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nukes and Iran

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dominoes20
Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posted: May 14, 2006, 4:52 PM CST
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pOSTDAM WARNING??? dID NOT QUITE WORK ON jAPAN, BUT HISTORY , YEA KNOW!
I hear you guys go thru some very intensive training to get you to ummm... think the right way in these situations.

But honestly don't you feel like Americas brought a tank to a knife fight.

grin
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johndivr
Middle East, Florida USA
Posted: May 14, 2006, 4:53 PM CST
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Funny guy. I wonder. Were you aware of the war games going on on 09/11/2001.

Your leader is a mad man. I hope when the truth comes out you'll make all the right decisions.

Remember Nuremburg

devil Oh yea, did we not hang a few Nazis there??? Just following orders, thinking on a larger scale here my friend.
Iran is a terroist state, the do not need nukes, ever.
peace JR
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johndivr
Middle East, Florida USA
Posted: May 14, 2006, 4:55 PM CST
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I hear you guys go thru some very intensive training to get you to ummm... think the right way in these situations.

But honestly don't you feel like Americas brought a tank to a knife fight.

Dom,
rather have a tank in a knife fight, wanna come over here, I buy you a ticket!
No offense intended my friend!
Iraq the garden spot of the middle East!
John
yay
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dominoes20
Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:00 PM CST
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so what you work for the us goverment to know if there or aren't nucs in iran dominoes? im sure john and other troopers don't want to be there as well. and im sure john is getting sick and tired of being over there. but i can't really say how john feels now can i ? and as for his job . well bucko Uncle Sam is his boss. so what john just ca't say to Uncle Sam I Quit this job . it's not like he got drafted into the army . Maybe that is his passion to be a Marine or in the army or whatever , but like I said I can't speak for John. All we can do is support him and others. And hope to pray that he can come home to his family alive. sorry john to use u an example please forgive me. But it bites my butt when someone is a rightwinger. but i know i know we are all entitled to our own opinions wheither right or wrong. God Speed John.
ummm.... There are NO NUKES in Iran sweetie.

The argument is that they want nuclear energy so their families can live a life like the ones that we take for granted. You know like turn on a light switch and know that a light will come on. Or put food in your fridge and know it won't spoil due to power outages.

In Canada we have lots of nuclear energy without having any nuclear bombs. Also remember, the US is the only country in history to use one. angel

Also a rightwinger would be more apt to agree with Johns assessment of things. Bush is a rightwinger.

It's good to back the troops hon. But remember a fighter doesn't train so he can talk his way out of a fight. John knows one thing best and I'm glad he does. I wouldn't want a soldier to practice planting lillies when the time comes for a fight.

That said, everyone human deserves compassion and it scares me that even these things that John says in jest can affect his reasoning when dealing with people that are no different than you and I (if I maybe so bold as to group us together like that). Every human being regardless of race, creed or social standing deserves to respect.

I wonder how funny John would think it was if I joked about dropping bombs on his family.

Of course, I'm no angel, so you can rest assured I wouldn't even think about making jokes like that.

I'll leave that up to the rightwingers.

grin
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johndivr
Middle East, Florida USA
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:00 PM CST
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Are you THAT bored tonight John??

(btw, what time is it there,anyway...?)
yea and its 030 tommorow to you! jrangel
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dominoes20
Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:02 PM CST
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Dom,
rather have a tank in a knife fight, wanna come over here, I buy you a ticket!
No offense intended my friend!
Iraq the garden spot of the middle East!
John
...and I would go. Of course I'd be far more concerned of the bullets coming from behind me than the ones coming at me.

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Shadfly72
Belvidere, Illinois USA
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:03 PM CST
It's a bit of a long read but here's why we can't do it conventionally:
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article7147.htm

So we have two choices:
a) Preemptive and complete anihilation of Iran via the largest nuclear strike ever.

b) Tell Israel they are on their own and move as quickly as we can out of the Middle East.


John, a lot of US lives will be lost if Israel or the US goes after Iran. It's not time. There is no evidence of a nuclear weapons program, just enrichment to join the world of nuclear power. North Korea wants the same. It's tough to allow when their ideologies are so different from our own.

