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If you read the Bible you can see that the various Prophesies tie in and are consistent... despite the various Prophets living centuries apart and often coming from vastly different locations... I have only begun to read the Bible and it is a most illuminating and facinating document....particularly the words of prophets.. JMV

All scientific evidence shows that god is imaginary.
So god really is just a myth.....and maybe some kind of a psychological calmative.

And the Source (God) is not responsible for any good or bad on our planet. That job belongs to us spiritual beings on an earthly journey. We create and manifest cause in a sense, we are all Gods with a free will. So that is why it is vital to know/love/understand yourself so you can do the same with others, and the only way to happiness or heaven (state of mind) is through yourself (God as many religous people would tell ya)...trust me, this is what I have experienced and observed. If you believe in yourself, then in a sense you believe in God.

this has been a contant ebb and flow on people's belief or unbelief in God.

hmm, there are many gods. those things that people worship, spend so much time on? i.e, money, pleasure, success, etc. etc. yep, they're gods.

im not going to go through all the melodrama by saying hey people, there is a God, get over it.


all of us are entitled to our own opinions.

i have my God to believe in...others have theirs.

'thing is nobody can really force someone to believe in my God and nobody can make me believe in their gods or not believe in any god, for that matter.

one other thing, it takes faith and not proof to believe God.

That's not enitrely true. There are many, many ancient accounts, not in one area, but actually worldwide of a giant flood in which many include one man and his family being saved/spared.

The only difference is the fact of whom they give the credit to. But that varies even in today's society. You have some that would say that Allah is the one true god, where as others would say that it is the devil, or the kingdom of darkness working its magic.

What you believe is what you believe, and I assume you are going to fight it to death, or you wouldn't really believe it at all, right? :).

Hiya.. can you prove ur assertion that what was said was a lie?

.... mention of 'Thor' doesn't really prove anything... Early God's and religions were based mainly on instinct, due to societies limited understanding, it was not until later with the incidence of various Prophets that understanding grew...

.... I have only begun to read the Bible and it is a most illuminating and facinating document....particularly the words of prophets.. JMV

I think you already know that for clarification I took that figure from the aforementioned statistic... 102.3%... coincidence.. no??

Have a look at my 'Existence of God v Science' thread... it is true that initially he didn't but in his later years he had to concede due to the sheer perfection and majesty of the universe as well as its by its origins that it had to have been created by God....

have to go to work now... will take this up with you later..

Aries
Read Matthew with carefully get some notes.Read yesua too.Its will be nice.
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Also the decline in faith is most likely to be linked to the huge scandals that have plagued the Church e.g. Paeodophilia and the level of wealth that they possess in contract with the devastating poverty that exists in the world... corruption in the church and hypocracy is contemplated in the Bible and firmly rebuked..

The actions of these 'men' has nothing to do with God, its just that unfortunately a Church built solely on Stone cannot resist penetration by evil sources.. the gradual increase in Power and Ego amongst Church leaders has led to a literal 'rotting at the core' of the Churches they represent... again not God's fault.. free will unfortunately is something which he has expressly given us.. we (as human beings) make our own choices..

It it this gradual decline of Institutional Religion that has led to a gradual decrease in believers.. at the same time however more people cite themselves as 'spiritual, not religious'.. this is a good place to be because it is a place of searching..

Also look at tables relating to breakdown of the various Religions (most of which are 'God' based) you will find that the VAST majority of people in the world believe in God.. statistically given the likely spread of intelligence (based on the law of averages) your argument just simply does not stand... Major religious groups as a percentage of the world population in 2005 (Encyclopaedia Britannica). In summary, religious adherence of the world's population is as follows: "Abrahamic": 53.5%, "Indian": 19.7%, irreligious: 14.3%, "Far Eastern": 6.5%, tribal religions: 4.0%, new religious movements: 2.0%.

According to these figures potentially an upwards figure of 27% are not God based.. what are the statistical chances that the remaining 73% of the population (who are God and/or Gods based)all have a substandard IQ ?

Hi to all CS'rs

No offence meant here.
Basically I don't spend much time worrying about looking dumb. I am dumb some of the time anyway and it doesn't bother me in the slightest bit. I love to laugh at myself and my humanness. I am human and have not got all the answers and cannot see or know what is out there off this planet. I do my own thing and what works for me, what brings me some peace, joy and happiness is cool with me.....I don't know how or why but I do really and truly believe in a loving, caring and all wisdom God (energy).
I don't really worry too much about what other people believe and don't believe. What ever gets them through the night as long as they are not hurting another human being is alright by me......

I believe............."love is all I need" and everything falls into place after that ........

Btw I didn't read all the posts.

I am quite saddened at the moment. Only heard a few short hours ago that a very special person whom I had only just meet last week (and who had made a huge impression on me ) died on Friday after being released from the hospital on Thursday.....He was saying he didn't feel too good but was not going to say anything in case they decided not to release him. He had had 37 treatments for cancer over the space of 7 weeks and was looking forward to going home and not having to return to the hospital after the weekend. He was looking so so well. He was 58yrs old and was a wonderful and special human being.....Heart attack.

Sorry for going off on a tangent....I'm just am so shocked.

Good grief man... didn't think I would have to spell it out for you .. of course I was referring to a figure which formed part of the overall computation...

So... You believe in Thor then.. and you are completely closed off to the possibility of their being a God... nothing more to be said really.. I leave you to your worship of Thor..