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princemuncher northfield, Ohio USA
Depends on the Kid.

My son, when given a "time out" would occupy himself by singing, humming or just doing something stupid.

He got the spanking.

My daughter. She got upset when told to take the "time out."

Really, the only time I've ever laid a hand on my kids was when they were younger, and they would do something dangerous (such as going for a hot stove or playing with an electrical cord, etc)

Associate pain with danger at an early age and they will remember the consequences of their actions.

HOWEVER, spanking them without them CLEARLY understanding the reason teaches fear rather than respect for the parent.

IMO....some kids I see today really need an ass whooping. We got it when we were young, and we turned out fine.

And I'm sorry, but if my kid EVER said to my face "I hate you" or "You're an asshole." They're getting whacked.

My dad had a sneaky way of bringing about corporal punishment. He'd wait. We'd be siting on the couch watching TV (thinking we got away with something) and he'd come by and give us a whack.

We'd ask, "What was THAT for?"

And he'd say.....

"That shit you did LAST TUESDAY!"

Sneaky Fvcker.....

vinny1967 On Tour, Devon, England UK
kissmedeeply: Thank you..

It just pisses me off when people come in here and
attack me and call me a child abuser when that is
so far from the truth

I am not mean nor cruel/ or any of these words that
some spoke many months ago..

I dont take a belt or any weapons and beat them

My hand is what is used and on their bottom..


I can understand fully KMD.......

Home was ok for me.........Man used to get her slipper out from time to time laugh but school.......

We were beat black and blue by the Christian Brothers....

I don't personally agree with it but there is a huge diff between kids who get a slap on his/hers bum as opposed to Tam's
example of a young girl shaking in the corner at the sight of a man with a belt.........Thats a terrible indictment on our society in my opinion.......

Anyway good to see you.......

teddybear



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
Okay you tell me then tamarin

What about these parents that didnt do anything..
to discipline those children..

Now the children beat the hell out of their parents
just becos those parents let them get away with
everything..

blueriver30 amherst, Nova Scotia Canada
kissmedeeply: Yes and thank you

I just wish people would read in what i write

and stop saying i am a child abuser..

Spanking not beating the hell out of them


Joanne I think we have gotten off the topic of disiplenig our childen to child abuse. hug



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
vinny1967: I can understand fully KMD.......

Home was ok for me.........Man used to get her slipper out from time to time but school.......

We were beat black and blue by the Christian Brothers....

I don't personally agree with it but there is a huge diff between kids who get a slap on his/hers bum as opposed to Tam's
example of a young girl shaking in the corner at the sight of a man with a belt.........Thats a terrible indictment on our society in my opinion.......

Anyway good to see you.......


yes and each to their own

I dont think anything badly about parents who dont spank

but it worked for me

I just dont like someone thinking i am such a bad lady
for spanking.

it works for some and not for others

There i vented and nice to see you also



Tamarin somewhere, Lothian, Scotland UK
Tater: wow are you so liberal(politically correct) that that you can't say kids or children

you have to refer to them as small individual... this is why the world is as screwed up as it is



Tater I am going to agree to disagree with you here.....each child is a small individual. At university we had a prof who always quipped kids are baby goats please use the word children.
It stuck!

The world is screwed up because of greedy, war mongering individuals. Not some one off little female who teaches very young children... a job I love and feel honoured to be allowed to do. I have five golden rules in my class, time out and a golden chair. Positive behaviour and discipline is promoted and children taking responsibility for their actions. To put their brains into gear before they act or speak.

I accept there are various forms of parenting some work better than others in different situations.

My two played up one day in a store... did I hit them no, I rea acted as they had stomped my feet and threatened to lie down on the floor they were so shocked they fell silent and still.

By the way I had several job offers from Elem schools in the US as they liked how I was trained, thought and taught.
pubwrite08 District Heights, Maryland USA
Sommerauer71: Hi pub

Your statement fascinates me, why did they demand to be spanked?

I cam see all points of view, certainly I can, and each to their own.

I could not physically lift my hand to my children.

I just could not do it.

They never demanded it.

