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The chemical companies have a vestid interest in convincing us that we need their products and they all stink but Monsanto actually take it a step further............. they have patents on their genetically modified plants so, if a bee polinates a neighbouring farmers crops and the said farmer ends up growin a crop with a patented strain, say some kind of disease resistance, then Monasnto has a clam on the yield of that farmers production - and the Bastards have actually taken farmers to court over these issues - thats one way of getting a bit of extra land I guess

Yes. I also take buses or trais. I havent a car.. What I cant understand is the meaning of many ppl that they are cant wait for a bus or train. What did they have to lose? 10 minutes of theier free time? what did rhey do inthey free time? What is so much important. We are all slaves of our work and we are all try to catch the best in our " freetime"....
But the most of of us cant see what they are loosing... meeting great ppl and make great expirences....

We cant do the blame only by multis or sombody else... we are all guilty... we acept this "way of life" and we all life in this world without moaning. the multis are doing the only thing what they can do... they are taking their chance and act. and we all let its happen.. Because we like it, if somebody tell us how to life...
It is easier...

You're right in the sense that we can't blame it on the multis. I only use them as an example of how we've been programmed to accept what they give us, rather than intelligently exercising our personal economic power, and driving market dynamics with our own decisions.

I agree with Noam Chomsky in terms of "Manufacturing Consent" though. The reason we've allowed them to think for us, is not because it's easier than thinking for ourselves. We've been programmed to think this is true. It's actually easier, long-term, to think for ourselves. The more you use a muscle, the stronger and more reliable it gets...

Fostering dependence is the first step in murdering independent thought.

"We are on the cusp of a new era that has the potential to be an era of abundance. In the coming decades, molecular manufacturing will be a reality. The Nanotechnology Glossary3 defines molecular manufacturing as "the automated building of products from the bottom up, molecule by molecule, with atomic precision. This will make products that are extremely lightweight, flexible, durable, and potentially very 'smart'." And cheap. Just as Apple enabled personal publishing by marrying the Postscript language with the Macintosh interface and an inexpensive LaserWriter printer, so will the coupling of molecular manufacturing with appropriate programming tools bring about a revolution we might call "personal manufacturing." Such personal nanofactories (PNs) already have been envisioned and are likely to be similar in look and ease of use to a printer or microwave oven. Indeed, an artist's conception can be seen at http://www.foresight.org/nano/nanofactory.html

The advent of PNs should bring the cost of most nonfood necessities to near zero. Much of the raw material for most objects we commonly use can be found in air and dirt, with a few fortified materials thrown in. If we build things from the molecules up (and conversely, break things down into their component molecules for reuse), materials cost will nearly disappear. Information would then become the most expensive resource. Meanwhile, computing power—information management—continues to expand exponentially even as its cost drops precipitously. Furthermore, as true artificial intelligence (AI) approaches, computers will become self-programming, and information cost may drop even more dramatically. It's already happening. Today, most of our products contain greater and greater information content (technology) at lesser and lesser cost. It appears that even food eventually could be manufactured on the kitchen countertop personal at practically no materials cost.

However, if history is a guide, the "haves" will always want to have more and the "have­nots" will end up getting relatively less. That is the way many people keep score—as the bumper sticker wisdom goes, "He who dies with the most toys wins." It's not just a silly ditty. It is a frank statement of the mindset of many individuals. And it is the "haves" that possess easy access to the levers of power and legislation. In a system based on scarcity, those holding the levers of production will not easily give them up. In domestic and international markets based on scarcity, the function and responsibility of directors and officers is to maximize shareholder value—at nearly any cost that does not fall afoul of laws, or at least not so far afoul that the penalties exceed the financial gain resulting from illegal actions."-The (Needed) New Economics of Abundance by Steve Burgess

Yes, exactly and this is how the whole system is run - the advertising industry is one thing but, people manipulation is an entirely different other thing.................

