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whats worse being a racist ? or being a religionist ? lets start talking deep !

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princess49503
grand rapids, Michigan USA
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 11:05 PM CST
KHD100 wrote:
The information came from some of the TV programs I watched and from one article about the area around Jenna... I wish I still had it.

It stayed with me, and struck me as odd for this day and age to still hear stuff like this. Worse for the ones living it.

There were other bits of information but if I post them, there is no guarantee how accurate it is


the only people not allowed to vote are minors (under 18 years old) and people currently incarcerated.


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princess49503
grand rapids, Michigan USA
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 11:09 PM CST
KHD100 wrote:
The information came from some of the TV programs I watched and from one article about the area around Jenna... I wish I still had it.

It stayed with me, and struck me as odd for this day and age to still hear stuff like this. Worse for the ones living it.

There were other bits of information but if I post them, there is no guarantee how accurate it is


as far as African Americans not living in the same area as whites, it is not a forced arrangement. there are many, many factors that people (all people) take into consideration for living arrangements.
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KHD100
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 11:13 PM CST
princess49503 wrote:
the only people not allowed to vote are minors (under 18 years old) and people currently incarcerated.


It was more than one person from that town, a couple of caucasian people also stated that blacks were not allowed to vote. in the city elections, for mayor etc
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princess49503
grand rapids, Michigan USA
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 11:20 PM CST
KHD100 wrote:
It was more than one person from that town, a couple of caucasian people also stated that blacks were not allowed to vote. in the city elections, for mayor etc



bad information, i don't believe that for a second. The right to vote is a basic right. Local elections are not widely publicized but any free citizen over 18 may vote in them.

any free American says they were not allowed to vote is full of it. Granted, Louisiana has a screwy legal system but messing with blacks right to vote is not negotiable.

If it WAS true, they (African Americans) would burn the entire state of LA to the ground.
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Sparky55
Prattville, Alabama USA
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 11:20 PM CST
KHD100 wrote:
It was more than one person from that town, a couple of caucasian people also stated that blacks were not allowed to vote. in the city elections, for mayor etc


Vote or not vote may be debatable. What isn't is that there is/was a clear case of racism in that town. I found lots of information on it and the case is pretty clear. The court ruling has also been overturned and there's more coming in the near future.

It's a shame this kind of thing still exists especially as blatantlyly as in this case.
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KHD100
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 11:59 PM CST
Sparky55 wrote:
Vote or not vote may be debatable. What isn't is that there is/was a clear case of racism in that town. I found lots of information on it and the case is pretty clear. The court ruling has also been overturned and there's more coming in the near future.

It's a shame this kind of thing still exists especially as blatantlyly as in this case.


Even knowing there was racism, this story still haunts me from what I saw on the TV and read in the news. Still sends chills down my spine.

The part about not allowed to vote stayed with me because I could not phanthum how the town got away with it. Then when I compared it to some of the stuff that went on in Quebec... there is always some way for them to justify what they do.It sad, and the anger that comes from it, and then you get the religious leaders (with all their camera crew following them around...the posturing speachs) make it worse (jmo)

Time for some zzzz's

Natta
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thewall2
montreal, Quebec Canada
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 12:00 AM CST
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patrickthomas
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 2:56 AM CST
princess49503 wrote:
where did you get this info?


I checked this story on the Net and there is a ton of material supporting this story, two sections in Wikipedia alone and over 18 million results from google!
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Dont_Look_Now
Huntsville, Alabama USA
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 2:59 AM CST
They are both horriblescold... I could not possibly pick which is worse though dunno
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 6:00 AM CST
Racism equates with IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doesn't matter what Side it comes from!!!!!!!
One Side trying to deny the Other THE RIGHT TO LIVE!!!!!!!!!!frustrated frustrated frustrated
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 6:03 AM CST
Hi Conrad! Taking a break from our Danish friend? wave

I need your views on straw hat wearing in my poll....it's summer and time for some heavy subjects! lol

