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jlw45 duncanville, Texas USA
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hmmm...i was told ,not long ago, that it was crap....i geuss it all depends on wiether you like what it says, or notprofessor rolling on the floor laughing



Indyfella indianapolis, Indiana USA
StressFree: Nonsense. ''I don't regret setting bombs,'' and ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' were pieced together in the same sentence.
It was taken out of context and that too is documented. Ayers has addressed this.

Indyfella, do you have the complete interview of the questions and answers? No, and if you did, you would put a foot in your mouth cause you will see how you were played by the media..



This wasn't from FOX, it was from a paper you would subscribe to....rolling on the floor laughing
jlw45 duncanville, Texas USA
StressFree: Nonsense. ''I don't regret setting bombs,'' and ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' were pieced together in the same sentence.
It was taken out of context and that too is documented. Ayers has addressed this.

Indyfella, do you have the complete interview of the questions and answers? No, and if you did, you would put a foot in your mouth cause you will see how you were played by the media..
wiether it was pieced together or not ,should'nt matter...the first sentence should be enough...professor dont you think?
Skybow apple valley, California USA
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?_r=1&oref
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Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths

CHICAGO — At a tumultuous meeting of anti-Vietnam War militants at the Chicago Coliseum in 1969, Bill Ayers helped found the radical Weathermen, launching a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and United States Capitol.

Twenty-six years later, at a lunchtime meeting about school reform in a Chicago skyscraper, Barack Obama met Mr. Ayers, by then an education professor. Their paths have crossed sporadically since then, at a coffee Mr. Ayers hosted for Mr. Obama’s first run for office, on the schools project and a charitable board, and in casual encounters as Hyde Park neighbors.

Their relationship has become a touchstone for opponents of Mr. Obama, the Democratic senator, in his bid for the presidency. Video clips on YouTube, including a new advertisement that was broadcast on Friday, juxtapose Mr. Obama’s face with the young Mr. Ayers or grainy shots of the bombings.

In a televised interview last spring, Senator John McCain, Mr. Obama’s Republican rival, asked, “How can you countenance someone who was engaged in bombings that could have or did kill innocent people?”

More recently, conservative critics who accuse Mr. Obama of a stealth radical agenda have asserted that he has misleadingly minimized his relationship with Mr. Ayers, whom the candidate has dismissed as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood” and “somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know.”

A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called “somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.”

Obama campaign aides said the Ayers relationship had been greatly exaggerated by opponents to smear the candidate.

“The suggestion that Ayers was a political adviser to Obama or someone who shaped his political views is patently false,” said Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman. Mr. LaBolt said the men first met in 1995 through the education project, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and have encountered each other occasionally in public life or in the neighborhood. He said they have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Mr. Obama began serving in the United States Senate in January 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they bumped into each other on the street in Hyde Park....

Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
StressFree: Nonsense. ''I don't regret setting bombs,'' and ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' were pieced together in the same sentence.
It was taken out of context and that too is documented. Ayers has addressed this.

Indyfella, do you have the complete interview of the questions and answers? No, and if you did, you would put a foot in your mouth cause you will see how you were played by the media..
And in the case of Obama,isn't the World played by the Media?
If he get's in,I hope the Media will have a Special Selfcongratulatory Party.
It will be their President.
The Invisible Man.
The Nonexistent Man.uh oh doh
No matter what happens on the 4th,I'll be laughing at the Sheep.rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Hugz_n_Kissez Someplace, Ontario Canada
Skybow: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?_r=1&oref
=slogin&ref=politics&pagewanted=print

Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths

CHICAGO — At a tumultuous meeting of anti-Vietnam War militants at the Chicago Coliseum in 1969, Bill Ayers helped found the radical Weathermen, launching a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and United States Capitol.

Twenty-six years later, at a lunchtime meeting about school reform in a Chicago skyscraper, Barack Obama met Mr. Ayers, by then an education professor. Their paths have crossed sporadically since then, at a coffee Mr. Ayers hosted for Mr. Obama’s first run for office, on the schools project and a charitable board, and in casual encounters as Hyde Park neighbors.

