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Sparky55 Kabul Afghanistan
Indyfella: Anyone against the Pelosi/Frank bail out...you can go to LouDobbs.com and contact your congressman.

The Congressional email system crashed due to heavy anti-bail out responses .


Apparantly the people have spoken and congress listened. Job security or lack there of will do that..laugh

It's funny how some are so quick to rush to a half baked, I conceived solution to this economic problem. It shows me they have learned nothing about rushing into things since most of the same people rushing to get this bill thru are the same ones accussing the Bush administration of rushing in to war. The only difference I see is the type a casualties we're going to suffer. I'm glad this got defeated and hope it stays that way until it can be properly thought out
Sparky55 Kabul Afghanistan
Sparky55: Apparantly the people have spoken and congress listened. Job security or lack there of will do that..

It's funny how some are so quick to rush to a half baked, I Ill conceived solution to this economic problem. It shows me they have learned nothing about rushing into things since most of the same people rushing to get this bill thru are the same ones accussing the Bush administration of rushing in to war. The only difference I see is the type a of casualties we're going to suffer. I'm glad this got defeated and hope it stays that way until it can be properly thought out


Damn typos
Hot_Single_Dude Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Indyfella: Naaaaa, Repubicans wouldn't set up the poor to fail in housing they couldn't afford....like ACORN does.

And if Republicans were going to use fraud they wouldn't be stupid enough to sign the same guy up to vote 43 times. ACORN's just a commie front organization that gets money from Dems. (govt)


So typichal Repube of you to attack community organisers who make a great job helping the poor and the less fortuned America Indyfella......... But what can I say? listening to that Mafia dude Giuliani,s way of bashing on community organisers lately leaves no doubt about the amount of ignorence these guys contain!


And now the mess George W Bush together with his gathering of the most irrisponsible administration Ever in american history have made, is Obama,s "Fault"

Oh my...... Sure it is blacks fault and it is immigrants fault and it is Obamas fault.... there have not been a stupied greedy president who to gether with men like McCain planned an illegal occupation of a country because they "thought" Arabs would just exchanging Hard Rock Cafee,s with their Oil .......so americans could easily and cheaply keep drinving on Humwee,s getting a hot one on Star box and just allowing the engine run ! Arabs they did not know what Oil is repubes "thought" ...... Repubes thought for sure that it was still around a hundred years ago when english went to the middle east and offered the regims in the area to remove that "Dirtyh Black Stuff" for free rolling on the floor laughing

Keep talking Acorn and stuff Indyfella..... the stupied Iraq war and the Stupied way of your current president,s war on terror ......made american economy destroy. Even this bad ass Osama had not been able doing this..... and now Geroge W and his guys made his Wishes becoming true .... Treason thats what this current presidnet of yours should be triled for!
Hot_Single_Dude Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
FreeHappy: OBAMA 08


Hi Free

Good to see you wine
Sparky55 Kabul Afghanistan
Hot_Single_Dude: So typichal Repube of you to attack community organisers who make a great job helping the poor and the less fortuned America Indyfella......... But what can I say? listening to that Mafia dude Giuliani,s way of bashing on community organisers lately leaves no doubt about the amount of ignorence these guys contain!And now the mess George W Bush together with his gathering of the most irrisponsible administration Ever in american history have made, is Obama,s "Fault"

Oh my...... Sure it is blacks fault and it is immigrants fault and it is Obamas fault.... there have not been a stupied greedy president who to gether with men like McCain planned an illegal occupation of a country because they "thought" Arabs would just exchanging Hard Rock Cafee,s with their Oil .......so americans could easily and cheaply keep drinving on Humwee,s getting a hot one on Star box and just allowing the engine run ! Arabs they did not know what Oil is repubes "thought" ...... Repubes thought for sure that it was still around a hundred years ago when english went to the middle east and offered the regims in the area to remove that "Dirtyh Black Stuff" for free

Keep talking Acorn and stuff Indyfella..... the stupied Iraq war and the Stupied way of your current president,s war on terror ......made american economy destroy. Even this bad ass Osama had not been able doing this..... and now Geroge W and his guys made his Wishes becoming true .... Treason thats what this current presidnet of yours should be triled for!


