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Polish monk preaches divine sex --

Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 10:26 AM CST
Polish monk preaches divine sex -- with Church's blessing

by Mary Sibierski Sat Aug 2, 11:23 PM ET

WARSAW (AFP) - He has been dubbed the high priest of Catholic Kama Sutra, but Polish Friar Ksawery Knotz says that by giving married couples tips on how to practice divine sex he is simply doing God's work.


"I certainly encourage married couples to pray for a good and happy sex life -- it's a way for them to become closer to God," the 43-year-old Roman Catholic monk told AFP.

"At first people are usually slightly shocked but at the same time happily surprised," says Knotz, who like all Catholic clergy has taken a vow of celibacy.

Knotz has held retreats with more than 3,000 devoutly Roman Catholic couples in Poland since 2000, with the tacit blessing of church superiors ... and an approving nod from secular therapists.

Couples are so eager to attend that his weekend and six-day workshops are booked solid for the next year.

"If you believe in God, then you believe God is involved in life, in love, marriage and in sex and sexuality -- it seems natural to talk about sex to remove taboos and the label of sinfulness," says the monk, who resides in a monastery of the Order of Friars Minor Capuchin in Stalowa Wola, southern Poland.

The friar admits the popular teachings of the Roman Catholic church on the subject of sex have been weak -- if not downright dissuasive.

"It's been labeled taboo or sinful," Knotz says, but is quick to point out that in keeping with the church's teaching, he preaches only about the joys of sex restricted to marriage between a women and men.

Both his book, entitled "The Act of Marriage", and his "Chance to Meet" website (http://www.szansaspotkania.net/), launched in 2004 and has both English and Polish versions, graphically explore the steamy details of divine love-making.

In a passage entitled the "theology of the orgasm", Knotz likens the peak of sexual excitation to meeting God in heaven.

"Love between a married couple expressed in sex, brings the human body closer to heaven. The ecstasy in the joy of sexual intercourse can be likened to the joy of eternal life," he says giving an unusual twist to the religious notion of eternal salvation.

"This is why the conjugal act allows spouses to begin to understand the sweetness of encountering God," Knotz concludes, and is quick to caution that "concentration on the physiological side of a sexual intercourse causes reduction of its most important elements."

-- Husbands must take time to 'fully appease' their wives --

Knotz also insists "good, open communication between spouses" is the best technique to achieve orgasms of heavenly proportions.

And he does not neglect women -- in strongly Catholic and conservative Poland where a Women's Party founded last year said the country's real political problem was not corruption or the legacy of communism but... male chauvinism.

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Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 10:27 AM CST
He encourages husbands to take their time to "fully appease" their wives.

"When a woman is excited, she wants to experience absolute pleasure as much as a man does," the monk's website says. "The feeling of sexual dissatisfaction, for a woman who is already excited, is a great physical and psychological suffering."

Though his teachings do not skimp on spicy details, detractors argue that as a celibate man of the cloth he lacks the hands-on experience to speak credibly about sex.

"I look at it this way: you don't have to have a heart condition to be a cardiologist and you don't have to be an alcoholic to work as a therapist," he says unfazed.

The monk explains he was originally inspired by the open atmosphere of his family home and the early teachings of late Polish-born Pope John Paul II who broached the subject of sexuality in his book "Love and Responsibility", first published in 1960.

"The Holy Father's 'theology of the body' and other philosophical and theological works delve deeply into the divinity of sexual relations in marriage -- I'm just making these complex ideas more accessible to average Catholics," he says.

Kasia and Jan Paluszewski are true believers. Married for 18 years the parents of three children aged 16, 13 and three, they say Friar Knotz's teachings have "uplifted" and "enlightened" their sex life and spirituality.

"The workshops with Father Knotz really helped us to overcome our inhibitions and guilt regarding sex," Jan, a 46-year-old IT specialist from Poland's north-western Kujawsko-Pomorskie region told AFP. "He really listens to couples and this is why I think he understands us so well."

Psychotherapist Marek Ruzdziewicz says conventional sex therapy does not address or really consider spiritual aspects of sex.

"I never heard of it before meeting Father Ksawery," he told AFP. "It's a novel approach which in my experience helps couples achieve greater intimacy -- so why not?"



