partner, some partners snore and end up in seperate rooms, and some hate their partners and can't stand to look at them anymore never mind sleep with them.

There are many and varied reasons for not doing it anymore, from both sides.

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Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 8:46 PM CST
livinglarge wrote:
Stop trying to flog!!


Ya, no floggers!!!head banger head banger head banger
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 8:57 PM CST
I think you have made it your lifes work to argue with everything I say!! Enjoy yourselfzzzz
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alex_192
sarasota USA
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 1:28 PM CST
Jose13 wrote:
This is from one of the websites that discuss this subject. I am interested in the subject as the opposite can happen too. Men that find themselves in a sexless marriage or partnertship (read the article first before giving opinion)
I mean I have noticed that in many situations women might start the relationship in a very sexual way -as men want in mnay cases- just to fall in their characteristic worries of building life together, children, etc, all those things putting an end to the initial passion.

I am just curious to know about people's opinion.
Bye
Hera's Women and the Loveless, Sexless Marriage

Support for the wives of the Loveless, Sexless Marriage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Many women have found themselves in a loveless, sexless marriage. For some this is due to an identified source such as an injury or disease with which their husbands suffer. For others the cause is their husband's addiction to adult entertainment, his infidelity or un-confessed homosexuality.

For others, there came a day when it was all over physically for no apparent reason. The husband no longer desires physical intimacy of any kind, from intercourse to holding hands.

Having concluded the problem is none of the above (in the first paragraph), these women found themselves shut out by more than their husbands; they've been left out in the cold by a society that's convinced the problem is with the wife and refuses to believe there could be anything wrong with the husband. Too, many of these women have been told to simply accept their husband’s lack of desire, effectively shutting down any valid need she has for closeness with her life mate. These women have found judgment and presumption in abundance while support and assistance is severely lacking.

Hera, the Greek goddess of marriage, is the symbol used by the online support group, Hera's Women, to represent those women whose husbands have redefined their relationship as a loveless, sexless union.

Hera's Women is not a dating-romance connection network nor does it seek to accomodate men and/or those who know why their marriage is without affection. It is specifically designed to welcome, validate, and support those women who already know that none of the above-listed problems (in the first paragraph) apply to their situation.

Some of the comments and commenters of the article, "The Loveless, Sexless Marriage" are the reason Hera's Women was started. For more information or to subscribe, please visit Hera's Women.


that is the best kind of relationship

and as it is said in the article

it is always the female fault
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solitare
Munchen, Bayern Germany
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 1:50 PM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
well...this should win you some "points" with the ladies!!
But you failed to mention anything about loveless, sexless marriages and men!! Wonder why????

Personally, I believe this happens more often than with women.JMO, of course


Agreed; over many years that is the number one complaint from most men that I know when this topic comes up.
Many seem to follow a pattern in that all or most what drove the man's sexual passions stop within a year of marriage children or not; after children virtually all have said the same...'she stopped...' 'she won't do......any more...' she's always tired....always has a headache...etc. etc. I've heard all this so often that it seems to be the number one complaint; the number one cause fro building up resentments on the man's part. Many males think that their wives become fat on purpose to avoid sex...so seems to be the impression of many. On the other hand, however....counseling should be sought out to remedy the situation if the love is actually there for both parties. Not to seek professional help will only add to the misery felt by one or by both; one simply should not avoid sex in a healthy loving relationship; it is by all accounts, the best way we humans have of expressing our affections and love for another in a marriage...jmo and all that also.
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Jan1305
(Moscow region temporarily), Murcia Spain
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 2:27 PM CST
solitare wrote:
Agreed; over many years that is the number one complaint from most men that I know when this topic comes up.
Many seem to follow a pattern in that all or most what drove the man's sexual passions stop within a year of marriage children or not; after children virtually all have said the same...'she stopped...' 'she won't do......any more...' she's always tired....always has a headache...etc. etc. I've heard all this so often that it seems to be the number one complaint; the number one cause fro building up resentments on the man's part. Many males think that their wives become fat on purpose to avoid sex...so seems to be the impression of many. On the other hand, however....counseling should be sought out to remedy the situation if the love is actually there for both parties. Not to seek professional help will only add to the misery felt by one or by both; one simply should not avoid sex in a healthy loving relationship; it is by all accounts, the best way we humans have of expressing our affections and love for another in a marriage...jmo and all that also.


I'm sorry but I disagree solitaire, hello BTW!

I'm not altogether convinced by the lack of sex complaints men may talk to each other about. Actually, do men usually talk about these things seriously with each other? I'm inclined to believe if the subject is brought up it's more of a jokey remark down the pub. Much like the mother-in -law jokes.

