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i'm going to a demonstration march today ! what have you ever demonstrated about ? and why ?

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i'm going to a demonstration march today ! what have you ever demonstrated about ? and why ?




Zeelander
Louisville, Kentucky USA
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 5:20 AM CST
trish123 wrote:
The last thing I want to do is argue with you Jim but its all about choices as I see it - if you choose to be a soldier then you are aware of the risks that choice involves.

Im the first to make a point of political suppression in other countries and the lack of rights many of these poor people are faced with - I just think there has to be a better way of solving these problems than sending in the troops.
My reason for marching that day was more to do with letting the media and authorities know that millions of people were seeing through their propaganda and social manipulations.

If they were so worried about the atrocities being carried out by Sadam, then why are we not seeing a similar reaction to the rape camps of Darfur or some kind of sanctions against the Mugawe regime......


Who gives you the right to make choices?.... a soldier

Troops are normally the last resort

Don't you think the reason that Darfur slipped through the cracks is because the politicians just got too damn tired of the protests and if troops were needed there would be more protests?

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MARTI
msida, Majjistral Malta
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 5:23 AM CST
kurzita wrote:
Yes, once.

There was a period in the not so distant future when political tension hit a high on these islands.

Some idiot wanted to show the other side how macho he could be, and let loose some shots at the facade of a political club of the opposite faction.

One bullet went haywire, and hit a young man and killed him.

The following day there was a silent march organised in Valletta, our capital. Thousands of people attended, mostly younger ones. The city went quite that day. Nobody so much as wishpered. Most, like myself, were crying. It ended infront of parliament with the National Anthem being sung.

And yes it worked. In the followign days both leaders of the main political parties went public togethere on all forms of media, and changes where immediately put in place to diffuse the entire situation. Which they thankfully did.

And still proud that I was one of those that helped to make it so.


I was there too....really dodgy past i would say very mad

I also demonstrated towards animal rights at the circus and another time towards the benefits of our freedom of liberisation of private schools and hospitals.

Thank God it's history now.wave
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Lillym
Sliema, Majjistral Malta
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 5:25 AM CST
MARTI wrote:
I was there too....really dodgy past i would say

I also demonstrated towards animal rights at the circus and another time towards the benefits of our freedom of liberisation of private schools and hospitals.

Thank God it's history now.


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Zeelander
Louisville, Kentucky USA
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 5:34 AM CST
I was attending Michigan State University back in 1991 the night that ground forces were sent into Iraq. I saw a group of war protesters heading for the bell tower park. As a vet, I knew it was my duty to go and take these people on and support my brothers in arms. When I arrived on sight, I was amazed at the number of students already there. I knew that I was going to end up in the hospital that night by speaking my mind. To my amazement, there were about 20 pro war to every 1 anti. The antis were throwing anything they could get their hands on and the pros stayed calm and just shouted the antis down.

That brings up another question..... why are anti war protesters the first to get violent? Maybe that should be for another thread.

Zee
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jimbhoy
In Glasgow, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 6:03 AM CST
trish123 wrote:
The last thing I want to do is argue with you Jim but its all about choices as I see it - if you choose to be a soldier then you are aware of the risks that choice involves.

Im the first to make a point of political suppression in other countries and the lack of rights many of these poor people are faced with - I just think there has to be a better way of solving these problems than sending in the troops.

My reason for marching that day was more to do with letting the media and authorities know that millions of people were seeing through their propaganda and social manipulations.

If they were so worried about the atrocities being carried out by Sadam, then why are we not seeing a similar reaction to the rape camps of Darfur or some kind of sanctions against the Mugawe regime......


My point is that a soldier is there to protect your rights to protest. yet we had to take the brunt of your protests...
For whatever reason we go to war is neither here nor there to a soldier. We do our job regardless...
We dont choose when and where we go to war.. our job is to be ready when told to go... Yes Trish I did choose the path to be in the Army, Yes Trish I have been in 3 wars and over a dozen war-zones in various countries around the world..
I believe I have made a difference to lot of peoples lives in what I did or by just being there. I have seen good friends die during my time too.
Atrocities!!! I have seen more than you know.. eg Croatia, Kosovo and Iraq.. I have seen Sadams torture cells and met men ,women and children who were victims..... just seeing those people was enough to know we were right to go there. I got shot by an Iraqi policeman who was there to enforce Sadams laws..well he is now pernamently retired from that or any other job now.
Protest all you want.. I helped keeping that right for you... Just DO NOT BLAME soldiers for doing thier jobs... We work hard to give you the freedome you seem to take for granted...