The world is changing and the technology is making it impossible to occupy a country any longer. The US was on the tip of technological advancements but we've only shown the little guys how to cripple us with minimal force. It's push button death these days and you can't occupy a country without food and supplies. That leaves wiping your enemy completely out of existence. I believe that will only create more enemies to wipe out of existence. How long before the rest of the countries with nuclear weapons decide we're the ones to exterminate?

It's time we stop fueling the instability in the Middle East (and time for us to stop helping Israel do the same).
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dominoes20
Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:05 PM CST
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It's a bit of a long read but here's why we can't do it conventionally:
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article7147.htm

So we have two choices:
a) Preemptive and complete anihilation of Iran via the largest nuclear strike ever.

b) Tell Israel they are on their own and move as quickly as we can out of the Middle East.


John, a lot of US lives will be lost if Israel or the US goes after Iran. It's not time. There is no evidence of a nuclear weapons program, just enrichment to join the world of nuclear power. North Korea wants the same. It's tough to allow when their ideologies are so different from our own.

The world is changing and the technology is making it impossible to occupy a country any longer. The US was on the tip of technological advancements but we've only shown the little guys how to cripple us with minimal force. It's push button death these days and you can't occupy a country without food and supplies. That leaves wiping your enemy completely out of existence. I believe that will only create more enemies to wipe out of existence. How long before the rest of the countries with nuclear weapons decide we're the ones to exterminate?

It's time we stop fueling the instability in the Middle East (and time for us to stop helping Israel do the same).
Well said.

...but I hope by agreeing with you I won't get you in the bad books.

grin
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nwnstar
Conway USA
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:05 PM CST
so, john...we wipe out iran...and then what? come on, man! give us the next phase? where will the world be?
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johndivr
Middle East, Florida USA
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:08 PM CST
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ummm.... There are NO NUKES in Iran sweetie.

The argument is that they want nuclear energy so their families can live a life like the ones that we take for granted. You know like turn on a light switch and know that a light will come on. Or put food in your fridge and know it won't spoil due to power outages.

In Canada we have lots of nuclear energy without having any nuclear bombs. Also remember, the US is the only country in history to use one.

Also a rightwinger would be more apt to agree with Johns assessment of things. Bush is a rightwinger.

It's good to back the troops hon. But remember a fighter doesn't train so he can talk his way out of a fight. John knows one thing best and I'm glad he does. I wouldn't want a soldier to practice planting lillies when the time comes for a fight.

That said, everyone human deserves compassion and it scares me that even these things that John says in jest can affect his reasoning when dealing with people that are no different than you and I (if I maybe so bold as to group us together like that). Every human being regardless of race, creed or social standing deserves to respect.

I wonder how funny John would think it was if I joked about dropping bombs on his family.

Of course, I'm no , so you can rest assured I wouldn't even think about making jokes like that.

I'll leave that up to the rightwingers.

Dom,
they are building u235 enruchment plants! That produces as a by prodct plutonium. Step one on the bomb.
I think for my self as a special forces operator, yea I dont back down, cant, the people I fight here are full of hate, as they are in Iran and I have beenthere,
PS thanks for the passports a while back, never to be forgotten!
jr rolling eyes D'oh!
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dominoes20
Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:09 PM CST
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so, john...we wipe out iran...and then what? come on, man! give us the next phase? where will the world be?
Then we wipe out North Korea. Hell we wipe out anywhere that's not the US of A and when we're done there we wipe out those damn northern states. And if there's anything left we shoot the missiles straight up and wait for them to down.

Yeeeeee Haaaaaaah!!!!

dancing banana

grin
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Meilandra
Eden Prairie, Minnesota USA
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:13 PM CST
*crawls in next to John for a nice long snuggle*

*makes all the other guys jealous!* sticking out tongue
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Meilandra
Eden Prairie, Minnesota USA
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:14 PM CST
(maybe a nice long snuggle... with some extracurricular activity... will pacify him a bit...)
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anglbrat
somewhere,mass USA
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:14 PM CST
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ummm.... There are NO NUKES in Iran sweetie.

