how many gods are there ? what does a god really do ? and what people do god or gods really like ?

BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 8:37 AM CST

Maybe there is, maybe there isn't.

All I know is some folks are going to look real dumb for sticking a belief on their forehead and professing it aloud. Then again humans don't seem to mind appearing dumb.

Could be zillions of gods, could be none, could gods named gilly even, the possibilities are endless. Holding a belief is a rather narrow view, that defies the infinite possibility of creation. (tinfoil optional) Whether yoiu believe there is or there isn't gods, taking a stand either doesn't stand the test of time.

So, I dont know what's out there, and that's about as smart as I can be on the matter.

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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 2:52 PM CST

REQUEST NOTED GILLY.... though do please take note.. if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.... if you ask a question.. don't shoot the messanger

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crotalus_p
Rush , Dublin Ireland

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 3:04 PM CST

Aries01 wrote:

REQUEST NOTED GILLY.... though do please take note.. if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.... if you ask a question.. don't shoot the messanger

Whilst I tend to disagree with you I hope that you will continue to express your views as they are yours and not only are you entitled to express them the fact that you do so is greatly appreciated

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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 3:08 PM CST

crotalus_p wrote:

Really tell me who created god ??

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a God superior to themselves. Most Gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child. - Robert A Heinlein
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. - Gene Roddenberry

No it is not there is no god of any where And here is a hint the Christian faith clearly states that there is only one god not one god per Solar System but one god full stop

What's your point ??
That is just bare faced bull to make your self feel better
It's a shame you don’t rely on evidence

No it could not what can explain it is psychology

Do give examples or more importantly examples of prophecy’s being fulfilled
That is the only sensible thing you have said in the entire post

Apart from listing quotes from other sources and knocking my (personal) views.. do you ever ACTUALLY have anything to contribute.. OK..so you don't believe in God... cool... your entitlement... maybe someday you will actually express your own views which do not rely on knocking other peoples

I responded to the question in accordance with my own thoughts and ideas on the subject as I am entitled to do..

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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 3:10 PM CST

crotalus_p wrote:

Whilst I tend to disagree with you I hope that you will continue to express your views as they are yours and not only are you entitled to express them the fact that you do so is greatly appreciated

... ooops.. got kind of annoyed with you to.. better get out of the forums for a while

.. obviously getting to me today

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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 3:20 PM CST

Aries01 wrote:

... ooops.. got kind of annoyed with you to.. better get out of the forums for a while .. obviously getting to me today

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crotalus_p
Rush , Dublin Ireland

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 3:30 PM CST

Aries01 wrote:

... ooops.. got kind of annoyed with you to..

My dear not only is that understandable it is your prerogative

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gillyloves69
london, Outer London, England UK

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 3:30 PM CST

Aries01 wrote:

REQUEST NOTED GILLY.... though do please take note.. if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.... if you ask a question.. don't shoot the messanger

there you go lying again !..but it no longer matters !

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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 3:36 PM CST

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eve1woman
dublin, Dublin Ireland

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 4:21 PM CST

BnaturAl wrote:

Maybe there is, maybe there isn't.

All I know is some folks are going to look real dumb for sticking a belief on their forehead and professing it aloud. Then again humans don't seem to mind appearing dumb.

Could be zillions of gods, could be none, could gods named gilly even, the possibilities are endless. Holding a belief is a rather narrow view, that defies the infinite possibility of creation. (tinfoil optional) Whether yoiu believe there is or there isn't gods, taking a stand either doesn't stand the test of time.

So, I dont know what's out there, and that's about as smart as I can be on the matter.

Hi to all CS'rs

No offence meant here.
Basically I don't spend much time worrying about looking dumb. I am dumb some of the time anyway and it doesn't bother me in the slightest bit. I love to laugh at myself and my humanness. I am human and have not got all the answers and cannot see or know what is out there off this planet. I do my own thing and what works for me, what brings me some peace, joy and happiness is cool with me.....I don't know how or why but I do really and truly believe in a loving, caring and all wisdom God (energy).
I don't really worry too much about what other people believe and don't believe. What ever gets them through the night as long as they are not hurting another human being is alright by me......

I believe............."love is all I need" and everything falls into place after that ........

Btw I didn't read all the posts.

I am quite saddened at the moment. Only heard a few short hours ago that a very special person whom I had only just meet last week (and who had made a huge impression on me ) died on Friday after being released from the hospital on Thursday.....He was saying he didn't feel too good but was not going to say anything in case they decided not to release him. He had had 37 treatments for cancer over the space of 7 weeks and was looking forward to going home and not having to return to the hospital after the weekend. He was looking so so well. He was 58yrs old and was a wonderful and special human being.....Heart attack.

