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What constitutes proof of trust?

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gongman
Malaga, Andalucia Spain
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:23 PM CST
The phrase "Do as you would be done by" springs to mind......
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alabamabebe
Banks of the Warrior River, Alabama USA
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:25 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
YOU trusted YOU ... when you learn this ... the goes away, because you become empowered, realizing how much YOU can rely on YOU when life sucks.
YES! That's it exactly! I can trust others, even if they end up hurting me, cause I can trust myself to be strong enough to live through it. Even grow stronger from it. I can rely on me, and can trust me, therefore I can risk trusting others. Thank you Al!

OMG, I just agreed with you again! It must be nearing the end of time! laugh
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:25 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
Very good questions, Ginger.

There's a lot of levels of trust, obviously. For me, the most important issue is *understanding* the person in extreme depth. From that knowledge I don't find it difficult to predict my mate's behavior in the important ways.

Trust is ultimately about having great confidence that you know what your lover/friend is going to do, no?


That's what I have always thought, but it let me down this time.wave
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roseofsharon
Buggered if I know where...?!!, Hampshire, England UK
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:26 PM CST
bodleing wrote:
Yes, i think its called evolution.


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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:27 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
YOU trusted YOU ... when you learn this ... the goes away, because you become empowered, realizing how much YOU can rely on YOU when life sucks.


I'm trying to avoid the life sucking first phase..............uh oh!
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Xtabentun
Ontario, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:27 PM CST
alabamabebe wrote:
YES! That's it exactly! I can trust others, even if they end up hurting me, cause I can trust myself to be strong enough to live through it. Even grow stronger from it. I can rely on me, and can trust me, therefore I can risk trusting others. Thank you Al!

OMG, I just agreed with you again! It must be nearing the end of time!


Well said thumbs up
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darlynda
new tazewell, Tennessee USA
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:28 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
Many people say that they will not have sex with a new partner or a person that they are dating until they can trust them.

I was wondering, in what ways people gauge another person to be trustworthy?

Is it something they have to do?

Is it something they say?

How does time affect trusting someone?
in my opinion , having sex is a matter of chemistry and need not just trust, i think there are a lot of women out there that have had sex without the benefit of love and trust. i dont want to upset anyone, i am just being honest
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EnSilencio
Almunecar, Andalucia Spain
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:29 PM CST
I did not read through all, since I see trust as a not singular word but needs to be combined with a subject.

Still, when my love is late - I get worried, not suspicious. That is trust.

When I am late, I hurry, because I know she worries, not that she will become suspicious. That is trust.

If too many questions follow an already declared reason, trust is not there.

Did you earn it yet? It is the only way to get it.
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:31 PM CST
gongman wrote:
The phrase "Do as you would be done by" springs to mind......


If a person is being nice and the ther person just hurts you, then doing as you would be done by isn't working very well, because only one person is living it.wine
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gongman
Malaga, Andalucia Spain
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:32 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
If a person is being nice and the ther person just hurts you, then doing as you would be done by isn't working very well, because only one person is living it.


Out of balance.....time to move on.
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alabamabebe
Banks of the Warrior River, Alabama USA
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:34 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
I'm trying to avoid the life sucking first phase..............

No don't do that, you can't avoid it. Life is gonna suck at times. The question is how you deal with it. The more you try to defend against it, the worse it is.

Like getting caught in a briar thicket. The worse you fight it the worse you're gonna get scratched up. Relax and ease your way out of it and you'll be fine, or at least not quite as cut to shreds.

Maybe we can learn to stay out of the briars to a degree, or at least not keep jumping in the same patch, but life is always gonna have new thorns to throw our way. We live and learn and carry our scars, and keep on living till it's over.
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:34 PM CST
darlynda wrote:
in my opinion , having sex is a matter of chemistry and need not just trust, i think there are a lot of women out there that have had sex without the benefit of love and trust. i dont want to upset anyone, i am just being honest


You have a point. Sometimes there doesn't have to be trust but I am talking about when there does need to be trust, then how do you guage it?wave
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:35 PM CST
EnSilencio wrote:
I did not read through all, since I see trust as a not singular word but needs to be combined with a subject.

Still, when my love is late - I get worried, not suspicious. That is trust.

When I am late, I hurry, because I know she worries, not that she will become suspicious. That is trust.

If too many questions follow an already declared reason, trust is not there.

Did you earn it yet? It is the only way to get it.


How did you get to that place though? Did it take time? Was it how much you knew about each other?
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:36 PM CST
alabamabebe wrote:
YES! That's it exactly! I can trust others, even if they end up hurting me, cause I can trust myself to be strong enough to live through it. Even grow stronger from it. I can rely on me, and can trust me, therefore I can risk trusting others. Thank you Al!

OMG, I just agreed with you again! It must be nearing the end of time!


rolling on the floor laughing 2012 uh oh!

once you take your own trust to the level you speak of YOU become empowered instead of being defensive, angry and mistrustful , which really only hurts you, despite some people's intent on spreading it to others.


We fuck up, we dont have crystal balls (no matter how much I try to shine mine rolling on the floor laughing) we take chances and risk because we want the good things. Finding someone who is angry and not in touch with THEIR feelings because you took a chance, should have nothing to do with your power or your trust.


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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:37 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
I'm trying to avoid the life sucking first phase..............


life is always the same, it's where you stand that defines your world. cool
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:38 PM CST
alabamabebe wrote:
No don't do that, you can't avoid it. Life is gonna suck at times. The question is how you deal with it. The more you try to defend against it, the worse it is.

Like getting caught in a briar thicket. The worse you fight it the worse you're gonna get scratched up. Relax and ease your way out of it and you'll be fine, or at least not quite as cut to shreds.

Maybe we can learn to stay out of the briars to a degree, or at least not keep jumping in the same patch, but life is always gonna have new thorns to throw our way. We live and learn and carry our scars, and keep on living till it's over.


You give really sound advice. I suppose I thought that if I could recognise a way to recognise a trustworthy person, then I'd be finding less briars.thumbs up
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:40 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
If a person is being nice and the ther person just hurts you, then doing as you would be done by isn't working very well, because only one person is living it.


this is how it is forever .. alone (married or not) only you are living what you are living.
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darlynda
new tazewell, Tennessee USA
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:42 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
You have a point. Sometimes there doesn't have to be trust but I am talking about when there does need to be trust, then how do you guage it?
if there has to be trust, then it must be over time.....time to know that the person is honest and there are no excess baggage.
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:42 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
2012

once you take your own trust to the level you speak of YOU become empowered instead of being defensive, angry and mistrustful , which really only hurts you, despite some people's intent on spreading it to others.We fuck up, we dont have crystal balls (no matter how much I try to shine mine ) we take chances and risk because we want the good things. Finding someone who is angry and not in touch with THEIR feelings because you took a chance, should have nothing to do with your power or your trust.


I agree with what you are saying and actually lived my life that way, sure I could cope with what life sent me, (and did), trusting my abilities to cope and recover. I still have that. I just ended up questioning my ability to recognise a trustworthy person after this last one. It's difficult having to tell yourself you f**ked up again.
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 5:44 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
life is always the same, it's where you stand that defines your world.


Standing on shaky ground for the first time in my life, in my beliefs in my ability that is.
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