The argument is that they want nuclear energy so their families can live a life like the ones that we take for granted. You know like turn on a light switch and know that a light will come on. Or put food in your fridge and know it won't spoil due to power outages.

In Canada we have lots of nuclear energy without having any nuclear bombs. Also remember, the US is the only country in history to use one.

Also a rightwinger would be more apt to agree with Johns assessment of things. Bush is a rightwinger.

It's good to back the troops hon. But remember a fighter doesn't train so he can talk his way out of a fight. John knows one thing best and I'm glad he does. I wouldn't want a soldier to practice planting lillies when the time comes for a fight.

That said, everyone human deserves compassion and it scares me that even these things that John says in jest can affect his reasoning when dealing with people that are no different than you and I (if I maybe so bold as to group us together like that). Every human being regardless of race, creed or social standing deserves to respect.

I wonder how funny John would think it was if I joked about dropping bombs on his family.

Of course, I'm no , so you can rest assured I wouldn't even think about making jokes like that.

I'll leave that up to the rightwingers.

ok forget that dom what i said about rightwinger my bad. but still how do you know that there are no nukes isn't that the job of the UN? and no i don't think it's funny to say to drop a nuke on john's family gesh . rolling eyes but what if let's say that hypo that canada has a draft and your the first one to go ? but i know that canada is a peaceful country . but let's just say that you lived in the US and they did bring back the draft ? Which will probably won't happen. You would be asking yourself should i be at war with another country? You would have a total outlook than , just like John and the rest of the troopers. i mean come on dom the shoe would be on the other foot . I'm not saying that we should be over there now . And I'm not saying Bush didn't make a mistake , but I don't understand why he wouldn't say oops my bad for putting people over there when we made a mistake at the time. Not putting down our president but we all do make mistakes and don't you think for once not to be angry at the troops for being over there doing their jobs. The arm forces did not decide ok lets go and help Iraq's people to take back their homes or get Sadduem . but the feeling im getting from you , you think it's John's fault and every soilder's fault for being there . I may be mistaking .
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dominoes20
Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:17 PM CST
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Dom,
they are building u235 enruchment plants! That produces as a by prodct plutonium. Step one on the bomb.
I think for my self as a special forces operator, yea I dont back down, cant, the people I fight here are full of hate, as they are in Iran and I have beenthere,
PS thanks for the passports a while back, never to be forgotten!
jr
John get your facts straight buddy. We've since learned that the terrorists didn't come thru canada. We also know that Mossad has used Canadian passports for years. They have some of the greatest forgers in the world.

I understand you buddy. All that training and no superbowl. dancing banana Just remember the Constitution that your glorious leader is trying to rewrite.

Homeland Security? Gestapo!

You must know history John.

What was the catastrophe that allowed Hitler to take away the German peoples rights so he could protect the Homeland errr... Fatherland from "terrorists".

Who did we find out was really behind this catastrophe.

Believe me buddy I have nothing against you or the American Army. And as I've said before the US is the greatest country in the world even with its many faults. (As all great nations have). But the Bush family scare the gell out of me because for them it is strictly about profits.

Again, who was head of security at the world trade centre complex on 9/11. That's right Bush's brother. I believe that's Michael. His contract was to end that day.

How many buildings came down that day John?

Don't be afraid of the truth.

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dominoes20
Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:20 PM CST
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ok forget that dom what i said about rightwinger my bad. but still how do you know that there are no nukes isn't that the job of the UN? and no i don't think it's funny to say to drop a nuke on john's family gesh . but what if let's say that hypo that canada has a draft and your the first one to go ? but i know that canada is a peaceful country . but let's just say that you lived in the US and they did bring back the draft ? Which will probably won't happen. You would be asking yourself should i be at war with another country? You would have a total outlook than , just like John and the rest of the troopers. i mean come on dom the shoe would be on the other foot . I'm not saying that we should be over there now . And I'm not saying Bush didn't make a mistake , but I don't understand why he wouldn't say oops my bad for putting people over there when we made a mistake at the time. Not putting down our president but we all do make mistakes and don't you think for once not to be angry at the troops for being over there doing their jobs. The arm forces did not decide ok lets go and help Iraq's people to take back their homes or get Sadduem . but the feeling im getting from you , you think it's John's fault and every soilder's fault for being there . I may be mistaking .
I'm not mad at the troops. I think what happened during Vietnam was a disgrace. The army has a job to do. Sometimes they scare the hell out of me but I agree with you if I had to go over there I would change my thinking real quick if I wanted to stay alive.