I think a whoop on the ass, we have all done it, in fun, when a toddler is walking post with a diaper on, we cannot resist, but a gentle pat, not in punishment.

What did you do?

My father pasted the back of my thigh, then he would hit me with a shoe.

My stepmother dragged him off me once.

That is the hitting I am talking about.

It made me deceitful, angry, belligerent, when all I wanted was a hug.

And to be talked to.
Well, I did it and it is done. Hitting kids with shoes and shit. No way, but hitting them yes. There were rules, and negotiating with somebody that can't pay rent. Nah, but you talking about like some sickness. Shoes belts were not required to get my point across. If they broke the rules, oh well.

They got hugs, and speeches... cuz kickin ass take energy. Nobody ever spanked my children but me. I was the only one there. I played with my kids, kissed them, hugged them. I do not understand the thought that if you spank a kid you do not love them.

I am sorry it was like that for you.



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
blueriver30: Joanne I think we have gotten off the topic of disiplenig our childen to child abuse.


Well these threads like this always leads to us being
child abuser..

that is why the last thread was deleted



Tater springfield, Illinois USA
princemuncher: Depends on the Kid.

My son, when given a "time out" would occupy himself by singing, humming or just doing something stupid.

He got the spanking.

My daughter. She got upset when told to take the "time out."

Really, the only time I've ever laid a hand on my kids was when they were younger, and they would do something dangerous (such as going for a hot stove or playing with an electrical cord, etc)

Associate pain with danger at an early age and they will remember the consequences of their actions.

HOWEVER, spanking them without them CLEARLY understanding the reason teaches fear rather than respect for the parent.

IMO....some kids I see today really need an ass whooping. We got it when we were young, and we turned out fine.

And I'm sorry, but if my kid EVER said to my face "I hate you" or "You're an asshole." They're getting whacked.

My dad had a sneaky way of bringing about corporal punishment. He'd wait. We'd be siting on the couch watching TV (thinking we got away with something) and he'd come by and give us a whack.

We'd ask, "What was THAT for?"

And he'd say.....

"That shit you did LAST TUESDAY!"

Sneaky Fvcker.....
laugh laugh

I had a grandma like that, hell once she even stuck a fork in my arm for talking at the table....laugh older folks didn't play and what was society full of back then.....you guessed it DECENT PEOPLE..thumbs up
blueriver30 amherst, Nova Scotia Canada
kissmedeeply: Okay you tell me then tamarin

What about these parents that didnt do anything..
to discipline those children..

Now the children beat the hell out of their parents
just becos those parents let them get away with
everything..


These kids are the victoms of their environmetn. In todays society parents are working their butts off to have everything and give their kids everything. The 2 important things that seems to be put on the backburner is love and communication.
princemuncher northfield, Ohio USA
kissmedeeply: Okay you tell me then tamarin

What about these parents that didnt do anything..
to discipline those children..

Now the children beat the hell out of their parents
just becos those parents let them get away with
everything..


I had my son, joking around, say to me once, "If you ever hit me, I'm calling the cops."

I replied,"Call the coronor, because you'll be dead by the time the cops get here."

Tam: My two played up one day in a store... did I hit them no, I rea acted as they had stomped my feet and threatened to lie down on the floor they were so shocked they fell silent and still.


Mine acted up in the grocery a few weeks ago, (They're 11 and 13) I made them sit on the bagging shelf and hold hands.

Embarassing the crap out of them works as well....

pubwrite08 District Heights, Maryland USA
Tater: I had a grandma like that, hell once she even stuck a fork in my arm for talking at the table.... older folks didn't play and what was society full of back then.....you guessed it DECENT PEOPLE..
Yes Tater, old people did not play. My grandmother would see you doing something and say, "Baby don't do that." She would continue doing what she was doing, and walk by maybe two more times, and repeat her statement soft same as before, then next thing you know... Your ass is cryin.



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
princemuncher: I had my son, joking around, say to me once, "If you ever hit me, I'm calling the cops."