Yes, in one way it is a programing... But nobody has compelled us to this. We have let this happened. Most ppl dont wanna think... Because if they do this, from this moment they can see that life is just a fake... a theater... noting more.. but it is better to close the eyes and life the life like evrey day else...


I can see only a few ppl in this world, who wanna think and wanna change something... but what to change and how?... what is the better "system"?

We have in our country many good things... If i take your example with gas.. We have alternative energies... solar, natural gas etc... we have many bio-food... but only a few use it... because it coasts a little bit more as normal things... all say that they want change the world... but only without loosing comfort ... Many of us are thinking about the´situation... they arent stupid or programmed... only to comfotable... if I pay 3 $ more for a vagetable and I buy 3 vagetables per week I cant buy me something else... ppl here think, but many of themsay why should I cange something if my neighbor is changing nothing... what can I do alone... and if the others dont changing something why should I do? I thing many ppl would have a change, but other should do this... all can chance, if I dont lose my way of life...
Yes, we are all ignorant... and nobody accept, that they are part of the whole world... and that they are also responsibly of all whats happened.

Whilst people consider commodities as disposable and continue with their disregard for our planet, whilst they continue with the opinion that the stock market actually can work in their favour, there will be no improvement for the general populace - until people grasp the fact that we are all in this together and the best way forward is to help in every way we can and to set aside manufactured hatreds - until that time, hope is on the decline................. sadly

As long as we think, as individuals, that we can do nothing, that will be our reality.

Who cares whether your neighbor does anything?

Charity begins at home, and so does abundance.

As for cooperative efforts, research the European Collective, Mondragon. It's based less on individual profit and more on collective prosperity...

I live not very afr from where the co-operative movement began and was based on paying profits to the people who used the stores, this is a wonderful way of keeping money in local communities and helping those communities to provide for their own needs - our current society is failing because we have allowed people to manipulate us en masse, the profits no longer go into making life better or easier for communities, they go into the bank accounts of self serving and greedy corporations...............

oops, I forget to attribute the co-operative stuff to the Rochdale Pioneers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_Principles

And this is what I mean by deciding not to play...

Collectively, small business ends up having MORE power than big business, because they aren't bogged down by policy and institution. They're more flexible to changing market dynamics, and if they work together, they can become a powerful force for everyone's prosperity.

The problem with corporations is they're stuck in the paradigm of competition for resources, when the resources of tomorrow are unlimited and therefore defeat competitive natures through the operation of the invisible hand. When the resources are as available to the little guy as they are to the big guy, the big guy's size just gets in his way.

Thursday, February 7, 2008
Understanding God's economy: an attitude of abundance
For years, self-help gurus have been trying to help us understand what makes some people happy and successful, sometimes in spite of tremendous personal tragedy, while others are miserable even when healthy, well-fed and solvent. One of the key differences is a belief in abundance.

Some people view the world as a basically good place with an abundance of resources. Others have a scarcity mentality. They think in terms of getting “a piece of the pie.” In the scarcity mentality, there is only one pie. To get more of it, you must slice it differently or take a piece from somebody else. The abundance mentality is more like the old Dorito’s slogan: “Crunch all you want, we’ll make more.”

Scarcity says “I hate campaign season. All those politicians waste millions of dollars that could have been spent on something important, like housing the poor.” Abundance says, “I love campaign season. All these crazy rich people voluntarily pump millions of dollars into the economy. We don’t even have to tax them!”

Scarcity is the root of jealousy. When others succeed, those of the scarcity mindset count it as a personal failure. Someone is getting more pie! It stands to reason, then, that someone must be getting less pie. They start eyeing their own pie critically. Has it been sliced a tad skinnier while they weren’t looking?

Abundance loves to see others succeed. If my friends and neighbors are bringing in more money, scoring awards, enjoying good relationships or earning scholarships, then I have reason to hope, too. A prime example of this mindset is from the musical “Fiddler on the Roof.” When the poor peasant Tevye announces the engagement of his oldest daughter to the wealthy butcher, the other men in the town sing:

“We’ll raise a glass and sip a drop of schnapps
In honor of the great good luck that favors you,
We know that when good fortune favors two such men,
It stands to reason we deserve it, too!”

