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this has been a contant ebb and flow on people's belief or unbelief in God.

hmm, there are many gods. those things that people worship, spend so much time on? i.e, money, pleasure, success, etc. etc. yep, they're gods.

im not going to go through all the melodrama by saying hey people, there is a God, get over it.


all of us are entitled to our own opinions.

i have my God to believe in...others have theirs.

'thing is nobody can really force someone to believe in my God and nobody can make me believe in their gods or not believe in any god, for that matter.

one other thing, it takes faith and not proof to believe God.







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It takes faith to believe in god ?

Naa, it just requires certain level of stupidity.





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opinion well taken...your point anyway.





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What about mother nature, forces of nature.... but not as a god but as something bigger than us?

I'm not asking in any religious context btw... just if he believes in the forces of nature, mother nature or what ever you want to call it being bigger than us?





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We are part of "mother nature", thats simply a fact, no need to construct more out of it.

People who have high IQs are less likely to believe in god than people of average and below average intelligence, according to Richard Lynn, emeritus professor of psychology at Ireland's University of Ulster. Lynn claims that the general decline in religious observance over the last century is directly related to a rise in average intelligence and education. The smarter we are the more likely we are to shun religious services.

Lynn and his two co-authors argue that average IQ is an excellent predictor of what proportion of the population are true believers, across 137 countries. They also cite surveys of the US Academy of Sciences and UK Royal Academy showing only single-digit rates of religious belief among academics.

That professional skeptics don't believe in a creator is perhaps not all that surprising. Lynn argues, however, that it is their intelligence that directly gives rise to the boffinated classes' non-god-bothering tendencies. He said: "Why should fewer academics believe in god than the general population? I believe it is simply a matter of the IQ. Academics have higher IQs than the general population."







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Not true at all I have an IQ in the 130's and genius runs in my family (both sides) and we are all at the very least believe in God.. rubbish.. Einstein among other scientific luminaries also believed in God.... plucking meaningless statistics from sources who are intent of disproving God or justifying their belief is not what I would call reliable to say the least.. Just sayin...







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Also the decline in faith is most likely to be linked to the huge scandals that have plagued the Church e.g. Paeodophilia and the level of wealth that they possess in contract with the devastating poverty that exists in the world... corruption in the church and hypocracy is contemplated in the Bible and firmly rebuked..

The actions of these 'men' has nothing to do with God, its just that unfortunately a Church built solely on Stone cannot resist penetration by evil sources.. the gradual increase in Power and Ego amongst Church leaders has led to a literal 'rotting at the core' of the Churches they represent... again not God's fault.. free will unfortunately is something which he has expressly given us.. we (as human beings) make our own choices..

It it this gradual decline of Institutional Religion that has led to a gradual decrease in believers.. at the same time however more people cite themselves as 'spiritual, not religious'.. this is a good place to be because it is a place of searching..

Also look at tables relating to breakdown of the various Religions (most of which are 'God' based) you will find that the VAST majority of people in the world believe in God.. statistically given the likely spread of intelligence (based on the law of averages) your argument just simply does not stand...


Major religious groups as a percentage of the world population in 2005 (Encyclopaedia Britannica). In summary, religious adherence of the world's population is as follows: "Abrahamic": 53.5%, "Indian": 19.7%, irreligious: 14.3%, "Far Eastern": 6.5%, tribal religions: 4.0%, new religious movements: 2.0%.

According to these figures potentially an upwards figure of 27% are not God based.. what are the statistical chances that the remaining 73% of the population (who are God and/or Gods based)all have a substandard IQ ?





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Just for clarification 2.3% of the population are 'athiest'





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Well hold on that would make 102.3% your figures are wrong even if they where not wrong who say’s how many from what religion ?? At the end of the day most religions claim any one that is initiated into their church until the day they die





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I believe in God. As far as myself personally I'd be foolish not to.





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There's one God. The one that raised Jesus from the dead.

God bless!
Lance





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Thats just a lie

This is a perfect example of how people are grasping at straws , there where many major floods threw out history this proves nothing Expect people blame what they do not under stand on god’s People used to say (and some still do) that lightning was Thor throwing lighting bolts are you telling me that every time lightning strike’s it proves Thor existence ??

and by the way what time line would that be?? Because it sounds like your about to spew out creationism crap about the world being about 7 thousand year’s old





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and that gives life to those things that are not :)

God bless!





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That's not enitrely true. There are many, many ancient accounts, not in one area, but actually worldwide of a giant flood in which many include one man and his family being saved/spared.

The only difference is the fact of whom they give the credit to. But that varies even in today's society. You have some that would say that Allah is the one true god, where as others would say that it is the devil, or the kingdom of darkness working its magic.

What you believe is what you believe, and I assume you are going to fight it to death, or you wouldn't really believe it at all, right? :)

Take care,
Lance





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and God bless all! haha :) Good night!





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Hiya.. can you prove ur assertion that what was said was a lie?.... mention of 'Thor' doesn't really prove anything... Early God's and religions were based mainly on instinct, due to societies limited understanding, it was not until later with the incidence of various Prophets that understanding grew...

If you read the Bible you can see that the various Prophesies tie in and are consistent... despite the various Prophets living centuries apart and often coming from vastly different locations... I have only begun to read the Bible and it is a most illuminating and facinating document....particularly the words of prophets.. JMV





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I think you already know that for clarification I took that figure from the aforementioned statistic... 102.3%... coincidence.. no??







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So did a number of serial killer’s what’s your point ?? See it’ easy to pluck out anomalies and point at them isn’t it ?



That is nothing more than a blatant and bare faced lie designed to make your self feel better ,




Albert Einstein
[1879-1955] German born American threoretical physicist
From a correspondence between Ensign Guy H. Raner and Albert Einstein in 1945 and 1949. Einstein responds to the accusation that he was converted by a Jesuit priest: "I have never talked to a Jesuit prest in my life. I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist." "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one.You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from religious indoctrination received in youth." Freethought Today, November 2004

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." From a letter Einstein wrote in English, dated 24 March 1954. It is included in Albert Einstein: The

From a letter Einstein wrote in English, dated 24 March 1954. It is included in Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, published by Princeton University Press. Albert Einstein, Out of My Later Years (New York: Philosophical Library, 1950), p. 27.

"During the youthful period of mankind's spiritual evolution, human fantasy created gods in man's own image who, by the operations of their will were supposed to determine, or at any rate influence, the phenomenal world... The idea of God in the religions taught at present is a sublimation of that old conception of the gods. Its anthropomorphic character is shown, for instance, by the fact that men appeal to the Divine Being in prayers and plead for the fulfillment of their wishes... In their struggle for the ethical good, teachers of religion must have the stature to give up the doctrine of a personal God, that is, give up that source of fear and hope which in the past placed such vase power in the hands of priests." Albert Einstein, reported in Science, Philosophy and Religion: A Symposium, edited by L. Bryson and

"Thus I came...to a deep religiosity, which, however, reached an abrupt end at the age of 12. Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached a conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true....Suspicion against every kind of authority grew out of this experience...an attitude which has never left me." The Quotable Einstein

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."

Did Einstein among other scientific luminaries believe in God ?? and pleas do name the "other scientific luminaries"








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