I replied,"Call the coronor, because you'll be dead by the time the cops get here."
Mine acted up in the grocery a few weeks ago, (They're 11 and 13) I made them sit on the bagging shelf and hold hands.

Embarassing the crap out of them works as well....


yup me too..

He said if you spank me i will run away from home..

I said ok..let me help you pack..

I never spank them everyday...

but when they needed it they got it..

sometimes people say you let them get away with alot..

i was spanked when i was young.

And in Canada everyone well most everyone says i am
a decent..thougthful careing person..




Tater springfield, Illinois USA
pubwrite08: Yes Tater, old people did not play. My grandmother would see you doing something and say, "Baby don't do that." She would continue doing what she was doing, and walk by maybe two more times, and repeat her statement soft same as before, then next thing you know... Your ass is cryin.
laugh
yep I grew up in the projects, and the one thing I learned NEVER NEVER NEVER, piss a BLACK MAMA OFF, they will beat you with extension cords,shoes or whatever else was within their reach...laugh so alot of my friends had it worse off then me....thumbs up
reb56 carthage, Missouri USA
spanking,ive been bad,lol j/k,or a time out.



Tamarin somewhere, Lothian, Scotland UK
Tater: yep I grew up in the projects, and the one thing I learned NEVER NEVER NEVER, piss a BLACK MAMA OFF, they will beat you with extension cords,shoes or whatever else was within their reach... so alot of my friends had it worse off then me....


All I can say is thank goodness I grew up in England. Here if they did that they would be looking at a prison sentence and no access to children.



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
Tamarin: All I can say is thank goodness I grew up in England. Here if they did that they would be looking at a prison sentence and no access to children.


yeh well where children didnt have any disipline

where are they..Prison along with the parents
tina_olson Westby, Wisconsin USA
kissmedeeply: yes and each to their own

I dont think anything badly about parents who dont spank

but it worked for me

I just dont like someone thinking i am such a bad lady
for spanking.

it works for some and not for others

There i vented and nice to see you also


I fully agree with you on disipline--my daughter's are 15 and 20 both were given a swat on the behind or hand when doing wrong-they now are both well behaved young ladies-my oldest worked all through high school and they have respect for other's....How many kids I come across nowday's that I think could use a swat on the behind.....There is a difference in child abuse and teaching them right from wrong.....Do you know I had several friend's with children whom were never disiplined and the worst part is I just hated the thought of them coming over---because they were allowed to do just as they pleased in your own home......



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
tina_olson: I fully agree with you on disipline--my daughter's are 15 and 20 both were given a swat on the behind or hand when doing wrong-they now are both well behaved young ladies-my oldest worked all through high school and they have respect for other's....How many kids I come across nowday's that I think could use a swat on the behind.....There is a difference in child abuse and teaching them right from wrong.....Do you know I had several friend's with children whom were never disiplined and the worst part is I just hated the thought of them coming over---because they were allowed to do just as they pleased in your own home......


Hello again hope all is well with you..

Yes i totally agree..

they come over and just tare things up becos they
were allowed to get away with everything..

My both boys goes to people places..and the parents
told me they are so well behaved..thank you and pls
to everything and they dont reach for anything unless
they ask first.
pubwrite08 District Heights, Maryland USA
Tater: yep I grew up in the projects, and the one thing I learned NEVER NEVER NEVER, piss a BLACK MAMA OFF, they will beat you with extension cords,shoes or whatever else was within their reach... so alot of my friends had it worse off then me....
Yep, I was a blck Momma, raised by a black Momma, and father... and I raised my kids with the black Momma mentality, with a softer approach, but I told them... What I say i will do for you, I will. What I say I will do to you I will. And yes, I got beat with an extension cord or two. Did they love me hell yeah they did and I knew it.

My mother told my sister, stop running past the stove it is hot. She kept doing it, I know she warned her four more times. Next thing I know she smacked my sister dead in the back with the spatuala.

I can't feel bad about my kids... I refused to. I always warned them before I struck. I was a single Mom with four kids, and three baby daddies. And they were not going to turn out like some of their friends. I just was not having it. Then Marcus came, and he was a mess. But I am proud of him too.




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