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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 12:32 PM CST
crotalus_p wrote:
No I am just pointing out what is written in black and white , however if you think that it is taken out of context feel free to explain The bad kind
Your sound like your getting ready to make a load of excuses


Do explain ??


I must say you are not too compelling on the persuasion or argument front.. I think even if I was an Athiest Mike HD would have converted me to Christianity long before you would have suceeded in affirming my views...

Apart from quoting other sources.. what concrete or indeed even vaguely convincing theories.. scientific or philosophical or otherwise can you contribute confused





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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 12:38 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
but how does something unstraight (if I may use that term) perform straightness (if I may use that term) on his followers

this gawd could only (if he used terms at all) say ... "be unstraight like me".. to say "be straight like me" would be a contradiction, indeed a non sequitur of his own unstraightedness.

hence unstraightedness is the way of gawd.


:doing my best not to snicker:


That seems like an awfully roundabout way of calling God "gay," Al.confused dunno I hope you're not suggesting we start a thread on His omnipotent Gayness or something....?D'oh!





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crotalus_p
Rush , Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 12:43 PM CST
Aries01 wrote:
I must say you are not too compelling on the persuasion or argument front..


Nither are you my dear





Aries01 wrote:
Apart from quoting other sources.. what concrete or indeed even vaguely convincing theories.. scientific or philosophical or otherwise can you contribute



What theories to prove a negative ?? The burden of proof is with you my dear professor





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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 12:44 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
That seems like an awfully roundabout way of calling God "gay," Al. I hope you're not suggesting we start a thread on His omnipotent Gayness or something....?


rolling on the floor laughing

his omni-impotency is largely a question of theorists.laugh

though my guess is that he/she is somewhat androgenous, a more efficient way of dealing with the subtleties of nature. and we must expect ( if we are to have expectations at all) him/her to be efficient yes?

confused yay





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jimbhoy
In Glasgow, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 12:45 PM CST
I believe there is a "GOD" but i cant stand any form of organised religion.. i pray to god when it suits me and he listens when it suits him/her.


Why is it that Priests,Preachers can tell you all about "hell" but tell you nothing about "heaven" except to say you'll sing with the angels etc...
I hope God lives in hell cos its a hell of a lot more fun there and its always warm





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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 12:49 PM CST
Aries01 wrote:
The new testament explains the thinking and when Jesus came along, the old testament obligations (as mentioned above) were no longer required


Hi, Hon!hug wave

Could you point me to that explanation (I'm thinking of what Jesus himself is supposed to have said, rather than the latter Pauline interpretations)? All I'm aware of Jesus saying is (to paraphrase) that he was not there to rebut the old prophets or to change even one "jot and tissel" of their words (I believe I'm recalling those words correctly).

"The Scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35).







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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 12:52 PM CST
crotalus_p wrote:
Nither are you my dear What theories to prove a negative ?? The burden of proof is with you my dear


its only a 'burden' when you expect others to use 'only' the tools of logic, soley because you are the one acccustomed to using them.

perhaps there are other tools? dunno





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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 12:52 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
his omni-potency is largely a question of theorists.

though my guess is that he/she is somewhat androgenous, a more efficient way of dealing with the subtleties of nature. and we must expect ( if we are to have expectations at all) him/her to be efficient yes?


Androgynous...whew - for a moment there I thought you were going to suggest She was a Lesbian...

This theological stuff can be awfully conundrumous (?) at times...wow!





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MikeHD
Dallas, Texas USA
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 12:53 PM CST
crotalus_p wrote:
No I am just pointing out what is written in black and white , however if you think that it is taken out of context feel free to explain The bad kind
Your sound like your getting ready to make a load of excuses


Do explain ??


Awwwww...

It's OK Crotalus. I will not try to embarrass you here.

Since your strategy seems to be arguing against something before you even hear it, I will not waste your time. Your mind is already made up.

I know you think you have hear it all, but we all know that hearing is not the same as listening.

To listen is not the same as being convinced. You don't have to be afraid to listen. It really won't hurt you. And by listening you can develop a more creative answer. Bnatural listens. I know he mostly listens to tear my argument to pieces, but he listens. And in doing so, he is so much fun to debate.

So I can only leave you with this...

"Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, 'for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.' "Abraham said to him, 'They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.' "And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' "But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.'" Luke 16: 27-31 (sorry if my misplaced quotation marks are confusing, still studying the english language)

Bnatural loves when I quote the Bible.


rolling on the floor laughing





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Gaba1956
Slidell, Louisiana USA
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 12:55 PM CST
One God, eternally existent in three Divine Persons: Father, Son & Holy Spirit





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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 12:59 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
Androgynous...whew - for a moment there I thought you were going to suggest She was a Lesbian...