I do hope John that you realize I have nothing against you or any soldier over there. But Bush didn't make a mistake. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's not just a good ole boy. He's a good ole Capitalist who getting rich from the blood of his own and others.

frustrated
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anglbrat
somewhere,mass USA
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:23 PM CST
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John get your facts straight buddy. We've since learned that the terrorists didn't come thru canada. We also know that Mossad has used Canadian passports for years. They have some of the greatest forgers in the world.

I understand you buddy. All that training and no superbowl. Just remember the Constitution that your glorious leader is trying to rewrite.

Homeland Security? Gestapo!

You must know history John.

What was the catastrophe that allowed Hitler to take away the German peoples rights so he could protect the Homeland errr... Fatherland from "terrorists".

Who did we find out was really behind this catastrophe.

Believe me buddy I have nothing against you or the American Army. And as I've said before the US is the greatest country in the world even with its many faults. (As all great nations have). But the Bush family scare the gell out of me because for them it is strictly about profits.

Again, who was head of security at the world trade centre complex on 9/11. That's right Bush's brother. I believe that's Michael. His contract was to end that day.

How many buildings came down that day John?

Don't be afraid of the truth.

dom bushes brother was not head of security of the trade buildings so get your facts straight , i seen the special on security on the twin towers. bull about Bushes being head of security. There was a gentleman head of security and before the first bombing of the trade center , he and others went into the basement of the twin towers and told them they needed to beef up security in the late 80's and that man had a plan to get people out if something should of gone wrong again. and that man also risked his life going back up those stairs to get people out . so if you have the discovery channel you really should of watch those specials on 9/11. The man who was head of security also did models on his computer to show to others what would happen to the twin towers. But you know what noone high enough in the chain took his warning. so buddy get your facts straight on that .
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tunzrok
Windsor, Ontario Canada
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:24 PM CST
It's all about money barfing
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johndivr
Middle East, Florida USA
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:25 PM CST
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John get your facts straight buddy. We've since learned that the terrorists didn't come thru canada. We also know that Mossad has used Canadian passports for years. They have some of the greatest forgers in the world.

I understand you buddy. All that training and no superbowl. Just remember the Constitution that your glorious leader is trying to rewrite.

Homeland Security? Gestapo!

You must know history John.

What was the catastrophe that allowed Hitler to take away the German peoples rights so he could protect the Homeland errr... Fatherland from "terrorists".

Who did we find out was really behind this catastrophe.

Believe me buddy I have nothing against you or the American Army. And as I've said before the US is the greatest country in the world even with its many faults. (As all great nations have). But the Bush family scare the gell out of me because for them it is strictly about profits.

Again, who was head of security at the world trade centre complex on 9/11. That's right Bush's brother. I believe that's Michael. His contract was to end that day.

How many buildings came down that day John?

Don't be afraid of the truth.

My Friend,
I am not endorsing the total wipe out of Iran, just thier nuke plants!
Iran is our enemy, almost alwaways has been since the Shah fell.
I do know history, I saw the twin towers fall and the pentegon, and thos brave ones ones one the flight they forced down.
The twin towers was a conglomerate of owners, all innocent.

JR
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anglbrat
somewhere,mass USA
Posted: May 14, 2006, 5:27 PM CST
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My Friend,
I am not endorsing the total wipe out of Iran, just thier nuke plants!
Iran is our enemy, almost alwaways has been since the Shah fell.
I do know history, I saw the twin towers fall and the pentegon, and thos brave ones ones one the flight they forced down.
The twin towers was a conglomerate of owners, all innocent.

JR
exactly john they were innocent. it's not like we held up a big ole sign dom and say COME AND GET US !
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