Men very often won't admit to problems in that department, so it's much easier to make a light-hearted remark and heap the blame on the wife. (Oh and if they are making the jokes down the pub with their mates they ought to have an inkling why their wives may not want sex with them!)

I've met many women (my age and older at least) whose husbands cannot 'get it up' for the reasons already given in another post. My own marriage was sexless for the last two years because he was stressed due to work committments and refused to go the doctor to seek help. He was older than me, in his early fifties and he just used to say it was nromal for men his age. Well I didn't believe him then and I certainly don't believe him now having met a couple of men older than him who were more than able.

Incidentally. women may get fatter with middle-age, as do men, but I'd be highly surprised if there are more than a handful of women (and they would have to have some serious emotional issues going on) who deliberately put weight on to avoid sex. It's unheard of, women don't like being fat and there are many other ways of avoiding sex if that's the road they choose to go down.

Finally, if women say they are tired they generally are. If they have jobs, kids and bear the burden of most of the household chores it's not surprising they can't jump on their husbands is it?
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 2:41 PM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
I think you have made it your lifes work to argue with everything I say!! Enjoy yourself


Just guessing, but was that aimed at me? If it was I was just pointing out something, not getting at you personally.

I lived with a man for 13 years who didn't want sex most of the time or if I complained, he used it for control. I used to waken him up in the middle of the night or try to catch him in the mornings to get near him at all. It was a long 13 years.

I have dated men in recent years that told me straight off that they were impotent or weren't interested in that side of a relationship.

It suited me at the time to keep things platonic but found it wasn't good to even think about that for a long term relationship. I usually ended it and often that contributed to the cause of the split.

For me it is a very big part of loving someone, being able to express it that way as often as possible. I know this isn't the case for everyone but unless you get two people who aren't pushed about sex, then one of them is going to be very unhappy or downright miserable.wine
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onegoodguy1959
Bedford, Texas USA
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 2:44 PM CST
JuleeBeth wrote:
A loveless and sexless marriage??!! That would be pure hell!!

Been there, done that, and yeah...it was.
But I stuck with it for 18 years because I had made a commitment. Finally I couldn't take it anymore.
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 3:05 PM CST
onegoodguy1959 wrote:
Been there, done that, and yeah...it was.
But I stuck with it for 18 years because I had made a commitment. Finally I couldn't take it anymore.


How or when did things change, from being with a person you loved who loved you? Was there a trigger for the behaviour?
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 5:15 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
How or when did things change, from being with a person you loved who loved you? Was there a trigger for the behaviour?



the "no sex" was the behavior. laugh
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 5:15 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
the "no sex" was the behavior.
along w/the trigger........ oops.
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sxc666
Central Coast, New South Wales Australia
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 5:18 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
the "no sex" was the behavior.
laugh laugh yeah.
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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 5:23 PM CST
livinglarge wrote:
Stop trying to flog!!


What the heck does that mean?confused
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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 5:30 PM CST
I've been there as well. I'm fairly certain that it is virtually never one of the partners' fault entirely. It is a state of relating that generally reflects on both people's feelings toward the other - just as most problems in relationships involve both individuals, not just one. It takes two to tango, as the hoary but true cliche goes.

The idea that both individuals in a relationship bear responsibility for that relationship doesn't seem to be a popular notion here, I've noticed. Here, the mainstay is blaming the other.

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sxc666
Central Coast, New South Wales Australia
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 5:31 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
I've been there as well. I'm fairly certain that it is virtually never one of the partners' fault entirely. It is a state of relating that generally reflects on both people's feelings toward the other - just as most problems in relationships involve both individuals, not just one. It takes two to tango, as the hoary but true cliche goes.

The idea that both individuals in a relationship bear responsibility for that relationship doesn't seem to be a popular notion here, I've noticed. Here, the mainstay is blaming the other.
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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 5:39 PM CST

Hi, Sexy!head banger hug

I blamed my wife for years for withholding sex. And then one bright day, I sort of woke up and thought...why wouldn't she withhold sex from someone who behaves like an asshole?

That said, in a perfect world withholding sex is a very bad strategy, even if it's understandable - perhaps even unavoidable if you have negative feelings toward your spouse/partner. A better choice is to open the lines of communication and do some couple-counseling, but it's not always easy to reach the point where one is willing to do that.

What generally happens, I suspect, is that couples get into a negative feedback loop precipitated by bad behavior by one person resulting in a bad response, and so on. sad flower
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