JMHO trish
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Crystal29
Glasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 6:14 AM CST
jimbhoy wrote:
My point is that a soldier is there to protect your rights to protest. yet we had to take the brunt of your protests...
For whatever reason we go to war is neither here nor there to a soldier. We do our job regardless...
We dont choose when and where we go to war.. our job is to be ready when told to go... Yes Trish I did choose the path to be in the Army, Yes Trish I have been in 3 wars and over a dozen war-zones in various countries around the world..
I believe I have made a difference to lot of peoples lives in what I did or by just being there. I have seen good friends die during my time too.
Atrocities!!! I have seen more than you know.. eg Croatia, Kosovo and Iraq.. I have seen Sadams torture cells and met men ,women and children who were victims..... just seeing those people was enough to know we were right to go there. I got shot by an Iraqi policeman who was there to enforce Sadams laws..well he is now pernamently retired from that or any other job now.
Protest all you want.. I helped keeping that right for you... Just DO NOT BLAME soldiers for doing thier jobs... We work hard to give you the freedome you seem to take for granted...

JMHO trish


Its good to see it from a soldiers point of view so well said Jim...... thumbs up



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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 9:26 AM CST


I have trouble making the time to schedule my protests. Most people are busy working for a living.
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ANurse4U
Memphis, Tennessee USA
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 9:33 AM CST
Zeelander wrote:
I was attending Michigan State University back in 1991 the night that ground forces were sent into Iraq. I saw a group of war protesters heading for the bell tower park. As a vet, I knew it was my duty to go and take these people on and support my brothers in arms. When I arrived on sight, I was amazed at the number of students already there. I knew that I was going to end up in the hospital that night by speaking my mind. To my amazement, there were about 20 pro war to every 1 anti. The antis were throwing anything they could get their hands on and the pros stayed calm and just shouted the antis down.

That brings up another question..... why are anti war protesters the first to get violent? Maybe that should be for another thread.

Zee


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ANurse4U
Memphis, Tennessee USA
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 9:36 AM CST
jimbhoy wrote:
My point is that a soldier is there to protect your rights to protest. yet we had to take the brunt of your protests...
For whatever reason we go to war is neither here nor there to a soldier. We do our job regardless...
We dont choose when and where we go to war.. our job is to be ready when told to go... Yes Trish I did choose the path to be in the Army, Yes Trish I have been in 3 wars and over a dozen war-zones in various countries around the world..
I believe I have made a difference to lot of peoples lives in what I did or by just being there. I have seen good friends die during my time too.
Atrocities!!! I have seen more than you know.. eg Croatia, Kosovo and Iraq.. I have seen Sadams torture cells and met men ,women and children who were victims..... just seeing those people was enough to know we were right to go there. I got shot by an Iraqi policeman who was there to enforce Sadams laws..well he is now pernamently retired from that or any other job now.
Protest all you want.. I helped keeping that right for you... Just DO NOT BLAME soldiers for doing thier jobs... We work hard to give you the freedome you seem to take for granted...

JMHO trish


Soldiers are my heros teddy bear

By they way, have I said thank you teddy bear hug
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 9:57 AM CST
In the sixties and early seventies, I was very much involved with social issues. I have marched for civil rights, against the war in Vietnam( I later changed my mind, and served in Vietnam), womens rights and gay rights.

The last demonstration I participated in was against medicaid and medicare health policies. And that was earlier this year.

I don't believe people can expect change till they are willing to do something to effect change.

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Emanuellla
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Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 10:20 AM CST
i went to some demonstrations against the communist party that is still ruling in my countryD'oh! hope this year ppl will be more careful whom they would chooseuh oh!
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nomindgames
Painesville, Ohio USA
Posted: Jul 19, 2008, 10:37 AM CST
I did a march to stp the cruelty of animals and also a protest to save the wales.Back in the day,1968,1971,I protested againist Vietnam,although don't get me wrong I am a lover and respecter of all our troops,vets and now serving.It is and was the govt officials that made rules that I protested about.Also when they were going to build nuclear plant here in my area,I was againist it,but have changed my mind.I have done many wal-a-thons to raise money for a city animal shelter,stop child abuse,and there was Hands across America,.I look back in my life and reflect at times.I see some of wht I did was what I still see as right and some I didn't have all the facts at the time,just young and rebelous.If you beleive strongly enough about an issue,then I think it is worth it win,lose or draw.When I was only 14 I marched with a group for civil rights.My mother whipped me when I got home,but it was worth it.yay peace
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gillyloves69
london, Outer London, England UK
Posted: Jul 20, 2008, 1:33 AM CST
I went to trafalger square yesterday to film nigerian people march from the square to no 10 downing street.