You're not doing anyone any favors by allowing them to borrow beyond their means. The problem is these institutions (several) are working with lending institutions, bolstered by our political leadership and giving people more money than they can afford. Additionally, they're subsidizing these bad loans with government funding. The end result is the tax payer is getting it in the shorts twice. First by subsidizing the programs to start and then again by bailing out the organizations failing because they loaned money that could not possibly be paid back and then sold those mortgages to other investment companies.

Seems to me there was a time when one bought and lived on what they could afford. I am by no means wealthy but I am smart enough to know what my financial limits are and disciplined enough to live within my means.

It's fine to offer a hand to help others but I'll be damned if I will stand around while they try to chew my arm off which is indeed the result of this latest finacial clusterF@ck. And before you say it, this is the fault of all (Dems, Reps, Voters and nonvoters). We allowed ourselves to be screwed like this and now we have to face up to and solve the problem



Indyfella indianapolis, Indiana USA
Hot_Single_Dude: So typichal Repube of you to attack community organisers who make a great job helping the poor and the less fortuned America Indyfella......... But what can I say? listening to that Mafia dude Giuliani,s way of bashing on community organisers lately leaves no doubt about the amount of ignorence these guys contain!And now the mess George W Bush together with his gathering of the most irrisponsible administration Ever in american history have made, is Obama,s "Fault"

Oh my...... Sure it is blacks fault and it is immigrants fault and it is Obamas fault.... there have not been a stupied greedy president who to gether with men like McCain planned an illegal occupation of a country because they "thought" Arabs would just exchanging Hard Rock Cafee,s with their Oil .......so americans could easily and cheaply keep drinving on Humwee,s getting a hot one on Star box and just allowing the engine run ! Arabs they did not know what Oil is repubes "thought" ...... Repubes thought for sure that it was still around a hundred years ago when english went to the middle east and offered the regims in the area to remove that "Dirtyh Black Stuff" for free

Keep talking Acorn and stuff Indyfella..... the stupied Iraq war and the Stupied way of your current president,s war on terror ......made american economy destroy. Even this bad ass Osama had not been able doing this..... and now Geroge W and his guys made his Wishes becoming true .... Treason thats what this current presidnet of yours should be triled for!



ACORN What can I say.... ? rolling on the floor laughing

Oh, good comments on CNN about voter fraud in Ohio.........<guess who> rolling on the floor laughing
Hot_Single_Dude Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Sparky55: You're not doing anyone any favors by allowing them to borrow beyond their means. The problem is these institutions (several) are working with lending institutions, bolstered by our political leadership and giving people more money than they can afford. Additionally, they're subsidizing these bad loans with government funding. The end result is the tax payer is getting it in the shorts twice. First by subsidizing the programs to start and then again by bailing out the organizations failing because they loaned money that could not possibly be paid back and then sold those mortgages to other investment companies.

Seems to me there was a time when one bought and lived on what they could afford. I am by no means wealthy but I am smart enough to know what my financial limits are and disciplined enough to live within my means.

It's fine to offer a hand to help others but I'll be damned if I will stand around while they try to chew my arm off which is indeed the result of this latest finacial clusterF@ck. And before you say it, this is the fault of all (Dems, Reps, Voters and nonvoters). We allowed ourselves to be screwed like this and now we have to face up to and solve the problem


The ones mostly responsible in this mass is the current administration in the White House and their Stupied war in Iraq and the rest of their way of fighting agaisnt terror Sparkey. Such thing would never ever happen if the current american government was not on power at all! Have you already forgot how massively the same Bushney,s encouredged americans to take a loan buying a house and making a loan on their houses and making a party out of the whole thing and told american people not to be worried at all because things will be all right and the prices will keep rising and rising?

Have you really forgot those days not so long time ago?

Placing responsibility on the main guilties in this huge mass is the first step toward better days in America .....