Their relationship has become a touchstone for opponents of Mr. Obama, the Democratic senator, in his bid for the presidency. Video clips on YouTube, including a new advertisement that was broadcast on Friday, juxtapose Mr. Obama’s face with the young Mr. Ayers or grainy shots of the bombings.

In a televised interview last spring, Senator John McCain, Mr. Obama’s Republican rival, asked, “How can you countenance someone who was engaged in bombings that could have or did kill innocent people?”

More recently, conservative critics who accuse Mr. Obama of a stealth radical agenda have asserted that he has misleadingly minimized his relationship with Mr. Ayers, whom the candidate has dismissed as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood” and “somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know.”

A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called “somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.”

Obama campaign aides said the Ayers relationship had been greatly exaggerated by opponents to smear the candidate.

“The suggestion that Ayers was a political adviser to Obama or someone who shaped his political views is patently false,” said Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman. Mr. LaBolt said the men first met in 1995 through the education project, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and have encountered each other occasionally in public life or in the neighborhood. He said they have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Mr. Obama began serving in the United States Senate in January 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they bumped into each other on the street in Hyde Park....



Right...he met the man who he was 26 yrs later...not the 70's bomber....I still think it's a big reach...What are they trying to say with this relationship anyway????...That's what has me perplexed...he supports terrorism????....What????


wave wink roll eyes uh oh dunno grin
ttom500 St. Cloud, Florida USA
Indyfella: Well, he launched his senate campaign in Ayer's living room.... (just for starters) Obama knew what Ayer's was.... if not...he's too ignorant to be president.


I agree with Indy on this one. By the time Obama kicked off that first
campaign for the IL Senate race......he had lived in Chicago for 10+
years. He knew who and what Ayers was then. Obama was keen into local political scene or he wouldnot have been asked to run.

In Chi town, it ain't what you know, but who you know that counts.

If he did not know....as he seems to pleads today......then he is far to naivee to be President.



Indyfella indianapolis, Indiana USA
jlw45: wiether it was pieced together or not ,should'nt matter...the first sentence should be enough... dont you think?


Well JLW...maybe they were just itty bitty bombs at the Capitol? laugh (i think?)
StressFree small city, Kalmar Sweden
ttom500: Time for me to tell you a story, Stree. Because I was there.



Like I said, I do not endorse his violent actions. I only endorse some of his fundemental beliefs. Not the violence I will repeat.

In my mind, Bush, Cheney, Wolfiwitz, and Rumsfeld has done worse things.



Indyfella indianapolis, Indiana USA
Hugz_n_Kissez: Right...he met the man who he was 26 yrs later...not the 70's bomber....I still think it's a big reach...What are they trying to say with this relationship anyway????...That's what has me perplexed...he supports terrorism????....What????


Just one of many people Obama has kicked to the curb since becoming a candidate... that's all.
Skybow apple valley, California USA
Maybe they want to join or inspire the crowds at McCains rallies that look a whole lot like one of the mob scenes with torches from a Frankenstein movie. Kind of sound like them too.

"Kill the monster"
Hugz_n_Kissez Someplace, Ontario Canada
Indyfella: Just one of many people Obama has kicked to the curb since becoming a candidate... that's all.



Well look at the controversy over just the bit of relationship he had with the man...I don't really think he had a choice in the matter...wink roll eyes dunno thumbs up



Indyfella indianapolis, Indiana USA
Skybow: Maybe they want to join or inspire the crowds at McCains rallies that look a whole lot like one of the mob scenes with torches from a Frankenstein movie. Kind of sound like them too.

"Kill the monster"


I think they were referring to Dude rolling on the floor laughing
jlw45 duncanville, Texas USA
StressFree: Like I said, I do not endorse his violent actions. I only endorse some of his fundemental beliefs. Not the violence I will repeat.

In my mind, Bush, Cheney, Wolfiwitz, and Rumsfeld has done worse things.
i know....they got that sweetheart group, the taliban and that sweetheart saddam out....professor rolling on the floor laughing
StressFree small city, Kalmar Sweden
Hugz_n_Kissez: Right...he met the man who he was 26 yrs later...not the 70's bomber....I still think it's a big reach...What are they trying to say with this relationship anyway????...That's what has me perplexed...he supports terrorism????....What????


