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He's Scared, She's Scared - Relationship book guaranteed to blow your mind

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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 2:45 PM CST

Daughter!!scold This doctor's knee is still not too decrepit to accept your full weight in preparation for much-needed "spank" therapy!!professor wink
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Arlene101
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia Canada
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 2:47 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
Arlene, at the beginning of this thread, the quoted text from HE'S SCARED, SHE'S SCARED gave a long list of reasons why people are *not* unable to sustain relationships...

"If you've fallen in love with too many inappropriate people, it's not only because you have a big heart. If you've never been able to sustain a relationship for more than a year, it's not because of fluctuatiing biorhythms or transiting planets," etc.

I'm wondering if "rebelliousness" might be felicitously added to that list - viz., "If you cannot love with someone, it's not because you're a rebel"??
Anythig is possible with me Doc.. I will make attempt to get the book. Hell, I have my own Doctor for the last 20 years.professor
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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 3:00 PM CST
tufty wrote:
R.A.S. Aside
I guess Its more a fear of circumstances repeating, I'm sure there are plenty of....... Randies about that do just stick to getting their jollys in one place, a couple of years away from everything and I just can NOT bring myself to chase, and seeing as "the chase" is a pretty large chunk of the "game" of dating that places me in an awkward situation


Something in the book struck me as rather applicable to your case, Tufty:

"If you choose unavailable partners, then you are choosing relationships that already have a built-in sense of distance. And you have a clear-cut pattern of falling love with people who are, to all intents and purposes, unavailable, then, much as you may deny it, it is questionable whether you yourself are truly available for commitment...."

"...It's the classic scenario. You live in New York, your beloved lives in L.A. You have great weekends together six times a year. Your phone bill is outrageous. It may be romantic, but there is too much fantasy and not enough reality...."

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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 3:03 PM CST
Xtabentun wrote:
Are you tunning into " Auntie Ambrose" Jeff?


I may need to solicit the services of the *real* Auntie in order to handle the anticipated caseload, X...dunno hug wave
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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 3:06 PM CST
GrammarGirl wrote:
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rolling eyes scold rolling on the floor laughing dunno
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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 3:08 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
I guess you've chosen an emotionaly taboo subject jeff ..


Them's my favorite kinds, Al.here's to you uh oh! sad flower
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woody636
Elgin, Illinois USA
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 3:08 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
I may need to solicit the services of the *real* Auntie in order to handle the anticipated caseload, X...


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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tufty
Chelmsford, Essex, England UK
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 3:20 PM CST
Not quite.

The one before last... lovely... Randy as a bag of sex starved rabbits... and just an hours drive away....

Alas... She had an ex nearby that liked to get people checked out by social services.( I had a clean sparkly bill of health and an apology from them) messed her up so much while with him that she walked away from a million £ a year business just to escape.....

So every 2 1/2 months to more or less the day she suffered commitment phobia and locked herself away for a couple of weeks wanting nothing to do with only to get in touch asking to attempt again... after a year of that the nerve fibres where worn to a pulp.. so she wasnt (as far as I know...) getting jolly randomly.. just to headscrewed to move forward... 2 steps forward. 5 backwards.. start again!
and you cant really knock headturning wowser attraction, wherever it may appear?! Tho... I am a lot more tentative nowadays.... probably far to much so!!!!


Ermmm...

