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Repubes are surely good at making stupied propoganda stuff blaming all others than them selves for the current stupied economy made and founded by Bushney,s and their stupied wars and their lack of care and love for their own country.......

Now seeing that shit look at some wise words of real economs with brain as well Indy:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/30/marketturmoil.wallstreet

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/jan/07/usa.iraq

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article3419840.ece

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23286149-2703,00.html

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9807E5DF1138F933A05754C0A9649C8B63

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/12/bush200712

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4201812.stm

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/79988/

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/18/poll.iraq.economy/index.html

http://www.econ.yale.edu/~nordhaus/iraq.pdf

http://boilingpotusa.com/wordpress/?p=128

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/15850


You really should stop getting all of your ideas about any thing from propoganda mass manipulation which is simply made for the folks on the street to make them angry .....and reading some more deep going journalism stuff Indy.

I know it is so easy just to see a video like that, confirming all your own prejudgements and spreding the idea aggressivley to any body you meet as well, but still...... You are an educated Fella Indyfella.... Read some thing other than the usual stuff you read!

Want to "fight" agaisnt me with Bullshit propoganda only? You really thing your McCaij is going to win by simply using stuff like that dont you?

Guess what Indy ..... there is definately need for more that, if the old war monger dude wants to win!

I know GWB won exactly the same way but still... back then one of his oponents was a John McCain and beside time have changed, theprice of stupidity has been too high, people have lost kids and hubs and wives and parents and health and mental health and homes and savings and you know Indy.... Yeah Time has really truely changed and the majority of americans wont Eat Bullshit and keep saying Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyy!!!!! No way

Sky has been asking me to cite some sites and source.

This is a overview of the countries economic condition, the cost of the war, the Budget prediction of the White House.

Part one.

The economic melt down/bailout/or revitalization is about numbers.
We have heard a lot of numbers on it. But really where are we and what have we accomplished in the last 8 years? Alot.

FI want to address Barak Obama and one of his most favorite numbers......$10b.....one month cost of the war in Iraq. $120b annually.

According to Barak that is the sources of our economic problems. It has broken the economic back of the country. Is that an accurate statement?

Let us put it into a ratio of some government budgets and the countries GNP. And you tell me.

The $120b for Iraq is............23% of DoD's $515b annual budget. (2009) A sizeable share. I also suggest that if we were not in Iraq, we would still being spending $450+b on DoD.

But the war is not solely the responsibility of DoD, the State Depart.
AID, and other Gov't agencies are in all the country as well.

If you look at the $120b as a share of the entire $1680b Federal Government budget is......................... 7.1% of the entire Federal Gov't budget (2009)

And if you look at the war from our GNP.......it is ................................ 8.5% of our $1400b GNP (2008)

>1 8.5% of our GNP to set up a Democratic gov't in Iraq, to make contact and detained foreign fighters, to gain position on Iran, and to export democracy in the world. Not a bad deal, if it changes in the Persian Gulf region and makes a better world in the future for the coming generations.

Note the GNP to our FED Government budget. A $280b deficit. There is the problem.We have been running a deficit gov't budget for a number of years now. It means your banks have to find a lot of capitol to cover the deficit to make your POB. That effects their liquidity and solvency.
The way you change this, is with spending reduction.

Barak mentions the $79b Iraq surplus. They have increase their oil exports during a time of high prices. From 1mpd to 4mpd. Expect 5mpd soon. Sometime when he has said that.....as in the OReilly interview.....they have mentioned 'going and getting some of it back'.

If so, it would the first time in our countries history that during an
occupation of a foreign country, we have done such. We have never taken tribute or payments, from a country that we have had a war with and occupation of. It puts us with the likes of Hitler, Napleon, and others....that would conquer a country and then take tribute from it,
to finance thier gov't and military. I don't like the idea. We set a new presidence that the US will occupy a country and then take from it.

Having said that, the security agreement and troop withdrawl that are hoped to be signed by January...reduction in the $10b.

Back to the US economy.

A few things from the White House 2009 Overview of the Budget. Important is some info on mortages. Done in the 1st quarter.

>The Budget incluses proposals to preseve and promote homeownership and to respond to the TROUBLED mortage markets.
$65m to HUD/$150m to Nieghborhood Reinvestment Corp.
Through risk-based pricing and other reforms, FHA will ofer a wider variety of mortage products and create more homeownership
opportunities. In addition, under FHASecure, FHA is allowing families whe have become DELINQUENT on thier mortage payment as a result of thier loan resets, as well as those who are current, to qualify for
refinancing.

>The Adminstration also has taken steps to address the challenges in the mortage markets. In addition to proposal above, the Adminstration has supported efforts to assemble a grop of lenders, loan services, mortage coonsulers, and investors (the Hope, NOW alliance) to identify trouble borrowers and help them refinance or modify their mortages, so that more families can stay in thier homes.

end of part 1

Good to see you back in this thread bro......

Obama Rocks, McCain Sucks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He would certainly make a good wife?

I really know what you are talking about Conrad....

Barack Obama was seated next to a little girl on an airplane trip back to Washington. He turned to her and said, “Let’s talk. I’ve heard that flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.”

The little girl, who had just opened her book, closed it slowly and said to The Obama, “What would you like to talk about?”

“Oh, I don’t know,” said the Obama. “How about What Changes I Should Make To America?” and he smiles.

“OK,” she says. “That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass. Why do you suppose that is?”

Obama, visibly surprised by the little girl’s intelligence, thinks about it for a second and finally says, “Hmmm, I have no idea.”

To which the little girl replies, “Do you really feel qualified to change America when you don’t know shit?”

