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What constitutes proof of trust?

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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:04 PM CST
EnSilencio wrote:
No, much simpler really. Threw my self out over the cliff and gave trust from day one. Dangerous doing, but if both are realistic over the fact that both probably had a life and history with experience since before, we could at least try it on.

What hurts trust can be mended by love. It is the amplitude of love that decides how severe the breach of trust is allowed to be. She never did break my trust. But if she would have, I could have gone far to forgive and go on.


Wow, that sounds like an amazing relationship!applause
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:06 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
there's something to learn there, don't despair. So you can trust, what you're on about unless I am missing your point, is about fear of openning up again. Take time to heal is all I can say.

Just so you know, you will fuck up again, we all will, in one way or another. Humility is best felt with wisdom.


Are you watching realisation dawn?wink professor rolling on the floor laughing
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:07 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
Are you watching realisation dawn?


never heard of it ..dunno


SIMPSONS forever!!dancing banana
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:11 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
never heard of it .. SIMPSONS forever!!


I don't think this has to do with not being willing to go out there again. I am fool enough to do that without reservation. I just wanted to be able to do it a bit wiser, maybe find some way of recognising signs or something so I don't have to be a fool every time.
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EnSilencio
Almunecar, Andalucia Spain
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:16 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
Wow, that sounds like an amazing relationship!


What am I then doing here rolling on the floor laughing

I never said I did not break the trust... moping D'oh!
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:17 PM CST
roseofsharon wrote:
Thank you.

In answer to your question (I think??).....

I am probably not the best judge especially with regard to trust within an intimate/romantic alliance, though suffice to say, I have always been naïve for my age, !!

One thing I have come to realise though is that when others I know have a crisis going on, my ‘phone never stops ringing, when I am in of need support………. now, wadda you think??

And I can’t be the only one…..surely??

Thanks again....


If people can recognise a soft touch, good person etc, as a trustworthy person, then there must be a way of seeing it.

So is being a good erson and a good friend synonamus with being trustworthy? Are there other ways of recognising it?confused
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:18 PM CST
EnSilencio wrote:
What am I then doing here

I never said I did not break the trust...


Sorry to hear that.hug
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:20 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
I don't think this has to do with not being willing to go out there again. I am fool enough to do that without reservation. I just wanted to be able to do it a bit wiser, maybe find some way of recognising signs or something so I don't have to be a fool every time.


I could maybe clarify this by saying that people pretend to be good people so it's not easy to recognise a trustworthy one.sigh
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:22 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
I don't think this has to do with not being willing to go out there again. I am fool enough to do that without reservation. I just wanted to be able to do it a bit wiser, maybe find some way of recognising signs or something so I don't have to be a fool every time.


ahhhhhh,, red flags ... Oooo ... well that may discourage you further. I could post a website to peruse those 'flags' but I find, and again personally that there are levels of abuse in us all, as well as levels of love. The flags might serve a purpose in avoiding the consistently abusive...But:

What might serve you better is looking for someone who is unafraid of talking about their feelings and just as willing to hear yours, without needing a bottle of Shnapps to do it.

People find it difficult not to take offense when it appears someone is hurt. We tend to personalize it as an attack instead of realizing they are feelings, just feelings. It's as important for the talker as it is for the listener to realize this. Problems begin with personalizing, the ego runs amock and all hell breaks loose. It then appears as if the other doesn't care, sadly, and communication takes a bad turn, even abusive.... all from not assessing one's feelings and then presenting them without bias, or blame.

Even if youm if the other person doesn't know feelings, then they will undoubtedly see bais and blame no matter how hard you tried to avoid it.

sad huh? ahhhh humans... wine

hows buddha?
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:25 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
I could maybe clarify this by saying that people pretend to be good people so it's not easy to recognise a trustworthy one.


there's a good point... people who dont challenge you relatively early in a relationship are likely people who stock pile sh*t, and save it up until you're lassooed...so avoid people who are nothing but charm for weeks and months on end...no serious discussions means something's up.

Better chance with someone who doesn't take your sh*t form the start, in a nice way of course.

JMHO
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:27 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
ahhhhhh,, red flags ... Oooo ... well that may discourage you further. I could post a website to peruse those 'flags' but I find, and again personally that there are levels of abuse in us all, as well as levels of love. The flags might serve a purpose in avoiding the consistently abusive...But:

What might serve you better is looking for someone who is unafraid of talking about their feelings and just as willing to hear yours, without needing a bottle of Shnapps to do it.

People find it difficult not to take offense when it appears someone is hurt. We tend to personalize it as an attack instead of realizing they are feelings, just feelings. It's as important for the talker as it is for the listener to realize this. Problems begin with personalizing, the ego runs amock and all hell breaks loose. It then appears as if the other doesn't care, sadly, and communication takes a bad turn, even abusive.... all from not assessing one's feelings and then presenting them without bias, or blame.

Even if youm if the other person doesn't know feelings, then they will undoubtedly see bais and blame no matter how hard you tried to avoid it.

sad huh? ahhhh humans...

hows buddha?


Thanks for that. It made complete sense.hug

Buddha is getting to know me nicely. It has the beginnings of trust. Ony because he is dead of course.rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:30 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
there's a good point... people who dont challenge you relatively early in a relationship are likely people who stock pile sh*t, and save it up until you're lassooed...so avoid people who are nothing but charm for weeks and months on end...no serious discussions means something's up.

Better chance with someone who doesn't take your sh*t form the start, in a nice way of course.

JMHO


Like you huh?rolling on the floor laughing sticking out tongue rolling on the floor laughing

Sounds good!!!applause

Seriously thanks! You kinda cut to the heart of what I really wanted to know.hug hug teddy bear bouquet of flowers
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lostpoet4u
Davenport, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:33 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
there's a good point... people who dont challenge you relatively early in a relationship are likely people who stock pile sh*t, and save it up until you're lassooed...so avoid people who are nothing but charm for weeks and months on end...no serious discussions means something's up.

Better chance with someone who doesn't take your sh*t form the start, in a nice way of course.

JMHO


very well said, and straight to the point thumbs up
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:33 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
there's a good point... people who dont challenge you relatively early in a relationship are likely people who stock pile sh*t, and save it up until you're lassooed...so avoid people who are nothing but charm for weeks and months on end...no serious discussions means something's up.

Better chance with someone who doesn't take your sh*t form the start, in a nice way of course.

JMHO


Opps, forgot the other side of the coin ... the person who shuts down or avoids discussions when you challenge them. Aggressive and passive aggressive ... the line in the middle is contemplative, then assertive. We humans fall off the line a lot laugh


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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:35 PM CST
lostpoet4u wrote:
very well said, and straight to the point



good ain't he! He should set up a clinic.rolling on the floor laughing
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:36 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
Thanks for that. It made complete sense.

Buddha is getting to know me nicely. It has the beginnings of trust. Ony because he is dead of course.


dropping jaw





thats UNpossible! someone would have to have met him and then? wow!

:checkin the obits:

nope not there, keep lookin for him though wave
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:37 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
good ain't he! He should set up a clinic.


sex clinic ... devil



yay

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gingerb
Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:40 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
sex clinic ...


Dream on big boy!!!!!!!!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:44 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
Dream on big boy!!!!!!!!



the usual reference to size laugh



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lostpoet4u
Davenport, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 21, 2008, 6:44 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
Dream on big boy!!!!!!!!


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