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nukes and Iran




TheProfessor
Pandoras Box, Michigan USA
Posted: May 14, 2006, 11:26 PM CST
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What ever happened to sovereignty? When did the US get to decide who gets to play with their own toys? Has Iran or N. Korea invaded any body recently? Have they persecuted another country or started killing someone other than their own people?

The Rules:
Killing your own people, fine. Killing your neighbors, prepare to be invaded, blown up, or have your chicken coup flattened by a food drop.

Pol Pot's regime killed between 1.5 to 2.3 million people (out of a country of 8 million) between 1975-1979 - sentenced to lifelong house arrest (not by the US though.)

Stalin - the number of deaths that occurred from unnnatural causes under Stalin is in the millions. We didn't step in.

Africa - killing their own people... we only stopped by briefly to help hand out food.

Hitler - Invaded Poland (and a few other neighbors); oops, had to be put in a ditch and lit on fire.

Saddam - Invaded Kuwait; oops again, found in a ditch but the price of gasoline had risen so death by fire was too costly.

Milosevich - Mass killing in Kosovo. (Technically, they started... but there was a whole lot of side switching going on, I lost track of it all around Act III.) Arrested & tried for War Crimes. Died in jail with only 52 hours of testimony left to hear; What ever happened to due process?




See it's simple; just don't bother your neighbors when you go about murdering people.
Not yet, but Iran has already threatened to make Israel glow in the dark and they're working on implementation now. North Korea is doing test firings of ICBM-like devices, and we know they have the nuke warhead. They wouldn't just be doing tests if they didn't feel it'd be useful at some point in the future.. short or long-term.

I'm not saying that it'll be immediate, I just feel those are two that can't be overlooked and that we need to keep a very close eye on... multiple nukes screaming through the sky to various targets 1000's of miles away wouldn't be anyone's idea of a fun time.
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fireliter
Allen Park, Michigan USA
Posted: May 15, 2006, 11:09 AM CST
pretty soon everyone in the alley fight of world diplomacy will have a bat.

I have not ventured any real thought on this, was asked and was dumbfounded by it.." What if everyone had the "NUKE" technology to hit any other country....who would then be the real super power of the world then??

Lets hand those suckers out like they are cigars and we just had twins....hey you there who only sent a letter saying you was part of the invasion force to overthrow Hussein , "here have a medium range nuke warhead and all the trimming," and you who let us fill up of fueltanks in your land have a couple of these bad boys too, our way of saying thanks for the support...
I mean to say if it was possibl, that guy in chinese tenenemn square was alive I would say "here, we feel your pain " . any country that has an editorail praising our government, give them a couple Nukes and say "no strings just thanks for support our troops...just don't shoot your eye out or shoot your foot off

Like wow did those words come from me????

Saw a bumper sticker today "Kill them all.. let God sort them out"

saw a 6 or 8 yr.old boy get hit by car today...the driver blamed the kid. 25 minutes without an ambulance. yeah lets save a region who have been fighting since the beginning of recoreded history, while a chld dies in the street because the funds for community services where cut....

Saw a bumper sticker today "Kill them all.. let God sort them out"



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dominoes20
Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posted: May 15, 2006, 11:37 AM CST
Quick 2 cents. I have to work today moping

Who wasn't terrified of the USSR having nukes? Who did they use them on? Were they any less scary then the boogie men now.

What about China? Were we all thinking that China getting nukes would be a good thing?

Pakistan? Talk about unstable! India???

The only nation to ever USE nukes is the USA. No other country would do it because they know what the retaliation would be. It would be absolute devastation.

I mean let's put on our thinking caps for a moment. Iran in the next 5-10 years actually create nukes. (Yep that would be the earliest time frame.) Then they decide to do what? Nuke Israel. If they spit on Israel, Israel will wipe them out.

Nuke the US. Korea has nukes and still don't have missiles that can hit DC.

In fact if they ever did I think the US would use it as an excuse to nuke half the planet. (The non-christian half).

Remember. Bush outlined his plans a few years ago. He called it the Axis of evil. Now he is systematically going about it. First Iraq. Then Iran. Finally North Korea.

He maybe president but he is human. His wants and needs are based on that. Absolute power....

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anglbrat
somewhere,mass, Massachusetts USA
Posted: May 15, 2006, 11:39 AM CST
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Quick 2 cents. I have to work today

Who wasn't terrified of the USSR having nukes? Who did they use them on? Were they any less scary then the boogie men now.

What about China? Were we all thinking that China getting nukes would be a good thing?

Pakistan? Talk about unstable! India???

The only nation to ever USE nukes is the USA. No other country would do it because they know what the retaliation would be. It would be absolute devastation.

I mean let's put on our thinking caps for a moment. Iran in the next 5-10 years actually create nukes. (Yep that would be the earliest time frame.) Then they decide to do what? Nuke Israel. If they spit on Israel, Israel will wipe them out.

Nuke the US. Korea has nukes and still don't have missiles that can hit DC.

In fact if they ever did I think the US would use it as an excuse to nuke half the planet. (The non-christian half).

Remember. Bush outlined his plans a few years ago. He called it the Axis of evil. Now he is systematically going about it. First Iraq. Then Iran. Finally North Korea.

He maybe president but he is human. His wants and needs are based on that. Absolute power....

no offense are we on this subject again today? Hey I'm going to be nice today so I'm staying out of this one don't want people get upset at me today uthuh no wayyyyyyy . Love to all . kiss angel
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dominoes20
Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posted: May 15, 2006, 11:40 AM CST
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pretty soon everyone in the alley fight of world diplomacy will have a bat.