Before you actually have found the "Killer", you can Never expect the family of the Victum to feel eased you see?

No way these Bushney,s must ever think americans already have forgot how they were deceived to use money as crazy and how they removed one regulation after the other after George W Bush became president in 2001!

Sure now all have to work together to solve this shit but still... there is one single very important reason America stands as it stands today unfortunatily...... and that is the out come of election 2000 and 2004 and the horrible results which acted as a huge Earthquake shaked the whole planet rapidley as nothing else after ending of the second world war!

What would really be a great soloution would be like alowing these fraud companies going to Hell and not helping them form government side, and allowing the american home owners who are in deep shit because of this, not pay any morgages for a periode of a year or until the economichal tsunami of the Bushniey,s eases again.

Even if all americans received a million doller Each the solvation would be cheaper and more effective any way!



Indyfella indianapolis, Indiana USA
Hot_Single_Dude: The ones mostly responsible in this mass is the current administration in the White House and their Stupied war in Iraq and the rest of their way of fighting agaisnt terror Sparkey. Such thing would never ever happen if the current american government was not on power at all! Have you already forgot how massively the same Bushney,s encouredged americans to take a loan buying a house and making a loan on their houses and making a party out of the whole thing and told american people not to be worried at all because things will be all right and the prices will keep rising and rising?

Have you really forgot those days not so long time ago?

Placing responsibility on the main guilties in this huge mass is the first step toward better days in America .....

Before you actually have found the "Killer", you can Never expect the family of the Victum to feel eased you see?

No way these Bushney,s must ever think americans already have forgot how they were deceived to use money as crazy and how they removed one regulation after the other after George W Bush became president in 2001!

Sure now all have to work together to solve this shit but still... there is one single very important reason America stands as it stands today unfortunatily...... and that is the out come of election 2000 and 2004 and the horrible results which acted as a huge Earthquake shaked the whole planet rapidley as nothing else after ending of the second world war!

What would really be a great soloution would be like alowing these fraud companies going to Hell and not helping them form government side, and allowing the american home owners who are in deep shit because of this, not pay any morgages for a periode of a year or until the economichal tsunami of the Bushniey,s eases again.

Even if all americans received a million doller Each the solvation would be cheaper and more effective any way!


Better yet, maybe Bush will invade Denmark and steal your nastional treasures: cream filled danish.applause laugh
Hot_Single_Dude Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Indyfella: Better yet, maybe Bush will invade Denmark and steal your nastional treasures: cream filled danish.


Fortunatily George W.Bush is going to move from America soon and he will not be able invading other countries ever again. yay
Sparky55 Kabul Afghanistan
Hot_Single_Dude: The ones mostly responsible in this mass is the current administration in the White House and their Stupied war in Iraq and the rest of their way of fighting agaisnt terror Sparkey. Such thing would never ever happen if the current american government was not on power at all! Have you already forgot how massively the same Bushney,s encouredged americans to take a loan buying a house and making a loan on their houses and making a party out of the whole thing and told american people not to be worried at all because things will be all right and the prices will keep rising and rising?

Have you really forgot those days not so long time ago?

Placing responsibility on the main guilties in this huge mass is the first step toward better days in America .....

Before you actually have found the "Killer", you can Never expect the family of the Victum to feel eased you see?

No way these Bushney,s must ever think americans already have forgot how they were deceived to use money as crazy and how they removed one regulation after the other after George W Bush became president in 2001!

Sure now all have to work together to solve this shit but still... there is one single very important reason America stands as it stands today unfortunatily...... and that is the out come of election 2000 and 2004 and the horrible results which acted as a huge Earthquake shaked the whole planet rapidley as nothing else after ending of the second world war!

What would really be a great soloution would be like alowing these fraud companies going to Hell and not helping them form government side, and allowing the american home owners who are in deep shit because of this, not pay any morgages for a periode of a year or until the economichal tsunami of the Bushniey,s eases again.

Even if all americans received a million doller Each the solvation would be cheaper and more effective any way!