They are trying to subliminally embed a seed in the people's minds that Obama is linked to terrorisim and Arabs.

It works with the people who are going to vote for McCain no matter what. In fact, it distorts their reality.

Terrorist has been yelled from the crowd, and some lady called Obama an Arab. And McCain did correct her, but never said anything to the man that yelled terrorist.

They are tying to manipulate the voters into thinking that Obama is a muslim/terrorist/Arab/ America hater. They keep kicking the dead horse saying who is the real Obama? It's an attempt to build distrust in Obama and paint him as a criminal.
ttom500 St. Cloud, Florida USA
Hugz_n_Kissez: Right...he met the man who he was 26 yrs later...not the 70's bomber....I still think it's a big reach...What are they trying to say with this relationship anyway????...That's what has me perplexed...he supports terrorism????....What????


It is a his judgement that is being questioned. I knew SDS at my college and some played on athletic teams with me. I knew that if they said.....hey Tom.....want to party tonight.....I knew what they meant.
If they said to me.....hey Tom....want to do the University at Madison
this weekend. I knew what they meant...and would say no.

Would I want any as a reference for a job? NO. Would I want to hang with them, 40 years later? NO Would I want any of them to kick off my
political career? NO

Hugz_n_Kissez Someplace, Ontario Canada
StressFree: They are trying to subliminally embed a seed in the people's minds that Obama is linked to terrorisim and Arabs.

It works with the people who are going to vote for McCain no matter what. In fact, it distorts their reality.

Terrorist has been yelled from the crowd, and some lady called Obama an Arab. And McCain did correct her, but never said anything to the man that yelled terrorist.

They are tying to manipulate the voters into thinking that Obama is a muslim/terrorist/Arab/ America hater. They keep kicking the dead horse saying who is the real Obama? It's an attempt to build distrust in Obama and paint him as a criminal.


I think soooooo too because I have seen it right here on this forum...where people think he's Muslim and therefore has to be linked to terrorism...In the meantime...McCain was at a rally where they supported killing abortion doctors...HMMMMMMMMM....I'd say that's right up there with terrorism....if you're a doctor who performs abortions....wave wink roll eyes uh oh dunno doh



Indyfella indianapolis, Indiana USA
StressFree: They are trying to subliminally embed a seed in the people's minds that Obama is linked to terrorisim and Arabs.

It works with the people who are going to vote for McCain no matter what. In fact, it distorts their reality.

Terrorist has been yelled from the crowd, and some lady called Obama an Arab. And McCain did correct her, but never said anything to the man that yelled terrorist.

They are tying to manipulate the voters into thinking that Obama is a muslim/terrorist/Arab/ America hater. They keep kicking the dead horse saying who is the real Obama? It's an attempt to build distrust in Obama and paint him as a criminal.



Distrust yes............I've not heard anyone even remotely call him a criminal. (only if he falls on his face w/the ACORN deal). But that'll probably come out after he's elected.
Hugz_n_Kissez Someplace, Ontario Canada
ttom500: It is a his judgement that is being questioned. I knew SDS at my college and some played on athletic teams with me. I knew that if they said.....hey Tom.....want to party tonight.....I knew what they meant.
If they said to me.....hey Tom....want to do the University at Madison
this weekend. I knew what they meant...and would say no.

Would I want any as a reference for a job? NO. Would I want to hang with them, 40 years later? NO Would I want any of them to kick off my
political career? NO



Well McCains judgment isn't any better calling his criminal father-in-law who has a worse history than Ayers...a role model...wink roll eyes uh oh dunno doh
StressFree small city, Kalmar Sweden
jlw45: i know....they got that sweetheart group, the taliban and that sweetheart saddam out....


But they couldn't beat Montana in 81 (the catch) or Steve Young in 94tongue rolling on the floor laughing applause 49ers!!!!!!!!!!!




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