This is an attitude of abundance. It leads to generosity. Scarcity, though, leads to hoarding and hating. Scarcity says, “Immigrants are stealing all the jobs!” Abundance says, “Immigration creates job by increasing the demand for goods and services.”

Scarcity says, “Equal pay for equal work is a terrible idea. If companies have to pay women more, they might pay men like me less.” Abundance says, “Everyone should be treated fairly. Besides, if women are paid as well as men, we men won’t have to worry about losing our jobs to lower-paid female employees.”

Scarcity says, “I wish that I had Jessie’s girl.” Abundance says, “There are plenty of fish in the sea.”

Some resources really are finite or limited. Take oil for instance. Fossil fuels are, by definition, a limited resource. The scarcity mentality leads to blood-for-oil wars. Abundance says, “Let’s explore new technologies for wind power and bio-fuels. Together we can do it. Let’s get to work.”

We can find this contrast in the Bible as well. Isaac and Rebecca have twin sons, Jacob and Esau. The twins begin their lives with rivalry, Jacob grasping the heel of first-born Esau. Unfortunately for these boys, both of their parents deal in scarcity. They have only so much favor to bestow, so Papa Isaac favors the hairy outdoorsman Esau, while Mama Rebecca pities the softer son and teaches him to cook a mean lentil stew.

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Jacob views the world as a pie. His brother has clearly been given the larger piece of pie, for no other reason than that he was born a few minutes sooner. Because of those few minutes, Esau will receive the father’s blessing and the larger inheritance. Jacob will be expected to serve his slightly-older brother for the rest of his life.

Jacob is determined to increase his share of the pie by stealing his brother’s piece. He conspires with his mother to trick his father into bestowing on him the blessings of the first-born. You probably know the story. Jacob uses goatskins to deceive his father, who is nearly blind. When the mistake is discovered, Esau begs, “Father, bless me, too!”

Isaac’s response is remarkable. He says that he has already given the imposter everything – not just a large piece, but the whole pie. That makes me feel more sympathetic to Jacob. It means that his own father had no intention of blessing him! Jacob’s clever ruse with the goat skins really is the only way he can obtain his father’s blessing.

Esau is the one who snaps out of the scarcity mentality. Sobbing, he says, “Do you have only one blessing, my father? Bless me, too, my father!” Somehow, Isaac finds another blessing to bestow.

Hundreds of years later, the descendents of Isaac and Rebecca are crossing the desert to the promised land. God is still trying to teach them about abundance. When they cry for food, God produces manna. This strange bread-like substance descends from the sky every night. There is always enough for today. When some of the Israelites try to hoard the manna, it rots within a single day.

Fast forward several more centuries and we find Jesus echoing this sentiment in the prayer he teaches his disciples: “Give us this day our daily bread.”

In fact, throughout the Gospels, Jesus teaches abundance. When his disciples tell him to send away the hungry crowds, Jesus answers casually, “Why don’t you just feed them?”

The disciples are stumped. With what are they expected to feed some 5,000 men with wives and children? The few coins in their bag will not go far. As for prepared food, they manage to come up with a few fish and a few loaves – only enough for a little boy’s lunch. Jesus multiplies the loaves and fishes, feeds the crowd, and passes baskets to collect the leftovers. That’s abundance!

We don’t have the option of praying over a lunchbox and feeding thousands with it. We are forced to be creative. First, we must recognize that the scarcity mentality has failed us. In a world of rapidly depleting oil, creeping unemployment, hostile governments, and starving children, we cannot afford to view our resources as a pie. Instead we must view them as seeds that can be cultivated and multiplied until there is enough for all.

Scarcity says “We’re all going to die.” Abundance says “We can all live. Let’s get to work.” Posted by Jeannie Babb Taylor