I have not ventured any real thought on this, was asked and was dumbfounded by it.." What if everyone had the "NUKE" technology to hit any other country....who would then be the real super power of the world then??

Lets hand those suckers out like they are cigars and we just had twins....hey you there who only sent a letter saying you was part of the invasion force to overthrow Hussein , "here have a medium range nuke warhead and all the trimming," and you who let us fill up of fueltanks in your land have a couple of these bad boys too, our way of saying thanks for the support...
I mean to say if it was possibl, that guy in chinese tenenemn square was alive I would say "here, we feel your pain " . any country that has an editorail praising our government, give them a couple Nukes and say "no strings just thanks for support our troops...just don't shoot your eye out or shoot your foot off

Like wow did those words come from me????

Saw a bumper sticker today "Kill them all.. let God sort them out"

saw a 6 or 8 yr.old boy get hit by car today...the driver blamed the kid. 25 minutes without an ambulance. yeah lets save a region who have been fighting since the beginning of recoreded history, while a chld dies in the street because the funds for community services where cut....

Saw a bumper sticker today "Kill them all.. let God sort them out"



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Was there a Southern flag in the back window frustrated

Just kidding.

grin
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anglbrat
somewhere,mass, Massachusetts USA
Posted: May 15, 2006, 11:42 AM CST
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Was there a Southern flag in the back window

Just kidding.

maybe rolling on the floor laughing wink ill never tell rolling on the floor laughing hug angel
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xfahctor
lancaster, New Hampshire USA
Posted: May 15, 2006, 11:42 AM CST
jesus f'n h christ im just gonna roll my eyes and walk right back out
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dominoes20
Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posted: May 15, 2006, 11:43 AM CST
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jesus f'n h christ im just gonna roll my eyes and walk right back out
Don't use the lords name in vain!

grin
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anglbrat
somewhere,mass, Massachusetts USA
Posted: May 15, 2006, 11:45 AM CST
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no offense are we on this subject again today? Hey I'm going to be nice today so I'm staying out of this one don't want people get upset at me today uthuh no wayyyyyyy . Love to all .
i was just teasing i don't have a flag in back of my window gesh lol. laugh hug
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Snowwolf
Linton, Indiana USA
Posted: May 15, 2006, 11:48 AM CST
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jesus f'n h christ im just gonna roll my eyes and walk right back out
Grabs the door before it's slammed to vacate and not come back as well


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izzyva
Highland Springs, Virginia USA
Posted: May 15, 2006, 11:48 AM CST
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Quick 2 cents. I have to work today

Who wasn't terrified of the USSR having nukes? Who did they use them on? Were they any less scary then the boogie men now.

What about China? Were we all thinking that China getting nukes would be a good thing?

Pakistan? Talk about unstable! India???

The only nation to ever USE nukes is the USA. No other country would do it because they know what the retaliation would be. It would be absolute devastation.

I mean let's put on our thinking caps for a moment. Iran in the next 5-10 years actually create nukes. (Yep that would be the earliest time frame.) Then they decide to do what? Nuke Israel. If they spit on Israel, Israel will wipe them out.

Nuke the US. Korea has nukes and still don't have missiles that can hit DC.

In fact if they ever did I think the US would use it as an excuse to nuke half the planet. (The non-christian half).

Remember. Bush outlined his plans a few years ago. He called it the Axis of evil. Now he is systematically going about it. First Iraq. Then Iran. Finally North Korea.

He maybe president but he is human. His wants and needs are based on that. Absolute power....

Good Point, It will take years for them to have what they need to created them, They have talk about Israel, but who in middle east doesn't, they know how to take care of themselves, USA will sit down and watch the hole situation and do nothing about it, You know why because the whole world is watching us, Let europe take care of this one. We don't want the whole world piss at us, The ones that still with us. Oh, Oh and we're nice we can erased them if we want ask Japan. Don't get offende i just was a little sarcastic, but call japan and ask them.



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Shadfly72
Belvidere, Illinois USA
Posted: May 16, 2006, 4:45 PM CST
Not to start this up again but...

"Key European nations are considering offering Iran a light-water nuclear reactor as part of incentives meant to persuade Tehran to give up its uranium enrichment program, a senior diplomat said Tuesday.

But a U.S. official said Washington would likely oppose the plan.

A senior diplomat familiar with international attempts to dissuade Iran from enrichment said the tentative plans still were being discussed among France, Britain and Germany as part of a possible package to be presented Friday to senior representatives of the five permanent U.N. Security Council members. "


Give them what they are asking for so we don't have to worry about them doing something other than what we want them to do in pursuit of their dream... (if that makes sense.)



On the flip side...


"Venezuela is considering selling its fleet of U.S.-made F-16 fighter jets to another country, perhaps Iran, in response to a U.S. ban on arms sales to President Hugo Chavez's government, a military official said Tuesday.

Gen. Alberto Muller, a senior adviser to Chavez, told The Associated Press he had recommended to the defense minister that Venezuela consider selling the 21 jets to another country.



Muller said he thought it was worthwhile to consider "the feasibility of a negotiation with Iran for the sale of those planes."

Even before the U.S. announced the ban on arms sales Monday, Washington had stopped selling Venezuela sensitive upgrades for the F- 16s.

Chavez has previously warned he could share the U.S. jets with Cuba if Washington does not supply parts for the planes. He also has said he may look into buying fighter jets from Russia or China instead."


(Sorry to those that were planning on a retirement village in Venezuela. It might not be the best time to approach them about buying property.)
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smiylley17
monticello, New York USA
Posted: May 16, 2006, 4:51 PM CST
go john! i love people who arent over think they know exactly whats goin too... xfahctor i agree with u man
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