Part Two:

The quotes show that the White House had seen the mortage crisis
coming. Had taken some action on it. But I think that they underestimated it. They were talking millions, and needed to be talking billions.

Also some of what the White House was proposing needed legislation.
I am not sure if they got it. If not, assuming that they asked for.....the
congress has a share of blame here.

Moving on.

Why can GWB and McCain say that the economy is healthy? Well they had economic growth....6 straight years....averaging 2.8%. Growth
in the eocnomy is healthy. Negative is sick.

GNP is one of the critical number of your country. If it is shrinking, you got problems.

Let us consider the bailout. The effect of a $700b bailout on a $1400b
GNP has never been studied. It is 50% of the GNP. To put it another way.....you make $50K per year. And get hit with a court ruling on civil case...the Judge order you to pay $25K this next year in a lump sum to the plantiff. You just had a very bad year.

The bailout is nothing but negative numbers for the budget and economy, untill the mortages that the gov't is buying starts to be resold. There the housing bubble burst, has reduced the prices of house by 50%. How do they get the $700b when thier market for houses is down?

That is why I am support loans, creditlines, insurance programs. The more from the private sector that better.

They just announced the Senate is voting on a $832b bailout. That add ons and pork has been added. So my numbers are off. But......to me....$700b or $832b it is too big for the economy and its GNP.

This thing is beginning to effect credit. My initial concern of this. When the plastic starts to go bad.....this will effect consumer confidence big time. Auto dealers are closing because of lack of credit.

I don't have any good suggestions for you on credit. If you are tapped out and high balances right now.....don't expect the banks to extend you more. Pay as much in cash as you can. Watch the terms of creditline, cards, and other credit carefully. If the banks have any kind of term on your credit lines to adjust the rates...they will do so now.

This not over with. Hang on. Be good and safe. Enjoy life......just with less for a time.

My sources for this:

GNP United States
http://www.data360.org/graph.aspx?Graph_Group_Id-150

Budget of the DoD
Http://whitehouse.gov/omb/fy2009/defense.html

Overview of the President's 2009 Budget
http://www.whitehouse.gov.omb/budget/fy2009/overview.html

Mid year 2009 Budget Summary

Why is it that sometimes you can spell like a 1st grader and other times like a college graduate? One has to wonder????

PS:
Dems are surely good at making stupied propoganda stuff blaming all others than them selves for the current stupied economy made and founded by Pelosi and Company and their lack of care and love for their own country.......

it was a cool one Kansan! Good to see you ! I am really happy because of the great news about you life now on days man. Wish you fabulous time over there

That's great.....and accurate. I even think Dude might know the difference.

I am not sure but it happens when I try to type too fast and really get exicited....

English is not my first languge but really I try my best even it is terrible english any way

Naaaaaaaaa, It's almost like another person or personality is typing it....

I don't know why Dude didn't post this. Thanks Dude:

Q. What do Obama and Osama have in common?
A. They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.

Q. Why did Obama change his name from Barry to Barack?
A. He thought Barry sounded too American.

Q. Why won’t Obama Messiah release his real birth certificate?
A. It shows that he didn’t have a virgin birth.

Q: What do you get when you cross a crooked politician with a crooked lawyer?
A: Barack Obama.

Q. Why will Jay Leno vote for Barack Obama?
A. Because he’s running out of George Bush jokes.

Q. Why will Britney Spears vote for Barack Obama?
A. Because she’s running out of other crazy things to do.

Q. Why wouldn’t Barack salute the American flag?
A. It was ours.

Q. Why will Jimmy Carter vote for Barack Obama?
A. Because Carter doesn’t want to be the worst President in history.

Q. Why is Barack Obama so thin and scrawny?
A. If he were any heavier he wouldn’t be able to walk on water.

Q. What do McCain and Osama have in common?
A. They both wsih to destroy America even more than it has bene destroyed by their commin "friend" George W Bush.

Q. Why did McCain change his from John to MaverikJohn?
A. He thought it sounded better than McNasty.

Q. Why won’t McCain """American""" accept he is not even real american any way?
A. It shows that he has been experiencing some thing in his childhood among all those soldiers in Panama which are truely imberessing to admit or talk about Ever.

Q: What do you get when you cross a crooked politician with a crooked tax cheater who made his millions because of infidelity and a non honurable leaving his sick wife?
A: John McCain.

Q. Why will Geroge W Bush vote for John McCain?
A. Because he cares deeply about the rights of Assholes.

Q. Why will Carl Rove vote for John McCain?
A. Because he knows he is probabely going to jail for the rest of his life if McCain looses this election .

Q. Why would McCain keep talking about the American flag and using bigger and bigger flags behind him where ever he apears?
A. So people forget all of his lies and shutting up.

Q. Why will Donald Rumsfeldt vote for Barack Obama?
A. Because Donald wants to keep his job behind the scens so desperatly and keep master minding mass killings of other human beings.

Q. Why is Joh McCain so fat and ugly?
A. Because if he looked "Normal" then people could be Fooled by his apearence.

ty Indy....... they were funny

Indy, Indy, Indy...... telling jokes on Barak Obama is going to make that class of singing school kids to cry. They are being taught to sing the praises of Obama.....and they get online...wander into CS....
see your post. Man you are breaking their hearts.

Still sending a copy the jokes to the RNC and Obama camp is high recommended. Maybe there is a new campaign ad them.....get royalities.

Welcome back, Kansas.....hope you are feeling better.

I saw that. I can't believe that parents are indoctrinating their kids at 5 years old to love a politician.
Isn't that what they do in Iran/Iraq/Afganistan?

As much as I'd like to take credit...someone sent it to me...who can remain nameless.

hello? dont get me started again