You can't really believe this crisis has only been building for the past 7 to 8 years. Our collective leadership (Dems & Reps) got us into this along with the crooked, self serving SOBs running these programs. if you take a good honest look you are going to find this has been building since the 70s and will more than likely be sickened to find the annointed one (Obama) is in as deep as anyone else. No fear, I know this particular scenario is impossible for you.

In any case, the American voter has clearly said hell no to this ill conceived bail out and Washington has for once listened.

On another note. As an American I am honestly grateful that you wont be working on the fix for this. You clearly don't understand the problem. A 1 million dollar payment to each American would result in a total with 15 zeros at the end of it. I don't know a lot but I do at least know that's more than the 700million the reactionists are touting now. There are other ways to handle this problem and they'll be figured out.

By the way, did you ever wonder why the Dems are so quick to push this thing through for Bush? Give that some thought when you're done cutting and pasting things.



Indyfella indianapolis, Indiana USA
Hot_Single_Dude: Fortunatily George W.Bush is going to move from America soon and he will not be able invading other countries ever again.



He's got 3 months... I'm emailing the white house now. I'm sure he'll take my recommendation.
applause I'd stay away from any of those bakeries... laugh
Hot_Single_Dude Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Sparky55: You can't really believe this crisis has only been building for the past 7 to 8 years. Our collective leadership (Dems & Reps) got us into this along with the crooked, self serving SOBs running these programs. if you take a good honest look you are going to find this has been building since the 70s and will more than likely be sickened to find the annointed one (Obama) is in as deep as anyone else. No fear, I know this particular scenario is impossible for you.

In any case, the American voter has clearly said hell no to this ill conceived bail out and Washington has for once listened.

On another note. As an American I am honestly grateful that you wont be working on the fix for this. You clearly don't understand the problem. A 1 million dollar payment to each American would result in a total with 15 zeros at the end of it. I don't know a lot but I do at least know that's more than the 700million the reactionists are touting now. There are other ways to handle this problem and they'll be figured out.

By the way, did you ever wonder why the Dems are so quick to push this thing through for Bush? Give that some thought when you're done cutting and pasting things.


I am definately not alone in this bleive Sparkey! hundreds of millions of your own countrymen are definately agree with me and beside that at least more than 2/3 of the whole planets population .... it is time for you to open your eyes and remebering what your own country looked like not too many years before.

I paste as I please Sparkey and beside I write my stuff as well when ever I wish to.........

If Democrats pushing Bush about this, it is because they know Bush has destroyed their beloved country and they are very understandibly angry about this mess every single real economs had warned about for years with out Bush or his men ever listened to them!

I am not going to paste any thing about those warnings for now..... but there are tousands of pages about that matter Sparkey. Gooooooooooooooooooooooooogle it my man !

Hot_Single_Dude Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Indyfella: He's got 3 months... I'm emailing the white house now. I'm sure he'll take my recommendation.
I'd stay away from any of those bakeries...


34 days Indy .......34 days......... after election day he is kind of "out" any way unless some thing horrible making him involved again.... I beg god that nothing out of ordinary happens any where so Bush can be allowed to Leave for good grin

Really he would be admired a lot if he just resigned now but hell no this man wont mumbling
Hot_Single_Dude Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Indyfella: He's got 3 months... I'm emailing the white house now. I'm sure he'll take my recommendation.
I'd stay away from any of those bakeries...


I actually saw your recomendation about economy in your new thread Indy.......

It looked good as a matter of fact .... I am sure it will never happen any way dunno
Sparky55 Kabul Afghanistan
Hot_Single_Dude: I am definately not alone in this bleive Sparkey! hundreds of millions of your own countrymen are definately agree with me and beside that at least more than 2/3 of the whole planets population .... it is time for you to open your eyes and remebering what your own country looked like not too many years before.

I paste as I please Sparkey and beside I write my stuff as well when ever I wish to.........

If Democrats pushing Bush about this, it is because they know Bush has destroyed their beloved country and they are very understandibly angry about this mess every single real economs had warned about for years with out Bush or his men ever listened to them!