I guess this really isn't helping the old appearance much..
But the old saying goes it pays to be honest

uh oh!
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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 3:24 PM CST
An interesting quote from the book:

"Usually those who are emotionally unavailable give you plenty of warning up front. They may actually tell you they can't handle commitment. They may be emotionally elusive... They may simply be unable to give that much, and this becomes apparent very quickly. They may be...a little too hard to reach, too hard to find, too hard to pin down, too hard to keep around. In short, too distant, too controlled, too unavailable. A man or woman who behaves this way is warning you that he or she is afraid of intimacy. Why would keep trying unless you're afraid of intimacy, too?"

confused wow!
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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 3:26 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
An interesting quote from the book:

"Usually those who are emotionally unavailable give you plenty of warning up front. They may actually tell you they can't handle commitment. They may be emotionally elusive... They may simply be unable to give that much, and this becomes apparent very quickly. They may be...a little too hard to reach, too hard to find, too hard to pin down, too hard to keep around. In short, too distant, too controlled, too unavailable. A man or woman who behaves this way is warning you that he or she is afraid of intimacy. Why would keep trying unless you're afraid of intimacy, too?"


Anyone here know someone like that? Or could it be YOU??wow! conversing confused
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 3:28 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
Anyone here know someone like that? Or could it be YOU??




Yep...that's me. thumbs up grin
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GrammarGirl
Brandon, Manitoba Canada
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 5:19 PM CST
lktolbert wrote:
Dear Dr. Jeff:

Thank you so much for your prompt reply. I suspected something was not "quite right" with this individual but, of course, wanted to avoid any conclusions before seeking the opinion of an expert.

In an effort to gain more insight toward understanding my friend's affliction, I tried to locate your diagnosis in The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, but was unable to find anything on "sick motherf*ck*er." Where did you say you received your credentials?

Sincerely,
Linda



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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 6:26 PM CST
lktolbert wrote:
Dear Dr. Jeff:

Thank you so much for your prompt reply. I suspected something was not "quite right" with this individual but, of course, wanted to avoid any conclusions before seeking the opinion of an expert.

In an effort to gain more insight toward understanding my friend's affliction, I tried to locate your diagnosis in The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, but was unable to find anything on "sick motherf*ck*er." Where did you say you received your credentials?

Sincerely,
Linda


Well, Linda, I don't usually like to discuss my education credentials due to non-disclosure forms I was made to sign before being allowed to graduate...but suffice it to say that I received my masters at B*$(*#& University, and my doctorate at F!@*$*(& University...?
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 7:07 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
An interesting quote from the book:

"Usually those who are emotionally unavailable give you plenty of warning up front. They may actually tell you they can't handle commitment. They may be emotionally elusive... They may simply be unable to give that much, and this becomes apparent very quickly. They may be...a little too hard to reach, too hard to find, too hard to pin down, too hard to keep around. In short, too distant, too controlled, too unavailable. A man or woman who behaves this way is warning you that he or she is afraid of intimacy. Why would keep trying unless you're afraid of intimacy, too?"


hmmm
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jul 25, 2008, 7:09 PM CST
whats it say about picking short women? A thing I noticed about myself, so I have switched to redheads since the short thing doesn't work laugh
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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 10:24 AM CST
One of many interesting quotes from the book, about the role of fantasy in romance:

"Most people say that they don't have unrealistic fantasies, that they are prepared to accept mere mortals as their mates. They tend to forget that when we fantasize, we think not ony about how our future beloveds will look and behave, we also think about how we will feel when we are with them. We think about bliss and trust and sexual desire that doesn't stop. Even when we are prepared to accept our mate's imperfections, we are not prepared to accept our own everyday feelings of irritability and fatigue. We expect to feel close and bonded and perfectly at ease with each other - all the time. We certainly don't expect ever to feel bored, amibivalent, anxious, or annoyed. If any of these emotions surface, the fantasy is destroyed."

As an aside, I find it interesting that threads about sex draw a massive response, while threads about the serious issues of actually creating and sustaining a romantic relationship tend to sink like so much deadweight - this while soooo many people here constantly puzzle over what the heck has gone or is going wrong with their relationships.

I'm not feeling annoyed by this - I love the light banter (especially about sex!!) myself - just find it rather interesting. Do most of us truly believe that we can have good relationships without actually putting in large amounts of self-reflection? I have to say, that is my honest impression from what I've observed here and elsewhere.

I really find that interesting.wink confused help laugh
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