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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 6:47 AM CST
KHD100 wrote:
Bill Quigley ...... All white jury sitting before white judge agrees with white prosecutor and all white witnesses and convicts black youth in racially charged high school criminal case.
In a small, still mostly segregated, section of rural Louisiana, an all white jury heard a series of white witnesses called by a white prosecutor testify in a courtroom overseen by a white judge in a trial of a fight at the local high school where a white student who had been making racial taunts was hit by black students. The fight was the culmination of a series of racial incidents starting when whites responded to black students sitting under the "white tree" at their school by hanging three nooses from the tree. The white jury and white prosecutor and all white supporters of the white victim were all on one side of the courtroom. The black defendant, 17-year-old Mychal Bell, and his supporters were on the other. The jury quickly convicted Mychal Bell of two felonies - aggravated battery and conspiracy to commit aggravated battery. Bell, who was a 16-year-old sophomore football star at the time he was arrested, faces up to 22 years in prison. Five other black youths await similar trials on second-degree attempted murder and conspiracy charges.
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In September 2006, a black student at Jena high school asked permission from school administrators to sit under the "white tree." School officials advised them to sit wherever they wanted. They did. The next day, three nooses, in the school colors, were hanging from the "white tree." The message was clear. "Those nooses meant the KKK, they meant 'Niggers, we're going to kill you, we're going to hang you till you die,'" Casteptla Bailey, a mother of one of the students, told the London Observer.

The Jena high school principal found that three white students were responsible and recommended expulsion. The white superintendent of schools over-ruled the principal and gave the students a three-day suspension saying the nooses were just a youthful stunt. "Adolescents play pranks," the superintendent told the Chicago Tribune, "I don't think it was a threat against anybody."

The African-American community was hurt and upset. "Hanging those nooses was a hate crime, plain and simple," according to Tracy Bowens, a mother of students at Jena High.

But blacks in this area of Louisiana have little political power. The ten-person, all-male government of the parish has one African-American member. The nine-member, all-male school board has one African-American member. (A person called the local school board trying to find out the racial makeup of the school board, and was told there was one "colored" member of the board). There is one black police officer in Jena and two black public school teachers.




Fair an equal opportunities in America. Yeah right!rolling eyes



I cannot stand people who argue that racism isn't as bad as it really is, then accuse the blacks for reverse racism. Like people should 'brave it up' and easily 'forget/ignore' what they face. Kinda like blaming a person for 'yelling' when they get their toes stamped on with an anvil. Perhaps people in America should find the 'root' of the problem and stop accusing each other.
These are the reasons i've recently decided i will not have a mixed race child, ever. It is they ( children) who suffer the most and none of us can really grasp the magnitude of it all. Growing up is hard enough being whatever kind of child and this kind of sick society, only makes them breed resentment and hate towards each other.


Trivializing racism is probaby the most ignorant thing to do. YES, it exists and won't go away any time soon.

Not talking about you KHD100, by the way. Just a general comment inspired by the story.

Nice post. thumbs up
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KHD100
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 6:54 AM CST
Some of the posts on here, kept making me think of the Jenna 6.

Take care every one have a great day!
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TheEnglishman
Newport, Shropshire, England UK
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 7:01 AM CST
Conrad73 wrote:
Racism equates with IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doesn't matter what Side it comes from!!!!!!!
One Side trying to deny the Other THE RIGHT TO LIVE!!!!!!!!!!



I am most sorry to disagree so strongly.
I realise your Swiss and maybe your command of the English language is not that good.

Please read a 1970 edition of the Oxford dictionary,,(no other will do as it is the bible of our language) and read carefully what it say's about "Racism".

Your view,,"one side denying the other the right to live",,,is quite another matter.

Understand this about your words,,,these words are banded about everywhere and have been for 25 years ,,the words that have been carefully crafted by politicians and the politicians right arm,,the MEDIA to fool us all,,,that it is our fault,,,we the people,,we are the barbarians,,the haters,,the ignorant.

Look at the hater's,,,have you actually met,,(come into personal contact with) more than 4 people,,in your life,,that you know,,HATE,,,LOATHE,,DISPISE,,others because of skin colour or where they come from.