I am not going to paste any thing about those warnings for now..... but there are tousands of pages about that matter Sparkey. Gooooooooooooooooooooooooogle it my man !


It may be more appropriate and easier to understand if you would begin your posts with "Once upon a time" laugh

Seriously, you're right. There were warnings, plenty of them and believe it or not they came from Reps and were shot down by the dems. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac specifically. But once again, you fail to see that because you don't want to see it and it doesn't fit into your Obama agenda. Never would you consider much less admit that McCain was one actually bringing this to light and figting to correct it before it got to this point.

No Dude, I think the dems are pushing this so hard because they have figured out the public isn't as dumb as they thought they were. They know that if this thing goes on too long the public will see what happened and realize the extent of the utter stupidity and partisan politics which helped this crisis to where it is now. Politics, stupidity, greed and more stupidity caused this crap dude and as much as you wish it, you can't lay the blame on the Bushneys.
ttom500 St. Cloud, Florida USA
I have a question for you Dude.

Let say you got your war crimes trial of GWB.
And you were selected to be on the jury.
What would you verdict be and your penalty?
ttom500 St. Cloud, Florida USA
Come on Dude, for over 6 months you have been calling GWB a murder. And now you cannot finish it off? Gives your judgement on
a sitting President of the United States. Make some more friends in the
Good Old USA.....tell us what he should be given.

Life? That is far to easy for a man that has killed millions
Hanging? That is what Sadam Hussien got.
Maybe death by electrocution. Use some of that new alternative
energy that you want the US to develope
Maybe drawn and quartered? Add in a little torture into for the GITMO
and Abu Grail victims that you are always talking about

What is going to be, Dude?

Come on Dude.....tell us what the President of the United States.....a man that also sent relief to Pakistan, Mynmar, the most HIV/AID treatments to Africa in history, is placing interceptor in Europe to protect your sorry ___ from Iranain missiles....what he should get from you and your Senator Obama war crime investigations?

Should he be treated like the NAZI War Criminals? That is what you have been calling him. They were hanged and given life imprisonment in Spandua. We can open up a section for him.

Come on Dude.....tell us what he should face after the term ends?

According to you, he even killed Americans in the 9/11 government plot there.

What about it, Dude...here is your chance to be judge, jury and executioner of GWB.

ttom500 St. Cloud, Florida USA
This so bogus on your part, Dude.

You cite crime after crime after crime that GWB has done.

By now surely you can judge and jury.

Firing squad? We will even let you be in it. You don't even know for sure if it is your bullet that does it. They always give one dummy
when they do a firing squad.

Come on Dude.....think of Obama here.

A war crime investigation, trail and sentence after his election.....is good for.....for another term in office. Think of the publicity....he will get.
He will be loved around the world...for being the man that tried a President and sentenced him. He will make his legacy with it.

Set a presidence that all future Preisdents can look forward to. Just like South American Juanta gov't that run kangaroo courts on their former officials...Obama can take us right there with them.

So what about it Dude?
ttom500 St. Cloud, Florida USA
Think about the good of the Country Dude. A war crime trial is just what the Doctor ordered.

Two to four years of upheaval in the country.....will go surely to the
Supreme Courts.....that will have those two appointees by Obama
sitting on it....they will surely uphold it.

Maybe be better GWB should face the Hague.....tha tis where Milosovic went.....of course he was killing his own people.....and GWB only had
a vote in Congress to conduct the war in Iraq.

But that should not matter to a smart HARvard educated Obama, He can figure out a reason to extradite.

Come on Dude....would you not like to have GWB bound and flogged at the Hague....that is what they use to do, yes? Very 17th century....like what bin Laden wants to bring into the world again.

No, dude you don't want any of this to happen to GWB. Or any other
sitting President. Because if did.....it just might happen to Obama if he gets elected. Because a presidence will have set for placing the Presdient of the United States on trial. And that Dude is why you and the far left that talk this crap........are just BS.
hollandgirl Somewhere in B.C. Canada, British Columbia Canada
How is it possible that of all the millions of people living in the US they came up with these two candidates in the end?

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