Sorry for going off on a tangent....I'm just am so shocked.

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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 4:29 PM CST

eve1woman wrote:

Hi to all CS'rs

No offence meant here.
Basically I don't spend much time worrying about looking dumb. I am dumb some of the time anyway and it doesn't bother me in the slightest bit. I love to laugh at myself and my humanness. I am human and have not got all the answers and cannot see or know what is out there off this planet. I do my own thing and what works for me, what brings me some peace, joy and happiness is cool with me.....I don't know how or why but I do really and truly believe in a loving, caring and all wisdom God (energy).
I don't really worry too much about what other people believe and don't believe. What ever gets them through the night as long as they are not hurting another human being is alright by me......

I believe............."love is all I need" and everything falls into place after that ........

Btw I didn't read all the posts.

I am quite saddened at the moment. Only heard a few short hours ago that a very special person whom I had only just meet last week (and who had made a huge impression on me ) died on Friday after being released from the hospital on Thursday.....He was saying he didn't feel too good but was not going to say anything in case they decided not to release him. He had had 37 treatments for cancer over the space of 7 weeks and was looking forward to going home and not having to return to the hospital after the weekend. He was looking so so well. He was 58yrs old and was a wonderful and special human being.....Heart attack.

Sorry for going off on a tangent....I'm just am so shocked.

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eve1woman
dublin, Dublin Ireland

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 4:42 PM CST

Thank you, I feel so blessed to have meet such a lovely lovely guy....
I remember him with fondness forever...

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charlos
Phoenix, Arizona USA

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 7:54 PM CST

Hey Gilly, you love these questions, do you ?

From me you will always get the same answer: There is nod god !

All scientific evidence shows that god is imaginary. So does all historical evidence. This leads any rational person to conclude that Christian beliefs are pure mythology. Christianity is just like every other mythology that mankind has dreamed up through the ages.

I guess you are familiar with "Occam's razor" ?

It was based on "William of Occam" and says: "Non est ponenda pluralites sive necessitate" or in english: "Do not multiply entities unless necessarily". It is a principle for scientific labour which means that one should use a simple explanation with a few explanatory premises before a more complex one.

Let's just say that everything must be created, and that was done by an omnipotent god. A god which stands above time, space, moral and existence, which is self containing and in it self has it's own cause. This entity can surely be replaced by the known world. The world stands above time, space, moral, existence, is self containing and in it has it's own meaning. Most theists agree that god has a nature. Then we must raise the question, who created god's nature? If we just accept that god has a nature and exists without a cause, why not say that the known world just is and that the laws of physics are what they are, without a cause?

God is not really an explanation, only a non-explanation !

It is impossible to gain information from non-information so god as an explanation is a dead end. When we have said that the reason for something is that 'god did it that way' there is no way to understand it any further. We just shrug our shoulders and accept things as they are. To explain the unknown by god is only to explain how it happened, not why. If we are to investigate the world and build our views of life from the world, we cannot assume a god. Because adding god as an explanation leaves as many, if not more questions than it explains, god has to be removed with Occam's razor if we are serious in investigating the world.

So god really is just a myth.....and maybe some kind of a psychological calmative.

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gillyloves69
london, Outer London, England UK

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 8:07 PM CST

laugh as much as you want ..but just go away and stop telling lies about me please !

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gillyloves69
london, Outer London, England UK

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 8:11 PM CST

charlos wrote:

Hey Gilly, you love these questions, do you ?

From me you will always get the same answer: There is nod god !

All scientific evidence shows that god is imaginary. So does all historical evidence. This leads any rational person to conclude that Christian beliefs are pure mythology. Christianity is just like every other mythology that mankind has dreamed up through the ages.

I guess you are familiar with "Occam's razor" ?

It was based on "William of Occam" and says: "Non est ponenda pluralites sive necessitate" or in english: "Do not multiply entities unless necessarily". It is a principle for scientific labour which means that one should use a simple explanation with a few explanatory premises before a more complex one.

Let's just say that everything must be created, and that was done by an omnipotent god. A god which stands above time, space, moral and existence, which is self containing and in it self has it's own cause. This entity can surely be replaced by the known world. The world stands above time, space, moral, existence, is self containing and in it has it's own meaning. Most theists agree that god has a nature. Then we must raise the question, who created god's nature? If we just accept that god has a nature and exists without a cause, why not say that the known world just is and that the laws of physics are what they are, without a cause?

God is not really an explanation, only a non-explanation !

