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CrosstownTraffic: You must be the hate to see other people hating each other party.
Shall we fight about it for the next 10 pages...........or maybe just have a beer?

shipoker58: Calling me a hater, then offering a beer is not what I call good relations!!

My post was simply to say let's all get along!....then you satrted right in with the name calling.

mike69spain: This is a rhetoric post.

Anyone remember a groups we call neo-nazists?

They sometimes claim to be Christian (and sometimes they believe in our old gods).

Their signs are not very friendly when they are demonstrating, are they? They are our neighbours, colleagues and family. All of them (I have got at least three cousins who are openly members).

They have their own political parties and they reach high numbers in polls and elections.

These people are pro castration of other faiths and races, pro ethnic cleansing and pro a lot of other things. Many of them also deny that Second World War existed or at least did not have a lunatic causing the havoc in the first place.

They look like me, they sing the same Christmas songs as me, they have the same grandpa as me, but I still do not relate me with their cause.

Following the alternative logic displayed often here, I AM one of them. I have no choice.

Am I?

CrosstownTraffic: Well I am sorry you missed the irony that I meant. To say "I hate to see other people hating each other" is very different from saying "I hate that person for hating that other person".

Hate bores me to tears, so no I didn't call you "a hater", do excuse the fact we have missed each other in translation.

Dusty45: I knew what you meant. 'sok

lusciousmile: He meant that you are the kind of person who doesn't want to see others hate each other, Ship i.e 'hate to see other people fighting, person '. He then offered you a beer. Read his post again, you got him wrong.He was supporting what you said and being friendly.

Dusty45: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5FfJ89rGPc

RISK IT!!

kidatheart: When any religious group attempts to control or take over a government, it's dangerous for all others who don't believe the way they do. That's what the religious right in America is doing, and it should be fought against. Religion and politics should not mix.

Practice whatever religion you want at home, in church/mosque or any other assembly and in your heart, but it should never be madated as a way to rule an entire nation. That's oppression, and exactly what's happened in Iran after 1979 as well as other nations around the globe throughout history.
What difference is it if it's Islam, Judiaism or Christianity?

jbibiza: Well I had a moment of revelation this morning... Which I will get to in a moment...

First off this was a very messy thread last night... that´s probably putting it mildly, and I was accused of a lot of things... of having a superior attitude of being insecure, of attacking people.

!. Feeling superior... I certainly hope that I have never portrayed that I thought I was better then anyone. While I have shared and taken pride in my achievements I have also been quick to share my moments of stupidity to the chuckles of quite a few of you and have no problem laughing at myself.

2. Being insecure... Well it´s just hard for me to reconcile the idea that I could "feel superior" to everyone and be insecure at the same time.... but I will admit that there are times I face insecurities... in reality I am quite a shy person and have battled that most of my life.

3. Attacking People... I can honestly say that I try to argue the post and not the person... but admit there have been occasions when something was said that really disgusted me... ideas of racism, extreme disrespect towards women that I probably did make a comment that was more personal then issue related, but I can honestly think of only 3 occasions where this has happened.

...and now I come to my moment of revelation...

To say that I was shocked at the personal attack on me last night doesn´t begin to say how I felt, and to be honest I really couldn´t understand it... this came from someone I didn´t know, that I didn´t think I had ever had any kind of contact with... but on reading the exchange between him and Sparky I realized that this was the man who posted the windup thread that was extremely disrespectful in attitude to both women and soldiers and yes I did say some pretty nasty things... but if you post a thread with the explicit purpose of pissing people off then I think you should be prepared for what ever responses you get... and they do say that humour often has a lot of truth to it.

On hind sight am I proud of the comments I made on that thread? No, I allowed someone to bring out the worst in me. Now that I realize the attack was made in response to what I posted on that thread and not a response to what was just a simple comment about not all Muslims being extremists it does make a bit more sense to me... but I still don´t see it as justified

If this person had something to say regarding my post on his windup thread then it should have been dealt with there... to lay in wait with the express purpose of attacking me on another thread I find to be cowardly at best, but if it made him feel better for having done it... then so be it. Thank you Luscious and Irishlass for the words of support and thank you to those who wrote to me with good advice and the hugs I needed... very much appreciated.

The one good thing that came of all this is that I do realize I have become far to serious and intense and I do miss some of the really good times I´ve had on CS that were filled with laughter and flirtation and so I will attempt to avoid "issues" and work on finding some good sexy funny things to start threads with.

Hope you are all having a good day and I wish you all the best.

Jacquie

Baddabing66: Dusty 45, nothing wrong that Moslem are putting a Mosque in Atlanta. I heard this before. Wasnt back in the 1960s when whites were afraid that balcks were getting their Civil Rights. Lady, you sound like that too. There are Christians who have killed in the name of god too. Look at the KKK, The Aryan Nations, The Christian Identity movents there are just evil as Alkaeda.

bodleing: Kid, I agree with you wholeheartedly, but I was just
pointing out, that as far as I can see..
Muslims, albeit a small proportion of them, are the only
group who claim, that their religion calls for them to kill all
who are not a follower of their faith.

Dusty45: Ehhh....

??????

cherokeemoon2: Well I see this is still going, competely out of context, most of the time.I hope that some of u had fun beating me and each other up in some cases .Its anything BUT FUNNY.And it was anything But SMART on some of ur parts.I neither LIE ,NOR BACK PEDAL.In case most of u dont know this. The terrorist use these sites and CIA watches this sites also.I imagine u made the terrorists very happy on this thread.Please NOTICE I SAID TERRORIST, not all MUSLIMS.I guess when I admitted that I didnt know this was 2 yrs old and said I was wrong was taken as lying and backpedaling.Superiority makes me ill.NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE IS BETTER THAN ANOTHER.It would help if the whole thread was read before replying to it RAS.So GO ON CHILDREN AND FIGHT.U can not make me mad nor run me off,so do ur self a favor and stop trying. I now remember about the cartoon, but never saw these pics.

cherokeemoon2: Well I see this is still going, competely out of context, most of the time.I hope that some of u had fun beating me and each other up in some cases .Its anything BUT FUNNY.And it was anything But SMART on some of ur parts.I neither LIE ,NOR BACK PEDAL.In case most of u dont know this. The terrorist use these sites and CIA watches this sites also.I imagine u made the terrorists very happy on this thread.Please NOTICE I SAID TERRORIST, not all MUSLIMS.I guess when I admitted that I didnt know this was 2 yrs old and said I was wrong was taken as lying and backpedaling.Superiority makes me ill.NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE IS BETTER THAN ANOTHER.It would help if the whole thread was read before replying to it RAS.So GO ON CHILDREN AND FIGHT.U can not make me mad nor run me off,so do ur self a favor and stop trying. I now remember about the cartoon, but never saw these pics.

mbcasey: Good sexy things to start threads with?

Just post your picture JB and you will succeed!!

jbibiza: Flattery will get you everywhere....

gingerb: Christians have done that too throught the ages. That's what the crusades were about, Spanish inquisition, Witch burnings in the dark ages, KKK and other sects of Christianity, Missionaries in south America and Africa, all of these extremist Christian values, and all of them killing in the name of Christianity. Communists in the East killed Christians, Christians killed muslims, Christians killed Jews, different brances of Christianity killed each other, all in the name of their faith........You can't just single out Muslims and lump them all together, since all Muslims don't believe the same things anyway. To most of them it is a religion of peace and they lead peaceful lives according to their faith, Islam.


What short memories people have when they have an agenda.....

CrosstownTraffic: Thank you, that is very kind of you to point that out