This theological stuff can be awfully amazingly conundrumous (?) at times...


innocent I agree... except that you're speaking of him/her in the past tense (was) and reasonable offerings of gawd include that he/she is omnipresent and so much more than just past tense. scold


thanks for the correct speeling of androgynous D'oh! cheers oh and the lesbian image devil


peace





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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 1:08 PM CST
MikeHD wrote:

To listen is not the same as being convinced. You don't have to be afraid to listen. It really won't hurt you. And by listening you can develop a more creative answer. Bnatural listens. I know he mostly listens to tear my argument to pieces, but he listens. And in doing so, he is so much fun to debate.


me thinks you're guilding my lilly giggle FTR.. your arguements generally come to me in pieces Mike rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing .. no more blaming me scold wave

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So I can only leave you with this...

"Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, 'for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.' "Abraham said to him, 'They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.' "And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' "But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.' " Luke 16: 27-31 (sorry if my misplaced quotation marks are confusing, still studying the english language)

Bnatural loves when I quote the Bible.


mumbling
You're one of the least linear 'guys' I know of Mike, unitl it comes to popping verses on the table. And even that wouldnt be so bad, but I am often expecting your home made recipies, only to be confronted with dishes served long ago.

wine





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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 1:10 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
Hi, Hon!

Could you point me to that explanation (I'm thinking of what Jesus himself is supposed to have said, rather than the latter Pauline interpretations)? All I'm aware of Jesus saying is (to paraphrase) that he was not there to rebut the old prophets or to change even one "jot and tissel" of their words (I believe I'm recalling those words correctly).

"The Scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35).


Everything that happened was meant to happen and everything that will happen is equally a part of Gods overall plan... so I am not saying that Jesus was saying that previous rules etc were all wrong.. they were right for the time and the context that they were in.. just that the Coming of Jesus.. marked a new era a new beginning so to speak... am in the middle of studying so hope can give a better answer later

wave hug





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crotalus_p
Rush , Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 1:14 PM CST
MikeHD wrote:
Awwwww...
It's OK Crotalus. I will not try to embarrass you here.
.

Trust me you did not



MikeHD wrote:
To listen is not the same as being convinced. You don't have to be afraid to listen. It really won't hurt you. And by listening you can develop a more creative answer. Bnatural listens. I know he mostly listens to tear my argument to pieces, but he listens. And in doing so, he is so much fun to debate..


What a freaken cop out

rolling eyes





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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 1:16 PM CST
crotalus_p wrote:
Nither are you my dear What theories to prove a negative ?? The burden of proof is with you my dear


Simply being condecending to posters does not make you a convincing advocate for the cause of substantiating the origins of your beliefs (or lack thereof)... as I said if I were an Athiest or on the fence not knowing what way to go.. I would have jumped over to the HD side of the fence.. purely because he appears to have some thoughts of his own, and he presents some convincing points.. while it may not be your task to 'prove' the existence of God 'technically'.. for the purpose purely of debate do you have anything at all??? to bring to the table apart from condecending remarks...





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MikeHD
Dallas, Texas USA
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 1:18 PM CST
crotalus_p wrote:
Trust me you did not


What a freaken cop out


Poor Crotalus...

didn't get what he wanted for Christmas. rolling on the floor laughing





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MikeHD
Dallas, Texas USA
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 1:19 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
me thinks you're guilding my lilly FTR.. your arguements generally come to me in pieces Mike .. no more blaming me

You're one of the least linear 'guys' I know of Mike, unitl it comes to popping verses on the table. And even that wouldnt be so bad, but I am often expecting your home made recipies , only to be confronted with dishes served long ago.





What? dunno





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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 1:27 PM CST
hmmm You people are still playing some chess huhlaugh

I'll have to sit this one out. It's my last full day here at home, and I have a whole lot lined up on my agenda...but I will be going to the bookstore in the mall....going straight to the metaphysics section...





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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 1:30 PM CST
MikeHD wrote:
What?dunno


rolling eyes
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your arguements generally come to me in pieces


you said that I listen, to take your arguements to pieces,... I said no they come to me from you already in pieces.

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You're one of the least linear 'guys' I know of Mike


'linear' is thinking in logical steps, something scientists generally do.

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I am often expecting your home made recipies , only to be confronted with dishes served long ago.


I like to hear what you have to say rather than bible verses that seem old and stale to me.

capice?

smoking





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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 23, 2008, 1:31 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
You people are still playing some chess huh

I'll have to sit this one out. It's my last full day here at home, and I have a whole lot lined up on my agenda...but I will be going to the bookstore in the mall....going straight to the metaphysics section...


I have a Zen question for you, Stressless: When you went to SF, did you wear a flower in your hair?rose





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