It is impossible to gain information from non-information so god as an explanation is a dead end. When we have said that the reason for something is that 'god did it that way' there is no way to understand it any further. We just shrug our shoulders and accept things as they are. To explain the unknown by god is only to explain how it happened, not why. If we are to investigate the world and build our views of life from the world, we cannot assume a god. Because adding god as an explanation leaves as many, if not more questions than it explains, god has to be removed with Occam's razor if we are serious in investigating the world.

So god really is just a myth.....and maybe some kind of a psychological calmative.

welcome to the thread chartlos !

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CjTenorSax
Atwater, Ohio USA

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 8:15 PM CST

eve1woman wrote:

Hi to all CS'rs

No offence meant here.
Basically I don't spend much time worrying about looking dumb. I am dumb some of the time anyway and it doesn't bother me in the slightest bit. I love to laugh at myself and my humanness. I am human and have not got all the answers and cannot see or know what is out there off this planet. I do my own thing and what works for me, what brings me some peace, joy and happiness is cool with me.....I don't know how or why but I do really and truly believe in a loving, caring and all wisdom God (energy).
I don't really worry too much about what other people believe and don't believe. What ever gets them through the night as long as they are not hurting another human being is alright by me......

I believe............."love is all I need" and everything falls into place after that ........

Btw I didn't read all the posts.

I am quite saddened at the moment. Only heard a few short hours ago that a very special person whom I had only just meet last week (and who had made a huge impression on me ) died on Friday after being released from the hospital on Thursday.....He was saying he didn't feel too good but was not going to say anything in case they decided not to release him. He had had 37 treatments for cancer over the space of 7 weeks and was looking forward to going home and not having to return to the hospital after the weekend. He was looking so so well. He was 58yrs old and was a wonderful and special human being.....Heart attack.

Sorry for going off on a tangent....I'm just am so shocked.

So Sorry for your loss.

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gillyloves69
london, Outer London, England UK

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 8:16 PM CST

laugh as much as you want ..but just go away and stop telling lies about me please !

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CjTenorSax
Atwater, Ohio USA

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 8:24 PM CST

charlos wrote:

Hey Gilly, you love these questions, do you ?

From me you will always get the same answer: There is nod god !

All scientific evidence shows that god is imaginary. So does all historical evidence. This leads any rational person to conclude that Christian beliefs are pure mythology. Christianity is just like every other mythology that mankind has dreamed up through the ages.

I guess you are familiar with "Occam's razor" ?

It was based on "William of Occam" and says: "Non est ponenda pluralites sive necessitate" or in english: "Do not multiply entities unless necessarily". It is a principle for scientific labour which means that one should use a simple explanation with a few explanatory premises before a more complex one.

Let's just say that everything must be created, and that was done by an omnipotent god. A god which stands above time, space, moral and existence, which is self containing and in it self has it's own cause. This entity can surely be replaced by the known world. The world stands above time, space, moral, existence, is self containing and in it has it's own meaning. Most theists agree that god has a nature. Then we must raise the question, who created god's nature? If we just accept that god has a nature and exists without a cause, why not say that the known world just is and that the laws of physics are what they are, without a cause?

God is not really an explanation, only a non-explanation !

It is impossible to gain information from non-information so god as an explanation is a dead end. When we have said that the reason for something is that 'god did it that way' there is no way to understand it any further. We just shrug our shoulders and accept things as they are. To explain the unknown by god is only to explain how it happened, not why. If we are to investigate the world and build our views of life from the world, we cannot assume a god. Because adding god as an explanation leaves as many, if not more questions than it explains, god has to be removed with Occam's razor if we are serious in investigating the world.

So god really is just a myth.....and maybe some kind of a psychological calmative.

Sorry, I was raised the opposite and have read much in science that proves the stories of many religions. Nearly all religions have some form of the Flood in their written books as well as other stories. Science has proven that there was a great flood that occurred early in the Earth's timeline. This is from the study of the rock formations through out the world. The dating of the rocks, has been established to be in what was Biblical times.

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charlos
Phoenix, Arizona USA

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 9:24 PM CST

Well, how did you find out how I was raised ?

It was in fact very religious....only that I started thinking for myself later on and with information and analytical intelligence god just disappears.

Science has never proved any religious story, how "the hell" could it ? These are tales invented by mankind, nothing else !

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Katine76again
Moncton, New Brunswick Canada

Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 9:38 PM CST

As much as I am a Catholic, I have to say that I do not really believe in my religion and am not religious at all. I am more a spiritual person than anything else. I am doing some researches on Buddhism as so far that seems to be only thing that really interests me. Other religions just confuse me and I am not sure what I believe in to be honest.

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