If everyone is to believe your words,,,"one side denying the other ,,THE RIGHT To LIVE".
Then we must look at,,,America vs Vietnam,,,America & Britain vs Iraq.
China vs Tibet,,Russia vs Chetchnia,,the list is endless.
But then,,,what do you say?,,what words do use?,,when civil unrest erupts,,,the best example,,Korea vs Korea.
What is the difference between that war,,hot or cold,,and Vietnam...NONE is the unfortunate answer.
What you now have to define from all of that history,,,and all of that conflict,,,is this..
WERE THESE WARS/CONFLICTS,, "RACISIST" BY DEFINITION?,,,"THAT THEY WERE DENIED THE RIGHT TO LIVE,,OR LIVE HOW THEY WANTED TO."

Tricky stuff is'nt it?
Its tricky,,,because it has become muddled by the "political correct brigade",,who as usual have'nt the brains to see what their actions can cause further along in time AND WE the people desperatly try to understand their bullshit,,we try to unravel it,,,as if it were alchemy.

Look at these posts,,,all of them,,how can so much,,such variety,,come from one simple,,and simply defined word,,,unless it has been made to be more than what it is....(take a while to work out,,took me 15 years.)

Racism,,is a word that is banded about to remind us all,,,constantly,,that it exists,That it is real,,,and it won't go away,,so when the day comes,,it can be used,,for us,,or more probaly,,against us,,,like giving a child a load machine gun.
(See the future for more details.)

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lorax111
richmond, Virginia USA
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 7:16 AM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
Fair an equal opportunities in America. Yeah right!
I cannot stand people who argue that racism isn't as bad as it really is, then accuse the blacks for reverse racism. Like people should 'brave it up' and easily 'forget/ignore' what they face. Kinda like blaming a person for 'yelling' when they get their toes stamped on with an anvil. Perhaps people in America should find the 'root' of the problem and stop accusing each other.
These are the reasons i've recently decided i will not have a mixed race child, ever. It is they ( children) who suffer the most and none of us can really grasp the magnitude of it all. Growing up is hard enough being whatever kind of child and this kind of sick society, only makes them breed resentment and hate towards each other.Trivializing racism is probaby the most ignorant thing to do. YES, it exists and won't go away any time soon.

Not talking about you KHD100, by the way. Just a general comment inspired by the story.

Nice post.


But if we mix the races then eventualy there will only be one race. If there is only one race then raceism would be eliminated and we can hate the true evil, left handed people.


Dennis
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lorax111
richmond, Virginia USA
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 7:24 AM CST
TheEnglishman wrote:
I am most sorry to disagree so strongly.
I realise your Swiss and maybe your command of the English language is not that good.

Please read a 1970 edition of the Oxford dictionary,,(no other will do as it is the bible of our language) and read carefully what it say's about "Racism".

Your view,,"one side denying the other the right to live",,,is quite another matter.

Understand this about your words,,,these words are banded about everywhere and have been for 25 years ,,the words that have been carefully crafted by politicians and the politicians right arm,,the MEDIA to fool us all,,,that it is our fault,,,we the people,,we are the barbarians,,the haters,,the ignorant.

Look at the hater's,,,have you actually met,,(come into personal contact with) more than 4 people,,in your life,,that you know,,HATE,,,LOATHE,,DISPISE,,others because of skin colour or where they come from.

If everyone is to believe your words,,,"one side denying the other ,,THE RIGHT To LIVE".
Then we must look at,,,America vs Vietnam,,,America & Britain vs Iraq.
China vs Tibet,,Russia vs Chetchnia,,the list is endless.
But then,,,what do you say?,,what words do use?,,when civil unrest erupts,,,the best example,,Korea vs Korea.
What is the difference between that war,,hot or cold,,and Vietnam...NONE is the unfortunate answer.
What you now have to define from all of that history,,,and all of that conflict,,,is this..
WERE THESE WARS/CONFLICTS,, "RACISIST" BY DEFINITION?,,,"THAT THEY WERE DENIED THE RIGHT TO LIVE,,OR LIVE HOW THEY WANTED TO."

