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Oooo errr...!! And I thought it was just coz I had a face like a robber's dog??!!

Bloody hell.... ya mean it could be something else AS WELL??!!

Jeez!!!

Right mate. Sometimes it is better to be single. You can get into a relationship and before you know it you are looking for the exit, or wondering if you have stayed too long.

My opinion has nothing to do with physical appearances. Let me explain, alison.

98% of the population is unrealistic about what would make them happy. They either have standards that are too high, or too low, they have issues with age differences, issues with political or religious differences, or they have race issues. Bottom line is nobody really knows what the hell to do, and putting them into a dating situation where they're expected to be paragons (mostly these expectations exist in their own minds, because the other person is too busy doing the same thing to have any real expectiations beyond their own narcissistic needs) is so torturous they'd rather do ANYTHING than date.

Yep. Undatable. For a variety of reasons. The other 2% don't date, not because they aren't fit to, but because they are already in happy, stable relationships because they DIDN'T have the above problems.

Hi there,

Your not alone......how would you like to be 61-1/2 and still dating. It's really difficult, but it's better than nothing. My friends say I'm a good looking gal, but, I meet guys that are fatter, and lie about how tall they are, go figure. I don't like liars, and I don't do it myself. But, don't give up, I'm sure there is a lovely girl out there looking for you too!

Very well explained and I understand fully, of course, GB. But....

The alternative, surely, is to not have any expectations (okay so far?) and lower one's standards to the point that, i.e. out of desperation or in order to not be alone anymore, etc, etc that anyone will do??

That strikes me as possibly heading for disaster too, n'est pas??

It's almost always more fun to do it with a partner.

This ties right in with what I said above. You're not "undatable" because you aren't a lovely, vivacious woman, you're undatable because you don't fit with "datability" criteria.

I won't lie. I'm short. I'm undatable in most respects because most women don't want a short guy. Why should that matter in my ability to make them happy I'll never figure out, but hey, can't win any of them...

BTW, I forgot to say..... Ship, you sound awfully gay, love!!

Oh bollocks...I'm just gonna be single....problem over.

.....Now that that's settled, I feel better, actually....

The best course, IMO, is to strike a balance. Some standards people have just plain don't make sense. Sure, If I'm a lying sleazy philanderer, I get it. But...If I'm too short and too young, but otherwise perfect, WTF?

Anyways. Like I said, being undatable doesn't mean people don't do it anyway...lol

bummer........... I thought our only prob was age....... n maybe a few miles too - lets not disclose our height here cos it may preclude you n I from rampant sexual mutual gratification

Brilliant!!!...

Oh, trish, luv. Let's not give these blokes anything more to talk about than they already have. If it weren't for the "age" and "distance" , I'm sure the "height" thing would be something we could manage to accomodate. It's more sorta a three strikes phenomenon..

5'7" is short? That's the same height as me...but I get what you're saying. For a man it's short...and yet, there are a lot of women shorter than you. The average height for a woman is 5'4", so to a lot of women you'd be taller than them.

Yep. That's true. But those women want someone, tall, dark, and handsome...someone they can wear heels with and not tower over them...Someone, in short, hehe, other than me. It's okay. I've learned to live with my undatability.

Many men also put emphasis on the fact they want a physically fit lady, attractive, able to keep up with him in the bedroom. Many of us do not fit that bill at all. I sure know I definetely do not. But as I said in one other forum, WOW she's a pretty package, open her up and get to know her, no need to go. I have met many beautiful men and women on here in the 5 on again off again years I have been here and most are genuine, caring people. We just need to keep looking and if nothing else we will have many more friends
As for you mastic, I happen to know you are a very nice guy and do all you can to be a good father. Now believe in yourself and live each day with that knowledge. Luv Ya Now I want the long hair pic. back

You know, my late husband was 5'5"...I'm 5'7". I knew he was a little shorter than me before we started dating, but it had ceased to matter because I'd fallen in love with the soul looking out of those eyes. Since I can't wear heels, I don't have to worry about towering over anyone. He told me, after he noticed it (took him a while, silly man...fell under "I don't notice the small stuff" for him), that he'd never dated any woman taller than him because most would turn him down.

See, when you find the right person, stupid stuff like height ceases to matter. I know a woman who married a midget...literally. Their children were all of normal height. She later developed MS and ended up in a wheelchair. Yes, she was still taller than him, but who cared?

The right one will someday come along for whom stupid things aren't an issue.

I know I said thanks, I didn't expect such good and down to earth responses, Thanks again.

You have so much to offer and whoever finally latches onto you will be one lucky lady!!!!

Mastic, you're worth dating. Honestly. We all are...we just all have to find the right one. They're out there, somewhere, if we give them a chance to find us.

Btw, in case you haven't figured it out yet, we all feel this way at times. I've been having one of those days, too.