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Euthanasia

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WhatUwish4
Jacksonville, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:26 PM CST
Absolutely!!!

(But with good controls to avoid abuses)
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crotalus_p
Rush , Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:26 PM CST
cherokeemoon2 wrote:
.I would never get over helping someone to kill themselves.



In Holland you have to kill your self , a drink is prepared you drink it fallowed by another one 20 min’s later the pass out before your respiratory system fails , (it’s a lot more humane than lethal injection )
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cristina
Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:27 PM CST
cherokeemoon2 wrote:
well I have way to much compassion to do such a thing.I would never get over helping someone to kill themselves.


you'd need some trainingidea

did you suggest i should wait until i get old to understand or to feel how it could be? Put yourself in a painful situation...very painful...invalid, something like Jampet described...

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jampet
wexford, Wexford Ireland
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:27 PM CST
cherokeemoon2 wrote:
well I have way to much compassion to do such a thing.I would never get over helping someone to kill themselves.



hmmmmm!! compassion- how compassionate is it to watch someone choke on their own saliva- be unable to do the simplest task( think about it- i'm not talking eating here), watch them writhe in pain as they beg to be let go??

I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy!
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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, England UK
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:28 PM CST
Good thread Cris.. this should get the voices talking. thumbs up


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jampet
wexford, Wexford Ireland
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:30 PM CST
cherokeemoon2 wrote:
No killing another human being is still murder nomatter how u do it.Wait untill ur elderly and ask ur self that question.


ask the 30 year old recently married person i look after, that can't wipe the drool from her own mouth,( i won't specify other functions for the feint hearted) if she's waiting to be elderly??
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cristina
Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:31 PM CST
[quote=crotalus_p]In Holland you have to kill your self , a drink is prepared you drink it fallowed by another one 20 min’s later the pass out before your respiratory system fails , (it’s a lot more humane than lethal injection )[/quote

Not always you can kill yourself...

Killing "yourself" has an extend meaning which ends up being the same where Euthanasia is leagl: your consent.

Anyway, there is a long process before that...

There had been a documentary about French Swiss going on in Europe 2 years ago or so, have you seen it? Can remember any details about the production...

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cristina
Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:32 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
Good thread Cris.. this should get the voices talking.


You're welcome antie

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WhatUwish4
Jacksonville, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:33 PM CST
cherokeemoon2 wrote:
well I have way to much compassion to do such a thing.I would never get over helping someone to kill themselves.




I had to face this decision twice this year. In one case, the suffering was ABOUT to become so obviously severe that I found myself begging the doctor to just please hurry. It's a source of comfort to me that I at least spared her the worst.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:33 PM CST
cristina wrote:
you'd need some training

did you suggest i should wait until i get old to understand or to feel how it could be? Put yourself in a painful situation...very painful...invalid, something like Jampet described...
NO I am not suggesting anything if I had meant that I would have said it.But I am a firm believer that u cannot fully know about another persons situation unless u have walked in their shoesI do not intend to get in a argument about this.SO wave
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crotalus_p
Rush , Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:34 PM CST
cristina wrote:

Not always you can kill yourself...



No but if you can swallow (and hold the liquid down) you are required to do it your self





cristina wrote:
There had been a documentary about French Swiss going on in Europe 2 years ago or so, have you seen it? Can remember any details about the production...


No but I saw one on an English man that travelled to Holland to end his suffering
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:35 PM CST
jampet wrote:
ask the 30 year old recently married person i look after, that can't wipe the drool from her own mouth,( i won't specify other functions for the feint hearted) if she's waiting to be elderly??
I am glad ur a nurse in Ireland and not here.wave
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jampet
wexford, Wexford Ireland
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:36 PM CST
there was a comment made- in a national paper recently- by a journalist whose lover had recently died- that said 'hospice nurses....licence to kill!' man, that made my blood boil- i work hand in hand with the hospice nurses- we share care in the weekday, then we take over on the weekends- they are the most caring compassionate, knowledgeable people I have ever met, and NEVER, EVER, have I seen them use any more drugs than is medically necessary to ease suffering- not hasten a death!

that is not what we do- we make the last few minutes, hours, days, as comfortable and bearable as possible- to allow them to enjoy their time with their families, and die with a scrap of dignity!

if you have not been in that situation personally.please do not judge
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WhatUwish4
Jacksonville, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:36 PM CST
cherokeemoon2 wrote:
NO I am not suggesting anything if I had meant that I would have said it.But I am a firm believer that u cannot fully know about another persons situation unless u have walked in their shoesI do not intend to get in a argument about this.SO



Just for clarification - I'm not arguing with you either. I didn't know how I would feel when put to the test... but I do now...

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cristina
Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:37 PM CST
crotalus_p wrote:
No but if you can swallow (and hold the liquid down) you are required to do it your self

No but I saw one on an English man that travelled to Holland to end his suffering


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jampet
wexford, Wexford Ireland
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:38 PM CST
cherokeemoon2 wrote:
I am glad ur a nurse in Ireland and not here.


meaning?????
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cristina
Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:39 PM CST
cherokeemoon2 wrote:
I am glad ur a nurse in Ireland and not here.


what's the impact of the difference on this matter?
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:40 PM CST
WhatUwish4 wrote:
Just for clarification - I'm not arguing with you either. I didn't know how I would feel when put to the test... but I do now...
Tk u I didnt think u were.But Ive been here long enough to know where this is headed.I am sorry u were put to the test,its not a fun place to be.handshake
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WhatUwish4
Jacksonville, Florida USA
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:41 PM CST
cherokeemoon2 wrote:
Tk u I didnt think u were.But Ive been here long enough to know where this is headed.I am sorry u were put to the test,its not a fun place to be.



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And thank you.
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crotalus_p
Rush , Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jul 24, 2008, 5:41 PM CST
jampet wrote:
meaning?????


She could not think of anything intelligent to sayrolling eyes
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