Tricky stuff is'nt it?
Its tricky,,,because it has become muddled by the "political correct brigade",,who as usual have'nt the brains to see what their actions can cause further along in time AND WE the people desperatly try to understand their bullshit,,we try to unravel it,,,as if it were alchemy.

Look at these posts,,,all of them,,how can so much,,such variety,,come from one simple,,and simply defined word,,,unless it has been made to be more than what it is....(take a while to work out,,took me 15 years.)

Racism,,is a word that is banded about to remind us all,,,constantly,,that it exists,That it is real,,,and it won't go away,,so when the day comes,,it can be used,,for us,,or more probaly,,against us,,,like giving a child a load machine gun.
(See the future for more details.)


I'm glad for you to have lived such a sheltered life.


Dennis
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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 7:24 AM CST
lorax111 wrote:
But if we mix the races then eventualy there will only be one race. If there is only one race then raceism would be eliminated and we can hate the true evil, left handed people.Dennis


No way! laugh
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 2:35 PM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
I get that, still, what is wrong with my history?????


Hi, nothing is wrong with your History. I misread the post. I was refering to Chris in all this. I did post what I have learned in my Anthro Studies and it was ALL in response to Chris. I am dyslexic and I misread the part about the claws. I thought the claws and education was all towards Chris

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Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 3:46 PM CST
I am sure your experience with such ignorance made you bitter towards those people who have wronged you, but did you forgive them?

Actually, I am not bitter. I can see how I would come accross that way in the post. I was drawing on my experience to show that the discrimination you SEEMED to be supporting, was not a pleasant experience. Also, I forgave them years ago. I don't dwell on any of my experiences, but I do acknowlege them and use them to try and enlighten people when they really have no concept of how discrimination is not limited to race.


I also wish to let you know, my ex-fiance of 12 yrs is of black/ American Indian(Black Foot), and White ancestory. Six of his great grand parents were white, one was black and one was American Indian,(recall for any whom do not remember, you have 8 Great Grand Parents total). He is classified as Black as are his siblings and cousins.


He inherited the Black traits while many of his siblings and cousins did not. He has diabetes and was in and out of the hospital for many years(~10yrs). He was turned down for disablity for ~ 7 of those years. Last year he finally got approved for SSI after ~4+ years legal appeal. The judge only approved it back to 5 years b/c he had tried to work for !.5 yrs before the 5 years that were approved.


But he Lectured Social Security that he should have been approved 7yrs ago based on his hospitalizations alone. The judge further went on to say that, the premise of young men, regardless of race, only the fact that they are in their 30s or 40s being considered workable even though they are not, was contributing to a system of extreme poverty. I suspect this is why you have had trouble.


I am being pursicuted be most of you, because my opinions differ from yours, even if they are totally wrong, only one of you really took the time to enlighten me on history, the rest were attacks on me, or at least that is what I percieved them to be.

I'm not sure if you are refering to me on the enlightenment or one of the professional Anthropologists. I did try to share what I learned in my Anthro Curriculum, as it is one of my minors in school.


I appologize for being one of the ones to attack you. You worded it very well as if you meant it to be believed that you were an extreme racist. So please forgive me.


Do you understand now about the difference between the two? This experiment was to show just how one persons believes could lead to hate and pursicution, because they do not coenside with the majorities believes.

You really opened yourself up to a lot of persecution for an experiment.


My conclusion is that because I stated things about African culture, that are probably for the most part false, then stated I was a racist on top of it. I was ganged up on by everyone who felt my opinion had offended them in some way, shape or form, then made sutle attacks against my character to entice an emotional response, while others simply patted themselves on the back by agreeing.

So true.

No one had the courge to try to agree with me or tried to understand my point of view. I guess it's easier to put someone down then it is to stand at their level and make a argument on a civilized level.[/quote]


Again, the way you worded your posts made it difficult to do any of this and again, I am sorry for my part in attacking you.sad flower sad flower sad flower
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lorax111
richmond, Virginia USA
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 8:16 PM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
No way!


Ok then righties (the bastards! everyone knows left is right and someday all that will be left will be lefties, and left will truely be rite).



Dennis ( armadextrious myself)
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