And then to the nigerian high commissioner, to present a pettition against the proposed british military involvement in the niger delta area of nigeria ( in other words a " no more war over oil thank you!...and whats more is you british are only looking after you own interest ") kind of march !

I went there to continue working on a profile film of an nigerian political recording artist that i started working with a couple months ago ...and yesterday meet even more interesting people !...and some new freinds to carry on making more films with !

One of them is an admirer of Ken Saro Wiwa the guy the nigerian military regime wrongly executed in the 90's with 7 other people for demanding rights for the people living in the niger delta oil rich region of nigeria where 70% of the people live in poverty

He's an ex soldier that fought in the nigerian civil war thats got so much interesting things to say about himself, africa, the british empire, dodgy african politicians, Ken Saro Wiwa,his admirers, and other africans fighting for the struggle of poor african people in an area that produces 70% of the country's main export... that i'm going to carry on filmming him and his freinds again today !:

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Posted: Jul 20, 2008, 2:04 AM CST
The only demonstating I ever did was while selling Amway products when I was a kid. rolling on the floor laughing
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Posted: Jul 20, 2008, 3:41 AM CST
gillyloves69 wrote:
and was it worthwhile ?

I demonstrated against a nuclear plant when I was young. Chernobyl happened, after Three mile and we were done.

My protest didn't mean jack. Chernobyl was serious, and real. It spoke for everyone.

I'm tempted to march against the new immigration laws and march with gays.
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Posted: Jul 20, 2008, 3:53 AM CST
gillyloves69 wrote:
I went to trafalger square yesterday to film nigerian people march from the square to no 10 downing street.

And then to the nigerian high commissioner, to present a pettition against the proposed british military involvement in the niger delta area of nigeria ( in other words a " no more war over oil thank you!...and whats more is you british are only looking after you own interest ") kind of march !

I went there to continue working on a profile film of an nigerian political recording artist that i started working with a couple months ago ...and yesterday meet even more interesting people !...and some new freinds to carry on making more films with !

One of them is an admirer of Ken Saro Wiwa the guy the nigerian military regime wrongly executed in the 90's with 7 other people for demanding rights for the people living in the niger delta oil rich region of nigeria where 70% of the people live in poverty

He's an ex soldier that fought in the nigerian civil war thats got so much interesting things to say about himself, africa, the british empire, dodgy african politicians, Ken Saro Wiwa,his admirers, and other africans fighting for the struggle of poor african people in an area that produces 70% of the country's main export... that i'm going to carry on filmming him and his freinds again today !:

yay:


What about MEND who have already kidnapped Americans? Did me in over the Niger rebels. Yeah, I'm not with holding people for months, just because they work for oil companies. I think it's up to Nigeria to train people to make their money. I don't think any American company should try to send workers. Let 'em find Nigerians for work.
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gillyloves69
london, Outer London, England UK
Posted: Jul 20, 2008, 4:51 AM CST
trish123 wrote:
I marched through Manchester one day with thousands of others, marches were going on all round the world that same day too - we were chanting 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 WE DONT WANT YOUR BLOODY WAR........ it didnt make the least bit of difference sadly.........Hiya Jim Hiya Gilly too if you havent gone out, whats your march about?



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hi trish !

its about the niga delta !


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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jul 20, 2008, 6:35 AM CST
Emanuellla wrote:
i went to some demonstrations against the communist party that is still ruling in my country hope this year ppl will be more careful whom they would choose



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trublu
Rialto USA
Posted: Jul 20, 2008, 9:08 AM CST
Yes, even as a kid I did. First one was to protest the busing they were forcing on us in schools as that BS desegregation crap. All it did was make kids lose friends and get in 10 times more fights. Didn't do a good thing at all for anyone, and we were ticked at having to deal with all of this and still get decent grades. Yes, we were successful, it stopped.

Right now I am chomping at the bit for some demonstration of protest AGAINST THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT INVASION or OBAMA, and I will be there with bells on. Got the big placards, signs, t-shirts, all of that, and plenty to loan to friends who want to come with. We make a day of it.
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lorax111
richmond, Virginia USA
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 11:30 AM CST
Wow, I have never been to one. To tell the truth I am surprised at myself. A demonstration is certainly my style.


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