A woman looks at a web page from Father Ksawery Knotz, also known as the "Catholic appostle of kama Sutra", on July 31, in Warsaw. Knotz, who councils married couples on sexual practice, affirms he is simply working for god.(AFP/File/Janek Skarzynski)
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Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 10:31 AM CST
im not catholic but i am on board with this type of thinking


professor


head banger
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 10:33 AM CST
OH!!!!
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solitare
Munchen, Bayern Germany
Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 10:45 AM CST
Long overdue to the general clergy I say. Fortunately I've had members of different Orders including nuns who have always had this positive attitude regarding all sexual matters for couples and singles both before marriage and afterwards. Long overdue.
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Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 11:03 AM CST
seriously

its like DUH

if one believes in a god how could anything about our bodies or desires be wrong

mostly-i mean w/in the right framework

not mindsick people
but sadly they are usually created by other mindsick people

not trying to start a debate about all feelings ideas or sex is gods idea but i do believe all intimacy-even w/ a friend is part of a divine nature in us all-well a potential is there anyway so how could
we deny it is god in us?

how could any clergy i guess is what i mean ...

if ya believe in god its either all is god or naught is
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Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 11:28 AM CST
this thread would win an award for officially being the least responded to "religious" thread ever...

maybe i shoulda posted it under religion


rolling on the floor laughing


sticking out tongue


devil
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solitare
Munchen, Bayern Germany
Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 11:48 AM CST
mindfful wrote:
this thread would win an award for officially being the least responded to "religious" thread ever...

maybe i shoulda posted it under religion


It could fit rather well into most categories, even the one for recipes! %D At least you posted it, good for you!
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pyaremohan
delhi India
Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 11:49 AM CST
No offence but naturally also men n women desire sex n love equally, we also have a separate school of thought in hinduism that believes in attainin god or salvation through love makin but talkin of appeasin someone ...does not sound right ,not equal , as if we r doin some favour to women ..... sex n love should be kept out of religion.
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friendsfirst
Burbank, Illinois USA
Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 12:07 PM CST
He encourages husbands to take their time to "fully appease" their wives.

"When a woman is excited, she wants to experience absolute pleasure as much as a man does," the monk's website says


Good Going.MF!

Sunday Morning Church.wave hug




angel smitten

This monk is on his way to becoming President monk.applause applause

Clap your hands brothers and sisters.
Amen.


heart beating
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friendsfirst
Burbank, Illinois USA
Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 12:09 PM CST
mindfful wrote:
this thread would win an award for officially being the least responded to "religious" thread ever...

maybe i shoulda posted it under religion


Give it time MF.

This one is WINNER i say!teddy bear teddy bear teddy bear
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friendsfirst
Burbank, Illinois USA
Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 12:50 PM CST
rev it up again
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lovestrees
Tacoma area, Washington USA
Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 1:16 PM CST
friendsfirst wrote:
He encourages husbands to take their time to "fully appease" their wives.

"When a woman is excited, she wants to experience absolute pleasure as much as a man does," the monk's website saysGood Going.MF!

Sunday Morning Church.



This monk is on his way to becoming President monk.

Clap your hands brothers and sisters.
Amen.


'bout time! Excellent!

This is something that helps all humans. I am happy to see it.

A lot of angst, anger, deviant-negative behavior will be remedied by these simple teachings.

Problems arise when we deny or go against our nature.

Simply teaching young men how to satisfy their lover, should be included in all schools, as important as math and language skills.

Can we visualize that world for a moment?applause
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Posted: Aug 3, 2008, 4:51 PM CST
lovestrees wrote:
'bout time! Excellent!

This is something that helps all humans. I am happy to see it.

A lot of angst, anger, deviant-negative behavior will be remedied by these simple teachings.

Problems arise when we deny or go against our nature.

Simply teaching young men how to satisfy their lover, should be included in all schools, as important as math and language skills.

Can we visualize that world for a moment?

this is what im saaaaying-

laugh
really tho hinduism or any path
if one believes one were created by an outside entity or whatever-even an evolutionary process...wouldnt it seem that this drive/desire is properly placed as part of the whole of us??


dancing
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lovestrees
Tacoma area, Washington USA
Posted: Aug 4, 2008, 9:49 AM CST
mindfful wrote:
this is what im saaaaying-


really tho hinduism or any path
if one believes one were created by an outside entity or whatever-even an evolutionary process...wouldnt it seem that this drive/desire is properly placed as part of the whole of us??


Yeah, any more votes for proper education?
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